Go Back   Team-BHP > Under the Hood > Technical Stuff


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 13th August 2012, 17:13   #1
BHPian
 
kapursaket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: New Delhi
Posts: 102
Thanked: 76 Times
Angry Skoda Fabia not responding to Ignition

Seek advice from fellow BHPians having SKODA FABIA 1.4 TDI(PD) Elegance, on facing following issue.

Car Background.

1)Purchased from Fahrenheit Automobiles New Delhi on 23/05/2010.
2)Two Free Services completed and the running on the Car is approximately 14000Kms only.
3)Trouble free ride all this while.

Problem Background.

1)Last week 8th August when retired cranking the Car to adjust the vehicle into the Parking Slot, it went blank.
2)All indicators were Normal, Light Horn working fine but absolutely mute on turning the ignition to start.
3)Called SKODA Dealership, was advised to try jump start and if it works change Battery as it is little over two years old.
4)Jump Start worked, so replaced the Battery from stock VRATA 61amp to Bosch 65amp.
5)Worked fine for two days and on evening of 11th August again the ingnition was mute.
6)Waited till next day and now tried ignition with the duplicate key and it worked.
7)Evening of Sunday 12th August while returning again the ignition went mute with the duplicate key too and luckily started after frantic switch on and off and closing and opening the front doors.
8)Checked with Jai Auto Mathura Road and they also appear to be on a trial and error trip.

In light of above please suggest probable cause of this issue which has made my Car vegetable.
kapursaket is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th August 2012, 17:20   #2
Senior - BHPian
 
vikram_d's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 2,380
Thanked: 936 Times
Default re: Skoda Fabia not responding to Ignition

Quote:
Originally Posted by kapursaket View Post
Seek advice from fellow BHPians having SKODA FABIA 1.4 TDI(PD) Elegance, on facing following issue.

Car Background.

1)Purchased from Fahrenheit Automobiles New Delhi on 23/05/2010.
2)Two Free Services completed and the running on the Car is approximately 14000Kms only.
3)Trouble free ride all this while.

Problem Background.

1)Last week 8th August when retired cranking the Car to adjust the vehicle into the Parking Slot, it went blank.
2)All indicators were Normal, Light Horn working fine but absolutely mute on turning the ignition to start.
3)Called SKODA Dealership, was advised to try jump start and if it works change Battery as it is little over two years old.
4)Jump Start worked, so replaced the Battery from stock VRATA 61amp to Bosch 65amp.
5)Worked fine for two days and on evening of 11th August again the ingnition was mute.
6)Waited till next day and now tried ignition with the duplicate key and it worked.
7)Evening of Sunday 12th August while returning again the ignition went mute with the duplicate key too and luckily started after frantic switch on and off and closing and opening the front doors.
8)Checked with Jai Auto Mathura Road and they also appear to be on a trial and error trip.

In light of above please suggest probable cause of this issue which has made my Car vegetable.
May be something as simple as a starter motor wiring loose contact. Get it checked ASAP. Does it have an immobiliser with a coded key? If yes, then that may also be the problem. But I would start with basics like the starter motor.
vikram_d is offline   (3) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 13th August 2012, 17:29   #3
BHPian
 
kapursaket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: New Delhi
Posts: 102
Thanked: 76 Times
Default re: Skoda Fabia not responding to Ignition

Yes it has the immobiliser and the corresponding key on the instrument cluster appears and dissapears in 5secs. I suspect issue with a relay/solenoid based contact which is actuating the Self motor.
kapursaket is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th August 2012, 19:22   #4
BHPian
 
nim_peter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Pune
Posts: 184
Thanked: 98 Times
Default re: Skoda Fabia not responding to Ignition

Looks like your battery is not charging up properly. If jump start works, then I don't think there is any problem with starter motor, wiring or immobilizer, I maybe wrong too. Checking the charge in the battery will rule that out. We can then look at other angles.

Last edited by nim_peter : 13th August 2012 at 19:23.
nim_peter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th August 2012, 19:31   #5
ECM
BHPian
 
ECM's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 221
Thanked: 6 Times
Default re: Skoda Fabia not responding to Ignition

I wonder why dealer used jump start in your car!! In such cases there are all chances that ECU get damaged OR go absolute dead.
ECM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13th August 2012, 19:35   #6
Senior - BHPian
 
mercedised's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Indore
Posts: 1,070
Thanked: 160 Times
Default re: Skoda Fabia not responding to Ignition

The same issue happened with me too, the problem was found tobe loose immobiliser connector. Get the immobiliser connector cleaned and tightened. I don;t know if Fabia comes with a separate immobiliser unit or not.
mercedised is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 13th August 2012, 19:43   #7
BHPian
 
yogeshnagpal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 190
Thanked: 78 Times
Default re: Skoda Fabia not responding to Ignition

Did you get the old battery checked before replacing it ? i.e the charge levels and the voltage levels on the multimeter ?

