How to safeguard your topless 4x4.

Samurai · 27th October 2009, 13:21

Thanks Krishna, I was worried there for a while.

I merged the threads since they are talking about the same thing.

tintin82 · 27th October 2009, 18:28

Thanks Krishna.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kittigadu

Umm... well i have no comments.

I was expecting this reaction from somebody atleast. I know I'm being paranoid, but well, better safe than sorry

Quote:

Originally Posted by kittigadu

This is called the master/deadlock switch made by hella.
If you love your jeep, get one immediately. I always lock the steering with a hockey stick like rod.

Any idea where I can procure one in Bangalore. I'm kinda new to the auto market here, have heard of JC Road and SP Road.

I'm thinking that putting up a Hard Top will reduce the appeal of the Gypsy. But in the end, If putting up a hard top is the more practical thing to do, I'll definitely go for it.

Thanks,
Sai

IronWolf · 9th November 2009, 13:39

Tintin - Car Automobiles off JC road has the Steering lock (Hockey rod type) for about 250Rs.

They should have the deadlock switch as well.

How about a way to lock the Engine Bay? Anyone?

Gypsy-Boy · 9th November 2009, 13:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by IronWolf

Tintin - Car Automobiles off JC road has the Steering lock (Hockey rod type) for about 250Rs.

They should have the deadlock switch as well.

How about a way to lock the Engine Bay? Anyone?

Check out what Ganesh (nick - Gbanwar) has done on his jeep.

Tejas@perioimpl · 10th December 2009, 15:41

As soon as i bought my Jeep, everyone warned me about how "theftable" the car is. I did a lot of searching on the net and came across a lot of ideas.
Just sharing a few here. Please feel free to add.

Acknowledgements:

Usenet
Offroad forum
Elkman

(most is cut paste)

DISCLAIMER: If someone is dedicated to stealing a Jeep or stealing something from it, there is nothing that we can do about it. But in-between the honest and the dishonest are the "dishonest when it is convenient," that is to say, the ones who will steal from your jeep when it is easy to do, but not if there is a chance of an alarm going off or if they will have to spend time breaking into the jeep. These are the people that we can deter -

1. The Disabler Switch

- Hide a 2 way fuel valve (extra tank) and put it between ports. You can only drive about a block before it runs out of gas

If you don't have a second tank a straight thru valve would work fine to shut off flow. Use swage-loc valves (real quality with stem mounting nuts) and for the on/off option a toggle valve is recommended. A simple "flip" on or off! It could even be installed inside a lockable box or the consol, or with a lock on the toggle handle itself.
Be careful of you have a fuel injected engine. The tank's fuel pump keeps the lines under high pressure at all times, even when parked - The only problem with this is that you could do damage to the fuel injectors.

- Battery Disconnect switch under the Hood with Keyed hood lock.

- Distributor kill switch

- Consider an alarm, because it would provide a starter disconnect.

2. The Steering Wheel.
- Use a 4' length of very heavy chain that goes thru the steering wheel, around the seat leg and is secured by a very large padlock

- Use a removeable steering wheel: Grant's No Wheel, No Steal kit. 4WD Hardware sells it.

- You can get a steering column sleeve (like a big metal fist) that is lockable over the entire steering column. Quadratec advertises these in its catalog.

- Removable steering wheel in the Summitt catalog for around $100. It is removed with a key, and has a cap that locks onto the steering column so that another steering wheel can't be put on.

- One of the most popular solutions in Central/South America is to weld tabs on the brake and clutch pedal, drill holes through the tabs and then place a lock through them. If you are creative and place the tabs correctly, a "trailer tongue" type lock can be utilized and is darned near impossible to cut off.

- Use the clutch - steering lock available locally. But, these are very common and a master key may be available. Also thieves are know to cut the steering wheel using a saw to remove this.

- Use a steering lock "club". But again a thief can cut the steering wheel.

3. Others
- Use silent pager-alarms you carry in your pocket. They aren't much good past a certain distance, but at home, or work, they are just fine, and you can deal with the thief yourself.

- Keep the coil to distributor wire inside the house

- Hood / bonnet lock

- In Canada, seat belt use is mandatory. There is a switch built into most driver side belts that show a fasten seat belt light when you turn the ignition. Wire it so that if the belt is not clipped in, the engine wont start. I don't think thieves are safety consciuos during a heist. I guess we can get this type from any local auto accessory store. Newer cars do have these systems built into the dash in India now.

- Take a piece of steel cable / chain about four feet long and loop it around brake and clutch pedals the other end wrap any slack around steering wheel and put a master lock thru the other loop and lock it to one of the holes in the spokes of the steering wheel. When not in use, just lock it to the roll bar.

- Keep a Dobermann in your Jeep. lol

- Install a series of rocker switches that have be put into a certain ON/OFF pattern for the Jeep to start. To any thief they just look like extra accesory switches. (can anyone explain this?)

- Keep your jeep in a very bad rusted condition. lol

- Run a wire from the parking light switch to a relay that powers the ignition switch, that way you have to have the light switch on in order to start up and afterwards you can turn the lights off.

- Sticker on a new Ford Truck....it read:
Nothing in MY truck is worth YOUR life!
i like it....

EDIT: OOPS Sorry. I made this as a new thread and it got shifted by the mod team to this thread (i couldn't find it in search). So there may be repeats in suggestions.

GoSlow · 10th December 2009, 15:52

Very good post tejas. Some of the options are very simple and easily doable at any mechanic!

Cheers
Ankit

yamaniac · 12th February 2010, 03:41

I am not sure of using autocops alarm system on jeeps.
Jeeps do not need batteries to start up, And I actually found this out by mistake.. I jump started it... Was very surprised and am worrying since then. But yeah pushing an over one ton jeep to jump start will require atleast 2-3 car thieves working as comrades

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tejas@perioimpl

- Keep a Dobermann in your Jeep. lol

lol. Not a bad idea, I think that would be the best solution after all.

I had been to chandni chowk delhi, Not for the purpose of buying anything, But just for a visit. And I happened to see scrap dealers selling mostly spare alloy wheels (1 number and not a set) in large quantities. and some where really in a brand new condition.

If your jeep has a good spare alloy with a descent tyre with some life in it, Make sure you lock it with a padlock.

gonewithwind · 12th February 2010, 11:58

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gsferrari · 7th March 2010, 09:39

So let me summarize what I think can be implemented in India without too much of a runabout:

1. Gear-Lock is the last and most dependable deterrent. Use in Reverse gear! (Autocop Terminator)
2. Steering Lock
3. Battery/Ignition dead-lock (Hella brand)
4. Shift the vehicle's 4WD into Neutral
5. Fuel-cutoff
6. Xenos brand car alarm
7. Adult male Rottweiler

Sounds doable...and fun (especially the last option)

Despite all this if your vehicle is taken then that is what you have Insurance, friends, tissues, chick-flicks and your favorite beer.

Cheers!

shekaran · 16th November 2010, 19:50

Friends,
Like F1 cars, have a quick release steering wheel kit in the jeep.
when you park, just press a knobby button, and take the steering with you in hand.
its just like motorcyclists carrying helmets and you will be surely noticed wherever you go, LOL !!!
am attaching some reference pics for understanding.

Ragul · 16th November 2010, 20:17

It is more likely that people will remove all your tyres overnight than steal the Jeep or Gypsy.

What are those unremovable lock nuts for wheels? Are they safe or is there a chance of failure?

