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The THAR . Dont know, it looks way to bling for me. I think my jeep looks way better than the thar.:thumbs up

Deepak, GC is a misnomer to be used here for rampover angle calculation.

Technically GC is the height of the lowest point, generally the lowest point of differential.

But the GC value we need for rampover calculation is generally the clearance at the mid point of the wheelbase. As shown by Jaggu in post #366. That point is generally 1 foot above the ground.

BTW, I didn't calculate the rampover angle of 33 degree for the CJ340. It is printed on the CJ340 brochure along with pictorial description.:)

Actually my CJ340 has even more rampover angle than the stock CJ340, since it has been raised, and runs on bigger tyres.

Samurai,

Would it be possible for You to post the pictorial description here.

TIA

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Originally Posted by Rocky_Balboa (Post 1679913)
Would it be possible for You to post the pictorial description here.

Not a problem, here you go:

Mahindra Thar revealed at Autoexpo 2010-scan00011.jpg

What does M&M manual say for MM540 DP interms of break over angle?

Here you go with the MM540 specification Vinod!
It says 27.

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Originally Posted by DKG (Post 1678720)
Noakh toot gayee to kya karoge? Sharpner bhi leke jaana padega. Iss liye kabhi kabhi pen aur sensible option hoti

Translated: You need to carry a sharpner with a pencil like some spares and a mechanic with the good old Jeep :D just kidding guys !

Hi DKG,

In SPACE you forgot, gravity or the lack of it.

Simple Pencil :rules:

Regards,

Arka

Thanks Samurai.

Comparing the pic You posted against Jaggu's, isnt there a difference at the the actual angle is calculated. Not that it would make a big difference, but just trying to understand.

Starter, the TBhp logo has overtaken the bottom of the pic. Can You please post another one.

@Jaggu, Thanks for the clarification. I re-read the 4x4forum and it said close to 90deg is ideal. Just curious to know if 90deg angle can ever be achieved. Maybe the Bowler Wild Cat!!

PS: I am getting more curious and interested, since my wifey gave a green signal to buy a Thar sometime next year. Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Hey Rocky,
Sorry about that. I edited it a little bit in mspaint and uploading it now.
Hope, this is better.
Cheers,
Deepak

OT: Gypsy might also be in this range or maybe slightly better. I do not know, Experts might comment. Gypsy has a WB of 2375 (2430 for 540) and GC of 210 (200 for 540), just in comparison to the below picture of 540.

I know this might be the wrong place, but can someone please why one shouldn't drive a 4x4 on tarmac and why does this damage the transdfer case. Then what about All Wheel Drive cars?

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Originally Posted by vinod_nookala (Post 1680002)
What does M&M manual say for MM540 DP interms of break over angle?


i believe it is 20 deg in the specification sheets.

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Originally Posted by MileCruncher (Post 1680218)
I know this might be the wrong place, but can someone please why one shouldn't drive a 4x4 on tarmac and why does this damage the transdfer case. Then what about All Wheel Drive cars?

Here you go: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-te...ng-thread.html

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Originally Posted by MileCruncher (Post 1680218)
I know this might be the wrong place, but can someone please why one shouldn't drive a 4x4 on tarmac and why does this damage the transdfer case. Then what about All Wheel Drive cars?

Check here: https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-t...ml#post1450245

Mmy 2 cents: Shorter the wheelbase higher will be the rampover angle. Or if you go SPOA.

Look at the thread which shows flying jeeps, thats one expensive way to not bother about rampover angles :D

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Originally Posted by MileCruncher (Post 1680218)
I know this might be the wrong place, but can someone please why one shouldn't drive a 4x4 on tarmac and why does this damage the transdfer case. Then what about All Wheel Drive cars?

Dear Milecruncher- a 4WD vehicle with drive engaged to both wheels should not be driven at high speeds on tarmac because this may lead to undue stresses in the driveline (called as driveline windup), in this condition some weak link in your driveline will give up due to these stresses, this can also result in oil leaks from the axles or driveline components. This happens because the front wheels and the rear wheels while going around a turn must have different angular velocities, this is achieved through a centre differential placed between the two axles, which takes care of this change in speed, AWD cars i believe have this arrangement, gurus please correct me if i am wrong.

Regards,

Spike


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