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Originally Posted by DerAlte Actually Grundig, who are doing it for Delphi, have been going through a resurrection after being a TT ball between many owners. ..and it had the Philips signature - mellow, no harshness, decent UI, nothing exceptional but nothing bad either.. |
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Originally Posted by frankmehta I remember using a Grundig tv in austria, and they had quite an intricate menu for a 14 inch CRT. LOL. germans and their perfection! |
I did not want to get into the details but in the 80s Grundig was taken over by Philips NV. However for many years before this takeover Grundig has been posting milliion dollar losses. I can only assume accumulated losses for Grundig will be in the region of 100 million dollars unless they have capitalised these losses at various stages since.
Today Grundig is owned by a Turkish company called Arcelik (the Germans who have a distaste for the Turks called it Arcenic).
Grundig's heydays was in the 60s and 70s. I remember my father who carried a 1/4" 7" dia spool deck from Grundig back in the late 50s (1957-58 I think).
Now to get to Delphi Grundig. Delphi Automotive Systems (also called Automotive Components Group) was created as a subsidary of GM electronics (yes the same car company that filed for Bankruptcy recently).
Delphi was a mix of all auto electronics from steering controls (Saginaw), Packard (yes the same company that made the Packard cars) and the most famous of all AC Delco (GM-Delco-Bose was one of the first co-operative efforts between an audio company and a auto company to map the acoustics of a car's interiors and integrate better stereos into a car's console, the next big collaboration in this space was between Ford and Infinity and then Chrysler and ).
So GM rolled Delco, Saginaw, Packard, TRW, Lucas, Hughes (de-merged unit from Huges Defense) into one company ACG-Delphi. Somewhere post 2000 Delphi bought a part of Grundig and created the brand Delphi-Grundig. They focus more on driving and parking aids incl fuel cell management, fuel management systems (injectors etc.), in car bluetooth, parking sensors than on audio. They refer to ICE as Internal Combustion Engines and not In Car Entertainment.
Do not confuse Grundig A.G and it's history with Delphi-Grundig. Two very different companies with very different philosophies with reference to car audio.
The only thing common to both comapnies is that they are both awash in accumulated losses (which are reflected in their ROCE and RONW numbers). Delphi-Grundig is in admittedly bettter shape in that it has still not approached the govt. of Michigan for help.
Enough rambling. Sorry for boring everyone.
Why I know this...I used to work for a company in Tory Michigan (where Delphi is based) called L.D.J Electronics. LDJ under it's founder Leon Jackson (a mormon) was well run but after he left Dan Morris a brilliant engineer took over (I had left by then) after Dan left, the company went downhill till it was bought over by Walker magnetics. LDJ and GM shared a good relationship in the 80s and early 90s.