In the event that you doubt the battery, always ensure that you get the voltage levels checked using a multimeter. If the battery shows signs of weakness (i.e the voltage drops to around 6V - 7V) during ignition, then you can conclude that somethings wrong with the battery.

In normal circumstances, during ignition the battery voltage goes down to approx 9V.


I would suggest get the starter motor checked and also the fuse box.


Thanks,
Yogesh

Last edited by yogeshnagpal : 13th August 2012 at 19:48. Reason: Added few more points.
yogeshnagpal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th August 2012, 13:42   #8
BHPian
 
ragzv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Kolkata
Posts: 107
Thanked: 8 Times
Default re: Skoda Fabia not responding to Ignition

The OEM battery in my Fabia 1.4 PD TDI was 70 or 72amps (cant exactly remember) and was replaced with a 74amp SF (DIN74) battery. Please check the required battery capacity properly.
ragzv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th August 2012, 10:37   #9
BHPian
 
rajcs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Mumbai, MH
Posts: 226
Thanked: 185 Times
Default Re: Skoda Fabia not responding to Ignition

Quote:
Originally Posted by kapursaket View Post
1)Last week 8th August when retired cranking the Car to adjust the vehicle into the Parking Slot, it went blank.
2)All indicators were Normal, Light Horn working fine but absolutely mute on turning the ignition to start.


In light of above please suggest probable cause of this issue which has made my Car vegetable.
Had a similar experience last monsoon in my Fabia 1.6. Pulled out the ignition fuse (#30 in my car) and inserted it back. The ignition was normal immediately and never had a problem again. May have been a loose sitting fuse.
rajcs is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 15th August 2012, 10:46   #10
BHPian
 
kapursaket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: New Delhi
Posts: 102
Thanked: 76 Times
Default Re: Skoda Fabia not responding to Ignition

Already tried but to no avail. Jai auto also appears perplexed over the issue ... Already one day of investigation over
kapursaket is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th August 2012, 13:57   #11
BHPian
 
kapursaket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: New Delhi
Posts: 102
Thanked: 76 Times
Default Re: Skoda Fabia not responding to Ignition

Second Day at Dealership and no briefing of fault finding. This silence is eerie.
kapursaket is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th August 2012, 19:08   #12
BHPian
 
kapursaket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: New Delhi
Posts: 102
Thanked: 76 Times
Default Re: Skoda Fabia not responding to Ignition

Total goofup at the Service Center. All information being passed was of other Fabia having same last four digits as registeration number. But yes all well that ends well with a Service charge of INR616.00

Problem was snapping of the wire to the Starter Motor relay and this wire it seems snapped owing to have gone loose because of Diesel Engine Vibration and was skinning the Radiator Fan.
kapursaket is offline   (1) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 16th August 2012, 19:56   #13
BHPian
 
swarnava.m's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Mumbai/Margao
Posts: 632
Thanked: 256 Times
Default Re: Skoda Fabia not responding to Ignition

Quote:
Originally Posted by ECM View Post
I wonder why dealer used jump start in your car!! In such cases there are all chances that ECU get damaged OR go absolute dead.
I think what you are referring to is PUSH START, where the car is put into motion by pushing and then started by slotting it into gear, so it starts with a jerk.

@Kapursaket is referring to JUMP START, which is done using jump cables, and is pretty safe.
swarnava.m is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th August 2012, 21:53   #14
Senior - BHPian
 
vikram_d's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 2,380
Thanked: 936 Times
Default Re: Skoda Fabia not responding to Ignition

Quote:
Originally Posted by kapursaket View Post
Problem was snapping of the wire to the Starter Motor relay and this wire it seems snapped owing to have gone loose because of Diesel Engine Vibration and was skinning the Radiator Fan.
Can you please explain how the last 4 digits of a registration number cause this confusion?
vikram_d is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th August 2012, 22:35   #15
BHPian
 
kapursaket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: New Delhi
Posts: 102
Thanked: 76 Times
Default Re: Skoda Fabia not responding to Ignition

The last four digits 2782 of the registration plate were same while the initial were different
kapursaket is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
6 lakhs to repair Skoda Fabia engine. EDIT: Owner sells Fabia as scrap! zombiedriver Technical Stuff 234 27th July 2016 16:32
Hyundai Getz...Major Problem and Hyundai isnt responding speedz The Indian Car Scene 84 25th September 2013 11:16
Pathetic service from Skoda and Fabia woes. EDIT : Got FULL refund from Skoda Gaurav Mathur Indian Car Dealerships 80 11th August 2010 01:49
Why Skoda is not launching the Fabia GTO The Indian Car Scene 33 2nd May 2008 15:58
Pioneer p1Y not responding Ford Rocam In-Car Entertainment 8 6th December 2007 02:37


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 11:59.

Copyright 2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks