29th October 2007, 01:57
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29th October 2007, 02:47
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29th October 2007, 07:50
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Congratulations on your new ICE purchases! Both Hertz & Audison have several happy customers on this forum, and having heard the LRX amps myself, I can say that they sound pretty good... I'm just a newbie, but feel that you might want to check the following with the ICE gurus - 1. ESK163 is a 3-way speaker i.e. has 3 separate components to reproduce the audio frequency spectrum (midbass, midrange, tweeter). However, it has been established on this thread that the Laura Elegance accepts 2 way speakers in the stock locations for both front & rear doors, hence you may want to seek the gurus' advice on (a) how to mount the midrange separately, if possible or (b) whether you should consider replacing the ESK163 with 2-ways. (c) any other option 2. Suggest you check with Gunbir/JB if the LRX 6.9 accepts speaker level inputs. if it doesnt, you might need (a) a HU upgrade to one with 3 pre-outs or (b) an adapter module to convert hi-level to low level inputs, if available Again, request you to kindly check which solution would be better for your needs/budget. A HU upgrade may be a good idea anyway... 3. hertz sub: was checking the Hertz site and couldnt find the HK300D. However, the HX300D has 2 voice coils of 4ohm resistance each (Gunbir/JB - please correct me if I'm wrong, thanks), you might want to check with the gurus on how this would need to be connected to your LRX 6.9 and whether another sub configuration would be more suitable for your amp, size of car and listening tastes. Hope this is of help & keep enjoying the music! | |
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29th October 2007, 08:58
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29th October 2007, 09:15
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| Distinguished - BHPian   | You got that X2 for Rs. 5000/- only!!?? That's a great price!  |
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29th October 2007, 09:33
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2. the warranty will be valid in Dubai or UAE not in India. Gunbir what's your take on this? Will you be in a position to offer support (technical, warranty, etc..)? | |||
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29th October 2007, 09:58
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29th October 2007, 10:09
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 The prices are tooo low. Without going deeper into pricing I can just say that there's something wrong here. For sure. 2. No Sir. We can't honor the UAE warranty in India. | |
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29th October 2007, 10:28
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30th October 2007, 18:09
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31st October 2007, 12:09
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Navin could you please move the relevant posts to DIY a 3-way Component system in the DIY section please? | |
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31st October 2007, 12:33
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Yes, it would be treated at par bought without B&W. I can give you atleast 7 items that I bought myself from US/DXB at unbelievable prices. | |
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31st October 2007, 13:11
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Something has an MSRP of $200, and is exported from origin at $100. Now add 10% freight, 40% duties and clearing charges and its landed here at $154. Now add importer, distributor and retailer margins, say a total of 10% or $20 for all of them. Now add Central Sales Tax @ 3% charged in the state of import, say Maharashtra. Now the cost is $ 180. Now add VAT @ 12.5% in state of final sale, say Karnataka for someone buying in Bangalore. So the end retail here is $202.50, which is slightly higher than the international MSRP. So the business folks responsible for importing, distributing and retailing made a total of 10% on retail, i.e. $20 for all their trouble and providing service & warranty. While the Govt made nearly 36% of retail price, i.e. $71.72 for sitting on their behinds. So the average Indian consumer pays for being a citizen in this country, NOT for his/her ignorance. | |
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31st October 2007, 13:20
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before you go making inductors I suggest you download Clio, Calsod, or LSpCad Lite, etc.. and simulate the existing EL 6.1 XO. The EL 6.1 XO is designed specifically for the drivers (all speaker companies do this). It takes into consideration the frequency response, power handling, excursion capabilities and other driver specifications. What these XO do not (and cannot) take into complete consideration is listener preference, driver installtion, etc.. Once you modelled the existing XO you can then tinker with the components and see what the change in each component does to teh phase, freq and power respone of the individal drivers and the system as a whole. It is not that tough, this post makes it look tougher than it is. What you need to keep in mind 1. tweeters are fragile. their excusion limits can be easily exceeded and you can blow them that way. Their thermal limits aare better but alos limited. 2. midranges and midwoofers ofnte have break up modes in th upper midrange. this is more common for the "exotic" stiff matierals such as kevlar, aluminum, carbon fiber etc.. 3. phase response is critical. Try to keep phase within 45 deg. This is TOUGHER than it looks. | |
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31st October 2007, 13:21
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 You are 100% correct in your calculations Gunman! I was talking without B&W. With B&W, what you say makes sense....but then there are lot many here (like me) who'd still take chance and save lots.  | |
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