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Doesn't all New generation Mahindra 4WD vehicles come with the Freewheeling/Autolocking hubs? (i mean the scorpios and the export boleros, and not the regular DI engine vehicles like Bolero LX and Pick ups)

"pind aje waseya nahi, mangte pehle aa gaye"

All the threads on thar are worthless without a proper launch schedule & expected price range.

I go with what ARKA says, MM knew what they were giving, threads here were to gain popularity & gauge market response.

MM should have discussed Thar on some
of their own platforms. Taking gullable offroaders for a ride is not a good thing.

DD at his best again :uncontrol

Infact most of the OTR vehicles are stock sir!

Well, pretty strong words from you, my friend :confused:

I agree!


Arka, where are you?



Now, what is "Serious Offroad Fun" seems to be an oxymoron :Frustrati


It depends on the kind of obstacle one would want to conquer my friend!

Dear ADC- can you please tell me the reason, why do you need gas shock absorbers for THAR please:also most vehicles today, and all from M&M platform i suppose use discs at the front as it is imperative for CMVR. please correct me if i am wrong.

Fazal Bhai- thanks a lot, the more you share the more you learn,:)

Spike

Ramp over unlike approach and departure lesser is better if am not mistaken.

Something like this:
Automotive Dictionary - "RA"

EDIT: Lesser is NOT better, but depending on the wheel base rather :p

How do you calculate breakover angle? - YotaTech Forums

Jaggu,

Damn! You beat me to this, I was just about to post the same picture.

I have a doubt on the 15 deg claim.
Tata Xenon claims a 15deg rampover angle with 3150mm wheelbase and 200mm ground clearance. And Thar claims a 15deg rampover with 2430mm wheelbase and 200mm ground clearance.

Shouldnt Thar's rampover angle be higher?

Edit: or maybe lower and better as per Jaggu's post.

OT:

There was a *Mighty Muscular* Scorpio that took part in the Road & Track Munnar OTR. I talked to one of the organisers and he said that the Scorpio was able to keep up with the jeeps. Similar to the Bangalore jeeps the Bumper was removed and it was shod with Mudzilla tires.

Pics at: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-ex...th-13th-5.html

ADC, all Mahindra Jeeps in the last few years come with disc brakes. Also, you can't have disc brakes without booster, unless you can stamp your foot like an elephant.

Rehaan's Scorpio with mudzillas could pretty much do anything in all the Karnataka OTRs, as long the automatic 4x4 kept working. Thar should do better.

Let's not worry about the rampover angle yet, I think it is a case of wrong data. My CJ340 has 33 degree rampover angle.

Actually this was discussed earlier i guess http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ver-angle.html

Anyways by the calculator i used it says close to 19 deg which might be theoretical (thar) and since in real life there is something protruding more than actual ground clearance at the center the angle is 15?

Where as the same calculator showed 15 for the Xenon, maybe it doesnt have anything hanging, maybe it has tall tires?

Calculator here

EDIT: 33deg for CJ :Shockked:

The 200mm GC mentioned is that of the diff housing (and hence not related to the ramp breakover), and not the horizontal pink line in the above figure.

Jaggu,

I thought the angle would be lesser on a SWB and was surprised too see 19 on the calculator. I looked at the pics posted on page 2 and nothing seems to be lower than a Xenon. Ofcourse thats only a visual measurement and not actuals.

I am confused now - Is lesser the better?
Edit: Thanks BT, now there goes another question - what is the actual ground clearance on the Thar.

Edit2: OT, 200mm on Xenon is actually on the horizontal pink line.

Just from exprience from owning both setups for alot of years nothing else.

No one is saying that, it just that unless M&M can give an option list [please check my list for some of them] that vehicle will get to most of the places on shear power and torque. but some situation the vehicle will need the addition of stuff, which is available for the 540/550 and gypsi.

I do trust the MAN, but looking at the specs, it's made for people who need a all round vehicle [like me] not an all out off roader like most thought.Than again the older M&M vehicle were great except for the low power engines.
The Gurkha comes with factory fitted equipment which is not in the spec sheet for the THAR.You know what I mean. Which M&M need to provide at least as option.
OK we should wait for the THAR to be launched and test it first.
SO WHEN DO WE HAVE THE HONOR OF DOING THIS SIR. Hope we bhpian have the first go at it.:D

No, lesser is not good. But to have a bigger reading, one will need to upsize the tire/increase suspension height for more ground clearance or shorter wheelbase.

@Experts: 20 plus is considered very good for 4x4's?

Dear Sharath,
Did you mean 23 here? For a 80" WB, to have a 33 degree rampover, the GC should be in the range of 280mm, isn't it? Does CJ have such a high GC or is it only with your vehicle?
Cheers,
Deepak