Mahindra 4wd jeep swap with matador engine

vipinmohan · 1st August 2009, 14:15

I have a mahindra 4wd jeep. Now it has got a 500D international engine. Can i fit a matador 307 engine without changing gearbox?

joshguy · 1st August 2009, 22:40

i dont think so it is a good fit for Jeeps

trammway · 1st August 2009, 22:59

The matador 307 aka. Benz OM616 engine got a huge sump or vertically taller than the rest of Jeep engines (International DI, B275, Pugeot XDP 4.9, Pugeot XD3P), so this prevents the 307 to get fitted on the Jeep chassis otherwise they will hit the front wheel crown housing causing damages to either the differntial or the engine sump.

I had a bad experience with the engine in the past breaking my engine leading to major expense.

OM616 could be installed in a 2WD vehicles and not good for 4WD jeeps that are available.

Also you need to consider one more fact that there is only one suitable 4WD gearbox available for this engine that too from Trax Gurkha or Trax Judo vehicles and getting them on the market is near to impossible. I have used an adapter plate to accommodate the 307 engine with T90 3speed gearbox but they are not the right match and lots of issues as the 307 is high speed engine and T90 or KMT90 gearboxes are not produced for this engine. Adapter places also can create disaster when you go for real offroad.

SIMPLY ITS NOT WORTH THE EFFORT

foby.sebastian · 24th January 2010, 07:59

Vipin please dont go for the Matador engine on Jeep , I have seen many Jeeps which was a failure.

For 4x4 it does not even match ,

with trammway.

Please dont waste money

vipinmohan · 24th January 2010, 09:26

dropped the plan to swap engine

1st August 2009, 14:15	#1
vipinmohan BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: thrissur Posts: 50 Thanked: Once View My Garage	Mahindra 4wd jeep swap with matador engine I have a mahindra 4wd jeep. Now it has got a 500D international engine. Can i fit a matador 307 engine without changing gearbox?
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1st August 2009, 22:40	#2
joshguy BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,379 Thanked: 110 Times	i dont think so it is a good fit for Jeeps
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1st August 2009, 22:59	#3
trammway Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bridgewater USA Posts: 1,150 Thanked: 478 Times View My Garage	The matador 307 aka. Benz OM616 engine got a huge sump or vertically taller than the rest of Jeep engines (International DI, B275, Pugeot XDP 4.9, Pugeot XD3P), so this prevents the 307 to get fitted on the Jeep chassis otherwise they will hit the front wheel crown housing causing damages to either the differntial or the engine sump. I had a bad experience with the engine in the past breaking my engine leading to major expense. OM616 could be installed in a 2WD vehicles and not good for 4WD jeeps that are available. Also you need to consider one more fact that there is only one suitable 4WD gearbox available for this engine that too from Trax Gurkha or Trax Judo vehicles and getting them on the market is near to impossible. I have used an adapter plate to accommodate the 307 engine with T90 3speed gearbox but they are not the right match and lots of issues as the 307 is high speed engine and T90 or KMT90 gearboxes are not produced for this engine. Adapter places also can create disaster when you go for real offroad. SIMPLY ITS NOT WORTH THE EFFORT Last edited by trammway : 1st August 2009 at 23:01.
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24th January 2010, 07:59	#4
foby.sebastian Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: TCR/EKM/TVM Posts: 2,699 Thanked: 2,852 Times View My Garage	Vipin please dont go for the Matador engine on Jeep , I have seen many Jeeps which was a failure. For 4x4 it does not even match , with trammway. Please dont waste money
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24th January 2010, 09:26	#5
vipinmohan BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: thrissur Posts: 50 Thanked: Once View My Garage	dropped the plan to swap engine
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