[arvindmanju]

Toyota Motor Corp. and BMW AG announced Thursday they have agreed to
collaborate in developing next-generation environmentally friendly
technologies.
Under the medium-to-long term partnership, the two sides will jointly
research lithium-ion batteries, while the German automaker will start
supplying from 2014 1.6-liter and 2.0-liter clean diesel engines to Toyota's
European subsidiary for vehicles to be sold in the European market, they said.
Speaking at a joint press conference in Tokyo, Toyota Executive Vice
President Takeshi Uchiyamada said Toyota ''needed to expand its diesel
(vehicle) lineup in Europe and thought (the two firms) can collaborate.''
The automakers aim to cut costs for developing core technologies for
eco-friendly vehicles by complementing each other with their respective
strengths while demand for such vehicles grows.
''Toyota and the BMW Group are perfect partners,'' said Klaus Draeger, a
member of the board of management of BMW.
In Europe, cars powered by clean diesel engines are predominant among
green vehicles as they are seen as fuel efficient and therefore effective in
cutting carbon dioxide emissions.
BMW and other European automakers have their strength in diesel vehicles,
and Toyota has already been verifying whether it can put BMW's diesel engine
in its own passenger cars for the European market.

Source: Reuters

[suhaas307]

Woah!

Is this really going to happen? Considering that one of BMW's chief competitors is Lexus, which is a Toyota brand? Also, if this is really going to happen, why will it be restricted only to the European markets? Won't these brilliant diesel engines do well in India, where the demand for diesel-engined cars is quite high?

[volkman10]

BMW Inks Deal to Supply Toyota with Diesel Engines for EU Car Market!

BMW announced December 1 that it cut a deal to supply 1.6- and 2.0-liter diesel engines to Toyota for the European market starting in 2014.
The memorandum of understanding (MoU) also covers a new collaboration deal on "next-generation lithium-ion battery technologies:" for electric vehicles.
Through this agreement, Toyota plans to expand its European lineup and sales of fuel-efficient, low CO-emission diesel-powered vehicles," according to Toyota.
Norbert Reithofer, Chairman of the Board of Management of BMW AG, added that the two companies "are now joining forces to further develop environment-friendly technologies and to expand our innovation leadership in each of our segments."

source Diesel Fuel News- Dec 5 2011

[volkman10]

Next Gen Auris to have BMW's diesel engine!

The new Auris’s platform is understood to have been engineered with a hybrid drivetrain in mind.

Updated versions of today’s 1.3 and 1.6-litre petrol engines are likely to carry over from launch, but the chief addition to the next-generation Auris line-up shortly after launch will be BMW diesel engines. Both 1.6 and 2.0-litre BMW oil-burners are tipped to be offered, which could help push the Auris into the mainstream.

New Toyota Auris previewed | Autocar

[DicKy]

For EU car market, eh?
Though we won't be seeing BMW engines in Toyota cars in India, can surely dream of such a scenario.
Wonder what effect it will have on Toyota's own small car diesel engine development, can't see anything other than the 1.4 D4D.

[aaggoswami]

Not sure how Peugeot is going to digest this. BMW and PSA group are already in an agreement for small petrol motors IIRC. The award winning 1.6 from BMW-PSA is one of the best 1.6 around in EU and is highly appreciated, repeatedly winning the World Engine of the year in its respective category from 2007 to 2011.

Now, BMW will be helping Toyota in diesel tech and small diesel engines that are likely to get in cars of Toyota which compete head on with model from PSA group. There are chances that PSA group might not be happy regarding BMW supplying diesel units to Toyota for EU market.

Another surprise is that Toyota has Isuzu, which is often known to produce the best diesel motors, then why Toyota has to take help from BMW ?

[sarthakgupta]

Originally Posted by aaggoswami

Another surprise is that Toyota has Isuzu, which is often known to produce the best diesel motors, then why Toyota has to take help from BMW ?

