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Originally Posted by DHABHAR.BEHRAM
(Post 3422625)
[b][u] Dear narendra.vw - dig a little deeper Behram Dhabhar |
Originally Posted by DHABHAR.BEHRAM
(Post 3421551)
Dear Sutripta - release bearing is not an idle bystander when the clutch pedal is not pressed. It rotates 100% of the time that the engine runs. What you are referring to happens in old generation vehicles like the Ambassador / Maruti 800. This is not clutch bearing noise, neither it is unloaded constant mesh pinions. Dig a little deeper, you'll get the answer. r |
Originally Posted by DHABHAR.BEHRAM
(Post 3422625)
Dear Sutripta - your comment - "in the Thar, is the release bearing on a (spring loaded) fork, or operated by a annular coaxial slave cylinder? An exploded parts diagram would be educative" - the release bearing is fork operated. The slave cylinder is mounted outside the clutch housing. The operating mechanism is of Bolero VLX (exactly same part numbers, therefore used :D). |
Originally Posted by narendra.vw
(Post 3422164)
My experience , It’s the clutch plate that is causing the sound. Clutch plate has springs to give cushion between the friction plate & to the Gears. These springs come in 4 or 6 no/-sits in predetermined slot made by the manufacturer. The slot has to be tight fit for the springs. Springs should not have play with the slot.. |
Dear narendra.vw - you are partially correct, although it is not just loose springs, dig a little deeper, you will find the full answer, nevertheless, well done! |
Originally Posted by DHABHAR.BEHRAM
(Post 3422625)
The pipe orientation is not suitable for hard core 4*4 application as it is oriented from the bottom and can break due to stone hit. Use Scorpio M2DI front brake pipe in this application with banjo bolt and two washers, reliability will become 100%. I had mentioned this on several occasions on the forum but upto now nobody has done it, do it naa guys, it takes only half an hour to fit, it will never ever fail yaar! |
Originally Posted by DHABHAR.BEHRAM
(Post 3420133)
Dear Samwagon - Now I am raising the bar, keep the wheel rims same, put 245/75R16 JK Elanzo tires and see the stance improve :) Best regards, Behram Dhabhar |
Originally Posted by narendra.vw
(Post 3423268)
Regarding Release Bearing, if it is defective, sound appears when clutch is depressed (when in contact with the pressure plate). Centrifugal force while Idling is not sufficient for the springs. Try to increase the rpm & then check. If constant sound is heard, it’s gears mesh problem related. One more information needed. Does the sound comes in cold start or normal temp start. This Info is the most important. |
Originally Posted by akshay4587
(Post 3423375)
No it doesn't. Only comes after the thar has run a fair bit of kilometers. |
Originally Posted by Drlmtukkar
(Post 3422293)
Db sir I have Elanzo Supra on my thar and they are really doing a great job.Both on n off the road. I had first seen them on the 521 and had to do a lot of head breaking to get them. |
Originally Posted by DHABHAR.BEHRAM
(Post 3422625)
Dear Drlmtukkar - hello there! I know that your comment is correct, still people waste perfectly good money to buy nonsensical tires, I wonder what is wrong with them! With Elanzos and a perfectly tuned suspension, 521 ran as if it was on rails. Please read the "Panvel to Alibag" drive review of August 2010, EXAMM of June 2010 and numerous occasions between Kandivli and Nasik. Now please do me a small favor. Knock off those (in my opinion) silly alloys, use production wheel rims, then see how dynamics improves! I am attaching two "drool" photographs to enable you to take this correct decision! :). |
Originally Posted by DHABHAR.BEHRAM
(Post 3422625)
Dear SutriptaThe pipe orientation is not suitable for hard core 4*4 application as it is oriented from the bottom and can break due to stone hit. Use Scorpio M2DI front brake pipe in this application with banjo bolt and two washers, reliability will become 100%. I had mentioned this on several occasions on the forum but upto now nobody has done it, do it naa guys, it takes only half an hour to fit, it will never ever fail yaar! |
Originally Posted by akshay4587
(Post 3422845)
Took a Can of WD40 and gave the wheels a generous spray,on the inner side,as given in the picture on the previous page. Result-Issue fixed clap: |
Originally Posted by Sutripta
(Post 3423222)
The Thar clutch noise:- was assuming it was rpm related, but would now like confirmation from those who have it. |
Originally Posted by akshay4587
(Post 3423375)
No it doesn't. Only comes after the thar has run a fair bit of kilometers. |
Originally Posted by narendra.vw
(Post 3424274)
Following details limit my experience. From your feed back, if sound appears only when engine is heated up then It’s definitely from the gearbox. To find out, drain the gearbox oil & fill it with higher grade oil. Run the car for few km until temp touches normal(Note Initially gear shifting will be Sticky),.check for the sound. If the sound is not audible then I’m afraid it’s counter gear bearing or gear itself. Solution, go back to recommended GB oil & add good quality GB Additive liberally(Meaning, bit more than necessary). This will help in some way or live with it. Omega I recommend if you can get one . |
Originally Posted by desertfox
(Post 3425272)
Went to the AAC again. This time the electrician was there. Took the vehicle for a test drive and the constant clicking sound in the relay was detected again. The diagnosis was that the AC switch was faulty, something touching was triggering the AC relay constantly. |
Originally Posted by datvichrox2
(Post 3425327)
Pardon my ignorance, but what kind of failure are we talking about? Great! Glad this worked. But as DB sir pointed out, its just a temporary measure for both of us. True that the sound is very much audible when idling after a long drive. But I sense that there is a difference when I press and release the clutch pedal just after cold start too. Its like, there's something already present during cold conditions that gets amplified after engine gets heated up. Akshay, could you check this out? Listen carefully after the first start of engine. -Vimal |
Originally Posted by datvichrox2
(Post 3425327)
True that the sound is very much audible when idling after a long drive. But I sense that there is a difference when I press and release the clutch pedal just after cold start too. Its like, there's something already present during cold conditions that gets amplified after engine gets heated up. Akshay, could you check this out? Listen carefully after the first start of engine. |
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