[Sawyer]

I have a stock gypsy that has done 10000 very enjoyable kms in stock form, except for 205 yokos. Brilliant all round tyres for my needs, and the only problem is that the car still looks undertyred. Now that I know the car well, I am thinking of putting bigger tyres, just to fill the wheel well at the back a little more! I don't see that my Gypsy needs anything more in terms of looks or performance enhancement, the bigger tyres need to also give that much more ground clearance without upsetting the balance of the car.
Choices are the 215/75 Goodrich or the 215/70 section Yokos. The Goodrich is the better looker, but I have a strong sense that the Yoko is the better tyre in terms of tread and rubber quality, for all round use. if the Yoko was available in the 215/75 size, it would be perfect!
I was intrigued to see the 235 section Michelin LTX AT on your car, what was the exact size of the tyre - and I suspect it is not available any more. Were you able to use the OE wheels ( my preference ) and did you have any fouling. And, for the spare, does the little door at the back carry the extra weight without falling off? To me, the Michelin has always been the tyre to have for this kind of a car, but they come in limited sizes. My other concern about the 235 section is the steering effort it will need for the car to turn.

[Desmosedici]

Originally Posted by Sawyer

I have a strong sense that the Yoko is the better tyre in terms of tread and rubber quality, for all round use. if the Yoko was available in the 215/75 size, it would be perfect!
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Sir, Yokos are available in 215/75 size. I got those in feb '10 in mumbai for 4250 per tyre.

Regards,
Raj

[Sawyer]

Originally Posted by Desmosedici

Yokos are available in 215/75 size.

Please check the marking on the tyre - I am pretty sure it would be 215/70. If it says 215/75 then the Yokohama website is wrong, which, I doubt.

[Desmosedici]

Sawyer Sir,

Please see my thread for snaps. 4th photo shows the tyre marking and its 215/75.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-ve...ml#post1814593

[Sawyer]

It does indeed! I shall check with the tyre dealer right away, thanks! The Yoko website is wrong, it says 215/70...

[indra_slk]

I have a extra set of MIchelin LTX 235/75 R15 that ive never used. Let me know if your interested.

[Sawyer]

Originally Posted by indra_slk

I have a extra set of MIchelin LTX 235/75 R15 that ive never used. Let me know if your interested.

I would be very interested! Three questions:

1. Would they go on to the OE steel rims?

2. Do they interfere with the body work on turns etc.?

3. Is the rear door strong enough to carry the spare?

And generally, how do they work on a Gypsy?

[indra_slk]

Originally Posted by Sawyer

I would be very interested! Three questions:

1. Would they go on to the OE steel rims?

2. Do they interfere with the body work on turns etc.?

3. Is the rear door strong enough to carry the spare?

And generally, how do they work on a Gypsy?

The fit perfectly on OE rim used it on mine for close to a year.
Yes at first but small cuts here and there and your good to go.
Yes the rear door is strong.

Off roading wise they are brilliant.

Anyways some more pics of my Gypsy after reducing 5 " of height.

[karizma9292]

Originally Posted by indra_slk

Anyways some more pics of my Gypsy after reducing 5 " of height.

Bro now your gypsy looks better and will be more stable on or off the road

What size spacers have you used now?

[karizma9292]

Mods sorry for the back to back post , Please merge it if possible

Dude what have you done to prevent axle wrap?

[Sawyer]

Originally Posted by Desmosedici

Sir, Yokos are available in 215/75 size. I got those in feb '10 in mumbai for 4250 per tyre.

Regards,
Raj

Thanks to the above, I got the Gypsy new shoes yesterday, the same spec/make as the above, but for Rs 5300 a piece now. I did get back Rs 1400 a piece for the old 205s with 10k on them, so I am reasonably pleased with that part.
For no noticeable change in steering effort, the Gypsy now rides a little softer on the minor road blemishes, looks better, is about an inch taller with that much more ground clearance as well. I decided to not opt for the Michelin LTX because I prefer to not do the bodywork cutting stuff that is needed to accommodate them. I am not a off road for the fun of it enthusiast, for me going off road only makes sense if it necessary to do so to get to a place I want to go to. And for that, the Yokos are plenty capable. Of course for knowing what the Gypsy can do - a hell of a lot - it helps to do some dedicated off road drives, as I have been lucky to. In the first 10k, with a mix of highway, city and mild OTRs done, I did not suffer a single puncture and I am looking forward to that reliability from the new Yokos as well, they are, to my mind, the best AT tyres in the country today.
The only problem with the new( and old ) Yokos is that mounting the spare leaves an indentation on the tyre where it meets the mounting bracket, when the three nuts are tightened. Anyone found a solution to that?

[Sawyer]

A small follow up and thanks to Desmo. The 215/75 Yokos are one step better than the 205/70 ones, which were good already. The 215s need no extra steering effort - I wonder why, the steering even feels a tad lighter - and have take some of the bite out of the ride via the extra cushioning. Make no mistake, it is still a Gypsy and will buck wildly over large undulations but normal city rides are a lot better now. All in all, an excellent upgrade. The Yokohama Geolandar is truly an excellent all round tyre for this car.

[Desmosedici]

Thats nice to hear. Keep the pressure a bit lower and you shall get some more cushioning effect but a tad lesser acceleration which is manageable. For me 30psi is bouncy and 28psi is a better ride within the city.

[Sawyer]

Originally Posted by Desmosedici

Thats nice to hear. Keep the pressure a bit lower and you shall get some more cushioning effect but a tad lesser acceleration which is manageable. For me 30psi is bouncy and 28psi is a better ride within the city.

That is another subject! If you see the maruti recommended pressures, they are 20 all around for normal load, and 26 at the back on load.
I leave mine 24/26 all the time. Why do you keep the pressure so much more than what the manufacturer recommends?
20 all around for single seat driving is the next thing to try.

[Desmosedici]

Originally Posted by Sawyer

That is another subject! If you see the maruti recommended pressures, they are 20 all around for normal load, and 26 at the back on load.
I leave mine 24/26 all the time. Why do you keep the pressure so much more than what the manufacturer recommends?
20 all around for single seat driving is the next thing to try.

I dont have the service manual and hence no idea on MUL recommended pressures. i had heard someone say 28 - 30psi so that stayed that way. thanks for the info. i shall try it out.