Toyota has discontinued Hiace van since the 2.0 diesel didn't met EURO5 emission norms:

Toyota To Discontinue Hiace & Exit UK Van Market - Van News: The VanRental.co.uk Blog

Quote from above website:

Toyota has announced it is to discontinue its Hiace van and exit the UK van market at the end of 2011, due to the impending requirement for all new vans to meet Euro 5 emissions standards. The Hiace’s current 2.0l diesel unit doesn’t meet the Euro 5 standard – and somewhat surprisingly, Toyota cannot or will not come up with a suitable replacement.

With the EURO 6 emission norms kicking in September 2014, the cost of engine development has spiralled up massively. Consequently carmakers are forming powertrain alliances so as to benefit both. BMW has mastery in diesels and Toyota in hybrids. Will benefit both.

[sarthakgupta]

Toyota to abandon diesel development. Its a 2011 source with many typos. Nevertheless considering recent announcements and developments we can consider it seriously

Toyota and Isuzu may abandon plans to develop diesel engines ----lookmach.com,Seek for machine all over the world.

Toyota and Isuzu may abandon plans to develop diesel engines, Isuzu stock appears in this report showed a larger decline.
In 2006, Toyota acquired 5.9% stake in Isuzu, the parties began to consider jointly developed a 1.6-liter diesel engine, and voted to build a new engine factory which planned production time is 2012. Toyota originally planned to carry on its passenger car diesel engine on, and thus open up the European market (60% of European cars equipped with diesel engines).
Reported that the decline in demand due to the global automotive market, Isuzu and Toyota on this project on hold last year. The decision to formally abandon the scheme may be Toyota's new president took office on the restructuring strategy. Toyota plans to focus on products such as the Prius hybrid car. Currently, Toyota's European competitors such as Volkswagen and Daimler hybrid car prices are also stepping up research and development type.

Does it mean we can kiss goodbye to legendary Toyota reliability for diesels?

[suhaas307]

Originally Posted by aaggoswami

Not sure how Peugeot is going to digest this. BMW and PSA group are already in an agreement for small petrol motors IIRC. The award winning 1.6 from BMW-PSA is one of the best 1.6 around in EU and is highly appreciated, repeatedly winning the World Engine of the year in its respective category from 2007 to 2011.

This 1.6 twin-scroll turbo mill will be phased out soon. It was plonked in the new-gen 2007 Mini Cooper S.

If the sources are right, the new Mini Cooper S slated for a 2014 launch will get BMW's own 2-liter 240+ horsepower twin-scroll turbo mill that you find in the new F10 328i

[volkman10]

BMW's CEO sees Toyota alliance going beyond 2025.

BMW CEO Oliver Zipse said he would seek to strengthen bonds with Toyota and wants the current alliance between the two automakers, which focuses on fuel cells and sports cars, going beyond 2025.

Fuel cell cars, which are powered by hydrogen, may benefit from a concerted push by policymakers, to industrialize the production of hydrogen

Link

[volkman10]

BMW X5 FCEV is built using Toyota's tech.

During the recent “Hydrogen Technology Day”, a small series production of the BMW i Hydrogen NEXT has been confirmed for 2022.

As a joint effort between BMW and Toyota, the fuel cell technology is from Toyota while the fuel cell stack and the overall system are from BMW

The fuel cell system in the BMW i Hydrogen NEXT is able to provide 170 PS of electrical power to the rear wheels.

With a high-voltage battery (fed by brake energy and energy from fuel cell) positioned above the e-drive providing additional boost, a total power output of 374 PS can be produced.

The i Hydrogen NEXT is equipped with two 700-bar hydrogen tanks, which are able to hold 6 kg of hydrogen combined, and can be refilled within 3 to 4 minutes

The electric motor used in the BMW i Hydrogen NEXT is the same fifth-generation e-drive used in the BMW iX3.

The hydrogen car’s range is yet to be confirmed, but BMW guarantees extensive range in all weather conditions.












Link

[Turbanator]

Originally Posted by volkman10

BMW X5 FCEV is built using Toyota's tech.

As a joint effort between BMW and Toyota, the fuel cell technology is from Toyota while the fuel cell stack and the overall system are from BMW

Not very good in physics. How are these long cylinders going to affect the handling?