ANHC vs OPTRA vs SCORPIO vs SAFARI vs VENTO

vampire · 7th November 2010, 18:21

Hi everybody
Its been a long time since I last posted. Had gone off for a sail. Was BYTE-starved as well as BHP-starved. Hope all of you have been doing great.
Pretty much from the title of this post you have understood my dilemma which is of course self imposed. The price on-road CAL is somewhat as follows

ANHC : 9.1

OPTRA : 8.1

SCORPIO : 9.6 (SLE - BS IV)

SAFARI : 8.5

VENTO : 7.8

I am well aware of the fact that they belong to different classes but more or less in the same price range. I would like a few sugggestions regarding "what car"?
Everybody would ask back saying what would the car be used for? Well the answer is that yes both city driving and a few getaways hence the large cars that i have opted for. I am apprehensive about the fact regarding how the sedans would perform in a long drive or a little hilly areas especially innorth east or the ladakh region etc.
Expect a lot feedback as always from you petroheads!!!!!

breezydrive · 7th November 2010, 18:55

For a moment, one can think of Vento being driven to Ladakh but ANHC!
People here have posted about the Belly scraping of ANHC over speed breakers, so forget about Ladakh in an ANHC or even in an OPTRA. But VENTO is short on space and in 7.8, you'll get a bare-bone version.

Finally, you are left with the same old question Scorpio Vs Safari!

Cartman · 7th November 2010, 18:56

Personally, if given a choice, I'd pick the Honda without a second guess. The sheer feel of it is brilliant! Honda is reliable and lemons are quite rare.

The Vento Highline, I think fits into the 9.xx bracket as well. Take a look at that.

You can safely rule the Optra out. I feel it is dated and needs to be redone.

The Safari vs The Scorpio. This debate will never end. This something I heard in the meet

"A Safari is never a mind-buy. It is always a heart-buy."

About the vehicle doing trips to Ladakh, all of them can easily do it. On paper that is. The big cars take the cake here.

Cheers!

Cartman.

kadanaJ · 7th November 2010, 20:27

A large car that can tackle poor roads and go to ladakh.
You may have to ditch the sedans, depending on how much luggage room you need for those getaways.
Try considering a used Innova as well, better stability and reliability than the Scorpio and Safari, although some people do feel it has a bit of a Taxi/Tourist Car image.

If you feel a sedan will have adequate room, also look at the SX4, after all it's supposed to have best-in-class Ground Clearance.

Ricky_63 · 7th November 2010, 21:24

If serious about Ladakh..the only option you have is the Scorpio. Period. City drives Vento deisel. Though the Scorpio would be nice as well

Quite a scattered portfolio IMHO

Cheers

sachinj12 · 7th November 2010, 21:49

If you are serious about Ladakh, you are better of with a SUV, forget about the Sedans. Between the ANHC,Optra and Vento, its a tough call. If I were you, I would drop the Optra (reluctantly though) because its reached its cycle end. And between the ANHC and Vento, Diesel= Vento, petrol=ANHC.

Rudra Sen · 7th November 2010, 21:57

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Originally Posted by Cartman

You can safely rule the Optra out. I feel it is dated and needs to be redone.

May I know what exactly do you mean here? What kind of redoing are you talking about?

SS-Traveller · 7th November 2010, 22:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by vampire

...both city driving and a few getaways...
...how the sedans would perform in a long drive or a little hilly areas especially innorth east or the ladakh region etc.

I am sure driving & parking a Scorpio/Safari on a daily basis in Calcutta would be quite a handful, and quite frustrating. OTOH, you want a car that can take rough roads without bottoming out. Have you considered an SX4? Or, in extremis, a pre-owned Grand Vitara? Both have smaller footprints, are easier to handle and park inside a congested city, and can take on the mountains quite easily. Incidentally, the SX4 HAS been to Ladakh.

Cartman · 7th November 2010, 22:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudra Sen

May I know what exactly do you mean here? What kind of redoing are you talking about?

Sir, I was referring to the looks. Though I love it, it seems dated. I think the car needs a refresh. A complete new-look. No?

Rudra Sen · 7th November 2010, 22:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cartman

it seems dated.

To you that means.. Which is fine because looks are always subjective. I got your point though.

Cartman · 7th November 2010, 22:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudra Sen

To you that means.. Which is fine because looks are always subjective. I got your point though.

Thank you, Sir.

Glad it conveyed the message I wanted it to, and didn't spark an argument.

OT: I love the old Optra. The new face looks bad and I hate that one! Just to be clearer!

vnabhi · 7th November 2010, 22:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS-Traveller

I am sure driving & parking a Scorpio/Safari on a daily basis in Calcutta would be quite a handful, and quite frustrating. OTOH, you want a car that can take rough roads without bottoming out. Have you considered an SX4? Or, in extremis, a pre-owned Grand Vitara? Both have smaller footprints, are easier to handle and park inside a congested city, and can take on the mountains quite easily. Incidentally, the SX4 HAS been to Ladakh.

I'd also suggest a pre-owned Fusion. It beats the SX4 on GC and one can get it cheaper in the second hand market than Jap cars.

vampire · 7th November 2010, 23:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS-Traveller

I am sure driving & parking a Scorpio/Safari on a daily basis in Calcutta would be quite a handful, and quite frustrating.

