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The Fortuner has no "pulling force" issues though! ![]() Now coming back to the Duster, the only place where the reverse will need to be put to use, will be on the way back, that too on the tighter hairpins, somehow, I have a feeling that the tighter hairpins have flatter surface (similar to staircase landings - but only fractionally lower slope in comparison to the sections off the hairpin) Like this one The first Hairpin left has a distinct lower slope compared to the straight sections, and the subsequent right hand curve is good enough not to require a reversing. ![]() The Hiarpins shown above photographed from down below ![]() Even this hairpin, which appears to gain a lot of height, while at the hairpin itself, will have a little run-off area beyond the line not visible in pic (indicated by arrows), so a careful driver can probably leverage that, so as to prepare the car for the turn ahead of the actual hairpin (so as not to need reversing against the slope "in" the hairpin) ![]() One interesting thing to ask, would be, if the Duster will at all need reversing? Anyone has the Turning circle information of the Duster AWD vs the Scorpio's? Even in that case, the Scorpio's turning circle was sufficient in all of the turns on the way up, but was somehow insufficient on the way down! Maybe the vehicle was understeering on the slope on the way down (versus clawing tight on the way up plus it was the MLD at work, pushing the tail out). | |||
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Team-BHP Support ![]() ![]() | ![]() The 4WD's turning radius even for the newer generation is longer, I think it is at 5.7m, as the older Scorpio. Why don't you guys drive the AWD to Sandakphu and put an end to this debate? I know of 3 guys (from Calcutta) having AWD Duster on Team BHP. If some one volunteers. |
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Driving back on those slopes are really scary and can affect nerves, especially with this background knowledge at the back of the mind. In an OTR, all this is fine, as the environment is "controlled", but here, a failure can cost loss of property or injury (or the worst, life). As a responsible community, I guess, we need to take a stand now. It is not going to be "safe". | |
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| ![]() Btw, the newer generation Scorpio comes with 235/65 R17 wheels. Would be worthwhile to include that too in the spreadsheet ? |
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@FORTified: you might also want to go through this thread. Quote:
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Its a very small difference in the overall rolling radius, 14.48 inch on the older Scorpio vs 14.51 on the new one a difference of about 0.25% only. True, but its all fine when its done playfully, but this might result in a serious consequence. Because, unable to go somewhere is one thing, one can always bail out, but not able to come back from there, would leave that person with no other chance, but to risk themselves. | |
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In a vehicle that doesn't have 4L, or a good HDC system, climbing up would be easier than going down ![]() Lol. That's what I thought when I was wondering about braking and HDC system. Last edited by nilanjanray : 6th April 2015 at 12:47. | ||
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() Not sure if Duster has it, but HDC works as well as low range gearbox on steep descent. On Ladakh drives, i never skip a downhill shortcut. Even with prolonged usage on steep descents i have not experienced any brake fade or heating issues. |
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http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ine-works.html Cheers, Vikram | |
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![]() I had told myself I would not comment on this thread, but I think I should put in a word. If the Fortuner can make it past the bridge, it can reach S'Phu. But it would be rather low down on my list of vehicle choices for driving to S'Phu. Regarding gradient, just to put things in perspective (for those who know their Darjeeling roads), Pankhabari and Peshok have similar gradients, (but Peshok is far easier than Pankhabari). (The Singla or Goke roads are slightly steeper). The final 3 Km to S'Phu has twice the gradient of Pankhabari. Over unsealed roads. Regards Sutripta Last edited by Sutripta : 6th April 2015 at 22:12. | ||
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() No Sir, no sarcasm at all. The drive back is a test of nerves in either case, with the reverse ratio, this might just be a little bit too risky, besides if there is a Landrover on the opposite direction trying to make its way up, it will be a sin to obstruct it. |
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Re Pankhabari: I remember going on that route even in a Maruti Omni van. But it was many years back, don't remember much about the route. Last edited by nilanjanray : 7th April 2015 at 09:59. | |
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Team-BHP Support ![]() ![]() | ![]() I am curious how big is an old land rover? From what I read, old land rovers with very weak engines regularly do this. Speaking of tight narrow spaces, the Duster has an edge over all others. The worse would be the old safari, with the Storme also having an edge with 5.4 meters turning radius. |
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