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Originally Posted by smsrini Jay,
Perhaps you should speak to Allan Almeida, of Sara Extreme 4x4 ( xtremepower ). I believe he's also based out of Mumbai, and has worked on the Scorpio, which also has IFS.
He may have some workable ideas for you.. |
Yes, I had spoken to Allan a long time ago, when it was a thought in my head. A proper discussion with him is pending. Sometime soon.
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Originally Posted by Steeroid Bro
The stuff from Italy isn't cheap, so find other sources. Your front suspension is a torsion bar - get a stronger torsion bar that can fit from the likes of ARB/Ironman/Dobinsons and raise it to the max. That will give you the front lift. The rear is coil, so that shouldn't be a problem.
The differentials are Dana 44s, so sourcing a suitable air-locker should be possible.
This is all speculation, though. These are plans I made for my 3.0 before it hit a 100k kms and I sold it - in retrospect I think I should've kept it.
If you need any help with the torsion bars or the air lockers, just PM me and I will see what I can do. You're coming to DXB anyway in March and we can take a good look around.
I have a lot of faith in this vehicle's ability to take abuse, because I did not spare mine any. |
After having put my Safari through a lot of offroad actio, I and quite confident of its abilities with some upgrades.
I wondering if the Ironman lift kit for the Endeavour will fit the Safari, esp the front torsion bars.
See you in the last week of March. Thanks for offering assistance. Appreciate is bro.
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Originally Posted by jyobeb ......
Anyway, a lift on the Safari will lead to a lot of roll. You will necessarily have to upgrade your shocks too.
Front diff is a Dana 30, by the way. |
A lift on any SUV will lead to a lot of roll. Correct me if im wrong.
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Originally Posted by tsk1979 The problem with the front end is not just the suspension. The weak link is the steering. Even with trail driving(extensive trail driving), you have center pin, or steering cross failures after a few thousand kms.
Changing the center pin every 10-25K is a norm in safaris driven continuously on rough terrain.
This steering system is simply not designed to take abuse. The Merlin fixes this issue, but the current 2.2, the steering is a pain.
another issue is that the Dana 30 front axle is not that durable, esp with a heavy front end. Dana 44 at rear is pretty tough, and you can take out the LSD kit(which anyways goes kaput after 60-70K) and fit in a locker. Raising the rear is also not an issue.
But a front raised safari as a daily driver with reliability required in remote places... that will be a tough thing. |
Tanveer, the steering might be weak but not as bad as you make it sound. I had the idler arm changed once. My truck just crosses 80k. Ive not had steering issues until now.
And you bet my truck has seen some really bad off the road action.
Can you explain what you mean by - front axle is not that durable, esp with a heavy front end - I cant quite understand.
I am considering fitting a locker at the rear.
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Originally Posted by Steeroid Not with the right set of springs/t-bars (and of course shocks - I have very high regard for the new FoamCell Shocks from Ironman here). You get very good constant-load springs/bars that can maintain composure.
Sorry about the Front Diff info, yes its a 30. As long as its a Dana you can find lockers for it, but I'd rather put lockers onto a 44 - the center is locked anyway, a rear lock will help matters.
These are not things people havent done before, so Jay isnt really going to be beating a lonely path. He can always touch base with the Italians (mpescatori and co?) for guidance, even if their components are expensive. |
Well Im determined to pull this off. Its something that I wanted to do for a long time.
It makes no sense buying another vehicle - jeep/gypsy/pajero etc and then modifying it.
I find the jeep and gypsy too crude. They excel offroad but cant make decent daily drivers and arent mile munchers on the highway either.
Buying a used Pajero and then modifying it is an expensive proposition.
Im pretty happy with the Safari fro what its worth.
Fixing issues that may crop up is equivalent to that may be encountered in any other modified vehicle.
And I really dont intend buying a single expensive Italian part. I wouldnt mind the expertise assistance.
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Originally Posted by Endeavour333 Body lift will not give you increased ground clearance by any measure unless you install bigger tyres.....
I wish you the best of luck in modifying your Safari! Maybe we will meet up one day with our beastly machines on an offroad trail
Look at some of the videos I have posted in that thread for te articulation now possible |
I have followed your entire thread up until now and seen all the videos you posted. Its a nice learning experience as you tread the path of modifying your vehicle.
Im hoping the Ironman kit fits the Safari. It would solve a lot of my troubles.
I dont think finding and installing the tires will be a problem. Those are on the cards anyways.
Getting the suspension and the body lift right is the primary challenge. Then the steering.
The Spider box or a remap is definitely on the cards. The extra power is much needed to move those fat MT tires post the upgrade.
DOes Ironman also sell body lift kits?
Thanks for the best wishes. Hopefully we will meet somewhere off the road.
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Originally Posted by 4x4addict Don't get me wrong guys, the above reasons, are precisely why I am suggesting that Safari is not a platform that you make into souped up 4x4 platform like a Pajero or Defender, Wrangler etc. There are too many weak links in the chain that will get you stranded... |
Stranded I doubt. It will take some learning and corrections to get it right(reference to weak links) And once the project is on, Im sure the advice and views pouring in from all of you will help in that direction.
Unlike the countless examples of Jeep and Gypsy mods available as reference on this forum, this Safari project might serve as a reference to those interested. I intend to update this thread all the way beyond the upgrade.
Please continue to pour your views and ideas.