Traveller you have a very great point here. Driving on cal roads can be a real pain.
So the war comes down between the anhc and the vento tdi. styling of which seems better to you guys?
safari does have a stately feeling towards it and so does scorpio.
As far as buying second hand cars are concerned they are really a bad deal in calcutta. the dealers screw up with teh mileage and swap parts. its best not to enter such a deal unless one is really sure of teh source!!

SS-Traveller · 8th November 2010, 09:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by vampire

...between the anhc and the vento tdi. styling of which seems better to you guys?

The savings you'll make by running a diesel Vento will be offset by the higher service and maintenance costs vis-a-vis the ANHC. Both are good only for smooth roads, not to explore the NE or Ladakh. Styling is a personal choice, and is best left to the person actually owning and driving the car. For that matter, don't you like the SX4's styling?

Quote:

Originally Posted by vnabhi

I'd also suggest a pre-owned Fusion.

The Fusion is out of production now, therefore not worth buying for heavy / long-distance travel usage. There are too few of these in the market anyway.

raj_5004 · 8th November 2010, 10:05

Since you are planning to make trips to ladakh, i would say prefer the SUVs. My choice would be the scorpio as i feel the mHawk engine is better than the Dicor in terms of driving pleasure & refinement & the scorpio is more reliable than the safari. though if space & comfort matters more to you & you are ready to live with a few niggles, have a look at the safari.

7th November 2010, 18:21	#1
vampire BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: "Calcutta" Posts: 63 Thanked: 11 Times	ANHC vs OPTRA vs SCORPIO vs SAFARI vs VENTO Hi everybody Its been a long time since I last posted. Had gone off for a sail. Was BYTE-starved as well as BHP-starved. Hope all of you have been doing great. Pretty much from the title of this post you have understood my dilemma which is of course self imposed. The price on-road CAL is somewhat as follows ANHC : 9.1 OPTRA : 8.1 SCORPIO : 9.6 (SLE - BS IV) SAFARI : 8.5 VENTO : 7.8 I am well aware of the fact that they belong to different classes but more or less in the same price range. I would like a few sugggestions regarding "what car"? Everybody would ask back saying what would the car be used for? Well the answer is that yes both city driving and a few getaways hence the large cars that i have opted for. I am apprehensive about the fact regarding how the sedans would perform in a long drive or a little hilly areas especially innorth east or the ladakh region etc. Expect a lot feedback as always from you petroheads!!!!!
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7th November 2010, 18:55	#2
breezydrive BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NOIDA Posts: 750 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	For a moment, one can think of Vento being driven to Ladakh but ANHC! People here have posted about the Belly scraping of ANHC over speed breakers, so forget about Ladakh in an ANHC or even in an OPTRA. But VENTO is short on space and in 7.8, you'll get a bare-bone version. Finally, you are left with the same old question Scorpio Vs Safari!
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7th November 2010, 18:56	#3
Cartman BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 411 Thanked: 244 Times	Personally, if given a choice, I'd pick the Honda without a second guess. The sheer feel of it is brilliant! Honda is reliable and lemons are quite rare. The Vento Highline, I think fits into the 9.xx bracket as well. Take a look at that. You can safely rule the Optra out. I feel it is dated and needs to be redone. The Safari vs The Scorpio. This debate will never end. This something I heard in the meet "A Safari is never a mind-buy. It is always a heart-buy." About the vehicle doing trips to Ladakh, all of them can easily do it. On paper that is. The big cars take the cake here. Cheers! Cartman.
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7th November 2010, 20:27	#4
kadanaJ BHPian Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Mumbai Posts: 585 Thanked: 958 Times	A large car that can tackle poor roads and go to ladakh. You may have to ditch the sedans, depending on how much luggage room you need for those getaways. Try considering a used Innova as well, better stability and reliability than the Scorpio and Safari, although some people do feel it has a bit of a Taxi/Tourist Car image. If you feel a sedan will have adequate room, also look at the SX4, after all it's supposed to have best-in-class Ground Clearance. Last edited by kadanaJ : 7th November 2010 at 20:28.
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7th November 2010, 21:24	#5
Ricky_63 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 3,885 Thanked: 518 Times View My Garage	If serious about Ladakh..the only option you have is the Scorpio. Period. City drives Vento deisel. Though the Scorpio would be nice as well Quite a scattered portfolio IMHO Cheers
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7th November 2010, 21:49	#6
sachinj12 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,187 Thanked: 168 Times	If you are serious about Ladakh, you are better of with a SUV, forget about the Sedans. Between the ANHC,Optra and Vento, its a tough call. If I were you, I would drop the Optra (reluctantly though) because its reached its cycle end. And between the ANHC and Vento, Diesel= Vento, petrol=ANHC.
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8th November 2010, 10:05	#15
raj_5004 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubai/Mumbai Posts: 5,238 Thanked: 3,138 Times	Since you are planning to make trips to ladakh, i would say prefer the SUVs. My choice would be the scorpio as i feel the mHawk engine is better than the Dicor in terms of driving pleasure & refinement & the scorpio is more reliable than the safari. though if space & comfort matters more to you & you are ready to live with a few niggles, have a look at the safari.
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