Advanced Installation technique - mounting tweeters

airfoil · 14th July 2006, 00:47

Sam, what are those holes drilled (and later filled) for?

jkdas · 14th July 2006, 06:44

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Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

JK, this cannot be done with cars where there is a little lever to adjust the mirror. However in the case of a powered mirror, if the inner panel of the tweeter can be removed and is clear behind (like for example the lancers with power windows) then yes, why not.

sorry boss, forgot the "t" in the can

k36 · 14th July 2006, 09:46

Thanks Sam for the idea!
Though I cannot do this in my swift because of the mirror adjustment levers, the idea of using filler+cloth to improve interiors is GREAT.. and opens the door to numerous new possibilities

navin · 14th July 2006, 09:52

Nice one Sam. It increases my options for which car to buy. Previously I used to only buy cars which had front tweeter pods and motorised mirrors.

As far as reducing treble is concerned I can see of a even nicer way....add these steps to the procedure where required.
a) cut of most of back of cup before super gluing it to the panel
b) use grill cloth that is a bit less acoustically transparent. you can test this by putting this over the tweeter and listening to it.
c) cover that part of the grill cloth that covers the cup cavaity with paper or tape (to be removed later) to protect it from the loctite and putty.
d) cut hole in mirror panel to mate with the hole made in the cup of tweeter (which is stuck on mirror panel).
e) install tweeter from the rear and use grill cloth (after you remove tape/paper sheild) as filter.

Sam Kapasi · 14th July 2006, 11:08

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Originally Posted by airfoil

Sam, what are those holes drilled (and later filled) for?

These holes are made so that you can inject the filler into the cavity between the cloth and the panel itself

Like this.

kb100 · 14th July 2006, 19:02

Therefore to make it solid???

condor · 14th July 2006, 19:34

Yes - compare the first and last pics. Using the cloth and the glue with it creates a new shape. Filling the gap inside / below the cloth makes it solid.

Sam - thanks for this.

929RON · 15th July 2006, 02:03

THANK YOU SAM !

kURETI · 17th July 2006, 16:29

good oneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

esteem_lover · 18th July 2006, 15:22

great sam....could this modification be tried on the door pads also, since i have an internally adjustable mirror ???

Sam Kapasi · 18th July 2006, 15:24

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Originally Posted by esteem_lover

great sam....could this modification be tried on the door pads also, since i have an internally adjustable mirror ???

Yes, I suppose it could. But where will you hide the ends of the cloth used for shape?
Unless, you mount the tweeter cup and then re-mount the upholstery on the door panel.... hmmm.....

wannabelean · 17th August 2006, 20:57

what car was used for this pictorial Sam? do you know anybody who can do this in Hyderabad with the same professionalism?

santosh.s · 28th May 2007, 22:22

Sam, a dumb question- can't we flush mount the tweeter behind mirror?

gopz · 31st May 2007, 11:04

Great work Sam, keep posting more such DIY stuff!

headers · 31st May 2007, 12:37

great work sam..I've my tweeters in a similar position on the doors..will post pics soon..!! Infact i've seen this being done by many installers..but did not take pics and i guess i cannot explain as clearly as you've done..

Great JOB!

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airfoil BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 318 Thanked: 81 Times	Sam, what are those holes drilled (and later filled) for?
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14th July 2006, 09:46	#18
k36 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 133 Thanked: 21 Times	Thanks Sam for the idea! Though I cannot do this in my swift because of the mirror adjustment levers, the idea of using filler+cloth to improve interiors is GREAT.. and opens the door to numerous new possibilities Last edited by k36 : 14th July 2006 at 09:48.
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14th July 2006, 09:52	#19
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,198 Thanked: 9,302 Times	Nice one Sam. It increases my options for which car to buy. Previously I used to only buy cars which had front tweeter pods and motorised mirrors. As far as reducing treble is concerned I can see of a even nicer way....add these steps to the procedure where required. a) cut of most of back of cup before super gluing it to the panel b) use grill cloth that is a bit less acoustically transparent. you can test this by putting this over the tweeter and listening to it. c) cover that part of the grill cloth that covers the cup cavaity with paper or tape (to be removed later) to protect it from the loctite and putty. d) cut hole in mirror panel to mate with the hole made in the cup of tweeter (which is stuck on mirror panel). e) install tweeter from the rear and use grill cloth (after you remove tape/paper sheild) as filter.
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14th July 2006, 19:02	#21
kb100 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangy Boy! Posts: 1,555 Thanked: 21 Times	Therefore to make it solid???
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14th July 2006, 19:34	#22
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 15,864 Thanked: 16,014 Times View My Garage	Yes - compare the first and last pics. Using the cloth and the glue with it creates a new shape. Filling the gap inside / below the cloth makes it solid. Sam - thanks for this.
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15th July 2006, 02:03	#23
929RON BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: KS CITY Posts: 114 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	THANK YOU SAM !
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17th July 2006, 16:29	#24
kURETI BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 104 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	good oneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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18th July 2006, 15:22	#25
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 502 Times View My Garage	great sam....could this modification be tried on the door pads also, since i have an internally adjustable mirror ???
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17th August 2006, 20:57	#27
wannabelean BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: hyderabad Posts: 54 Thanked: 27 Times	what car was used for this pictorial Sam? do you know anybody who can do this in Hyderabad with the same professionalism?
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28th May 2007, 22:22	#28
santosh.s Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,077 Thanked: 70 Times View My Garage	Sam, a dumb question- can't we flush mount the tweeter behind mirror?
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31st May 2007, 11:04	#29
gopz BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: India Posts: 452 Thanked: 6 Times View My Garage	Great work Sam, keep posting more such DIY stuff!
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31st May 2007, 12:37	#30
headers Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Greater Chennai Posts: 4,667 Thanked: 559 Times	great work sam..I've my tweeters in a similar position on the doors..will post pics soon..!! Infact i've seen this being done by many installers..but did not take pics and i guess i cannot explain as clearly as you've done.. Great JOB!
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