Thanks

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IronWolf Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Benga-loo-ru Posts: 1,569 Thanked: 45 Times View My Garage	Tintin - Car Automobiles off JC road has the Steering lock (Hockey rod type) for about 250Rs. They should have the deadlock switch as well. How about a way to lock the Engine Bay? Anyone?
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Tejas@perioimpl Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bombay Posts: 4,423 Thanked: 9,580 Times View My Garage	Jeep Security & Theft Prevention As soon as i bought my Jeep, everyone warned me about how "theftable" the car is. I did a lot of searching on the net and came across a lot of ideas. Just sharing a few here. Please feel free to add. Acknowledgements: Usenet Offroad forum Elkman (most is cut paste) DISCLAIMER: If someone is dedicated to stealing a Jeep or stealing something from it, there is nothing that we can do about it. But in-between the honest and the dishonest are the "dishonest when it is convenient," that is to say, the ones who will steal from your jeep when it is easy to do, but not if there is a chance of an alarm going off or if they will have to spend time breaking into the jeep. These are the people that we can deter - 1. The Disabler Switch - Hide a 2 way fuel valve (extra tank) and put it between ports. You can only drive about a block before it runs out of gas If you don't have a second tank a straight thru valve would work fine to shut off flow. Use swage-loc valves (real quality with stem mounting nuts) and for the on/off option a toggle valve is recommended. A simple "flip" on or off! It could even be installed inside a lockable box or the consol, or with a lock on the toggle handle itself. Be careful of you have a fuel injected engine. The tank's fuel pump keeps the lines under high pressure at all times, even when parked - The only problem with this is that you could do damage to the fuel injectors. - Battery Disconnect switch under the Hood with Keyed hood lock. - Distributor kill switch - Consider an alarm, because it would provide a starter disconnect. 2. The Steering Wheel. - Use a 4' length of very heavy chain that goes thru the steering wheel, around the seat leg and is secured by a very large padlock - Use a removeable steering wheel: Grant's No Wheel, No Steal kit. 4WD Hardware sells it. - You can get a steering column sleeve (like a big metal fist) that is lockable over the entire steering column. Quadratec advertises these in its catalog. - Removable steering wheel in the Summitt catalog for around $100. It is removed with a key, and has a cap that locks onto the steering column so that another steering wheel can't be put on. - One of the most popular solutions in Central/South America is to weld tabs on the brake and clutch pedal, drill holes through the tabs and then place a lock through them. If you are creative and place the tabs correctly, a "trailer tongue" type lock can be utilized and is darned near impossible to cut off. - Use the clutch - steering lock available locally. But, these are very common and a master key may be available. Also thieves are know to cut the steering wheel using a saw to remove this. - Use a steering lock "club". But again a thief can cut the steering wheel. 3. Others - Use silent pager-alarms you carry in your pocket. They aren't much good past a certain distance, but at home, or work, they are just fine, and you can deal with the thief yourself. - Keep the coil to distributor wire inside the house - Hood / bonnet lock - In Canada, seat belt use is mandatory. There is a switch built into most driver side belts that show a fasten seat belt light when you turn the ignition. Wire it so that if the belt is not clipped in, the engine wont start. I don't think thieves are safety consciuos during a heist. I guess we can get this type from any local auto accessory store. Newer cars do have these systems built into the dash in India now. - Take a piece of steel cable / chain about four feet long and loop it around brake and clutch pedals the other end wrap any slack around steering wheel and put a master lock thru the other loop and lock it to one of the holes in the spokes of the steering wheel. When not in use, just lock it to the roll bar. - Keep a Dobermann in your Jeep. lol - Install a series of rocker switches that have be put into a certain ON/OFF pattern for the Jeep to start. To any thief they just look like extra accesory switches. (can anyone explain this?) - Keep your jeep in a very bad rusted condition. lol - Run a wire from the parking light switch to a relay that powers the ignition switch, that way you have to have the light switch on in order to start up and afterwards you can turn the lights off. - Sticker on a new Ford Truck....it read: Nothing in MY truck is worth YOUR life! i like it.... EDIT: OOPS Sorry. I made this as a new thread and it got shifted by the mod team to this thread (i couldn't find it in search). So there may be repeats in suggestions. Last edited by Tejas@perioimpl : 10th December 2009 at 15:47. Reason: see edit
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gsferrari Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,014 Thanked: 1,802 Times	So let me summarize what I think can be implemented in India without too much of a runabout: 1. Gear-Lock is the last and most dependable deterrent. Use in Reverse gear! (Autocop Terminator) 2. Steering Lock 3. Battery/Ignition dead-lock (Hella brand) 4. Shift the vehicle's 4WD into Neutral 5. Fuel-cutoff 6. Xenos brand car alarm 7. Adult male Rottweiler Sounds doable...and fun (especially the last option) Despite all this if your vehicle is taken then that is what you have Insurance, friends, tissues, chick-flicks and your favorite beer. Cheers! Last edited by gsferrari : 7th March 2010 at 09:41.
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shekaran BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Puducherry Posts: 245 Thanked: 77 Times View My Garage	Friends, Like F1 cars, have a quick release steering wheel kit in the jeep. when you park, just press a knobby button, and take the steering with you in hand. its just like motorcyclists carrying helmets and you will be surely noticed wherever you go, LOL !!! am attaching some reference pics for understanding. Attached Thumbnails Attached Images
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Ragul BANNED Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,259 Thanked: 954 Times	It is more likely that people will remove all your tyres overnight than steal the Jeep or Gypsy. What are those unremovable lock nuts for wheels? Are they safe or is there a chance of failure? Thanks
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