Trouble with JBL !!

NIP · 7th August 2006, 17:50

B&T...of course i checked before buying...and the buttons were working !! I dont understand this issue at all !!

Sam Kapasi · 7th August 2006, 17:56

Strangely, I've never heard of the tweeter dB button getting "stuck"
Something is warning me that you have fried your highs and the heat generated could have very well melted the unit that holds the mids and highs.
If it were under warranty, honestly, our service section would have replaced the entire unit that holds the mids and highs. Even though it isn't the fault of the speaker.

I would like to point out once again that no expert here recommends the use of an equalizer (esp. a pioneer 6500) in your car, unless you know precisely what it is made for and use it correctly. I speak for anyone on this or any forum that knows his audio. Mainly because no one knows how to use an equalizer (it is used to equalize the sound, not boost it).

Bass&Trouble · 7th August 2006, 18:59

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Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

I would like to point out once again that no expert here recommends the use of an equalizer (esp. a pioneer 6500) in your car, unless you know precisely what it is made for and use it correctly. I speak for anyone on this or any forum that knows his audio. Mainly because no one knows how to use an equalizer (it is used to equalize the sound, not boost it).

The 6500 is an extinct unit now. It was handy when head units didn't have more than a pair of pre-outs. I'd feel like a bozo to route my signal through one of them. Most head units have electronic equalizers that do the job better, and dont need to go through the 6500s antique rustic electronics.

NIP · 7th August 2006, 19:56

B&T...its difficult to juggle thru the menu on the HU everytime u need to adjust the levels of the subs etc...thats the only reason i had it installed...i can control the sound even without lookin at the HU while driving....

NIP · 7th August 2006, 19:59

sam....the speakers highs are just fine...so is the low...its only that when the volume is at say "1" (lowest)....i can hear a fluttering sound from one of the speakers...and of course...the buttons remain stuck !! could not take the car to the installer today cause i was busy with a four letter word called 'work'!! will see if i can do that tomm...

sam...is there any way you can check on the stuck buttons issue from jbl !?

Sam Kapasi · 7th August 2006, 20:52

I already have. There is no occurence of any suck "stuck" buttons.

Was any glue/chemical used during the installation/cleaning process?

You must realise that they are push button switches. Yes, switches can fail and get stuck, but 2 identical switches failing on a pair fit in your car (And you say both were working before), sounds most irregular.
PS- I am in a position to tell you, that yours is the only such case in India (and possibly world-wide)
I recommend you return the speakers to your dealer.

navin · 7th August 2006, 22:17

Are the switches exposed? If so did someone keep something heavy like books on them? I have not seen the 937 so excuse the newbie questions. Just covering any uncovered ideas.

jkdas · 7th August 2006, 22:40

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Originally Posted by navin

Are the switches exposed? If so did someone keep something heavy like books on them? I have not seen the 937 so excuse the newbie questions. Just covering any uncovered ideas.

good point Navin.

and http://www.fxaudio.com/caraudio/jbl-speakers-gto937.htm the 937

NIP · 8th August 2006, 10:55

no navin...the speakers are not installed flat...they are installed on the side wall of the scorpio...and since the install, no ones been in the rear seats as well...heres how:

NIP · 8th August 2006, 10:57

sam...no chemicals or glue was used...my installer is one of the best in town !! this sure beats me...will try and figure this out from him...and will also speak to my dealer....!

prakashchopper · 8th August 2006, 11:18

Hey Guys,

Not aware what the prob is but i had a similar case in My Marutis JBL 6X9, that too within a week of purchase. However Sam may be right as i too had used a pioneer HU and used to fiddle with equalises often, but again speakers should be able to handle a bit of rough handling what say?

navin · 8th August 2006, 12:19

prakash, your JBL's db button got stuck too?

navin · 8th August 2006, 12:21

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Originally Posted by NIP

sam....the speakers highs are just fine...so is the low...its only that when the volume is at say "1" (lowest)....i can hear a fluttering sound from one of the speakers...!?

ask your installer to replace these with another pair. the "fluttering" might be a wiring issue (ground loop) and not the speaker.

are the buttons stuck in the "in" or "out" position?

jkdas · 8th August 2006, 14:20

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Originally Posted by navin

ask your installer to replace these with another pair. the "fluttering" might be a wiring issue (ground loop) and not the speaker.

are the buttons stuck in the "in" or "out" position?

think things get stuck when its "in".

Sam Kapasi · 8th August 2006, 14:41

He told me his button is stuck while "out", which is why i am baffled.

7th August 2006, 17:50	#16
NIP Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,180 Thanked: 152 Times View My Garage	B&T...of course i checked before buying...and the buttons were working !! I dont understand this issue at all !!
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7th August 2006, 17:56	#17
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,997 Thanked: 2,378 Times View My Garage	Strangely, I've never heard of the tweeter dB button getting "stuck" Something is warning me that you have fried your highs and the heat generated could have very well melted the unit that holds the mids and highs. If it were under warranty, honestly, our service section would have replaced the entire unit that holds the mids and highs. Even though it isn't the fault of the speaker. I would like to point out once again that no expert here recommends the use of an equalizer (esp. a pioneer 6500) in your car, unless you know precisely what it is made for and use it correctly. I speak for anyone on this or any forum that knows his audio. Mainly because no one knows how to use an equalizer (it is used to equalize the sound, not boost it).
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7th August 2006, 19:56	#19
NIP Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,180 Thanked: 152 Times View My Garage	B&T...its difficult to juggle thru the menu on the HU everytime u need to adjust the levels of the subs etc...thats the only reason i had it installed...i can control the sound even without lookin at the HU while driving....
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7th August 2006, 19:59	#20
NIP Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,180 Thanked: 152 Times View My Garage	sam....the speakers highs are just fine...so is the low...its only that when the volume is at say "1" (lowest)....i can hear a fluttering sound from one of the speakers...and of course...the buttons remain stuck !! could not take the car to the installer today cause i was busy with a four letter word called 'work'!! will see if i can do that tomm... sam...is there any way you can check on the stuck buttons issue from jbl !? Last edited by NIP : 7th August 2006 at 20:14.
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7th August 2006, 20:52	#21
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,997 Thanked: 2,378 Times View My Garage	I already have. There is no occurence of any suck "stuck" buttons. Was any glue/chemical used during the installation/cleaning process? You must realise that they are push button switches. Yes, switches can fail and get stuck, but 2 identical switches failing on a pair fit in your car (And you say both were working before), sounds most irregular. PS- I am in a position to tell you, that yours is the only such case in India (and possibly world-wide) I recommend you return the speakers to your dealer.
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7th August 2006, 22:17	#22
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,199 Thanked: 9,306 Times	Are the switches exposed? If so did someone keep something heavy like books on them? I have not seen the 937 so excuse the newbie questions. Just covering any uncovered ideas.
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8th August 2006, 10:55	#24
NIP Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,180 Thanked: 152 Times View My Garage	no navin...the speakers are not installed flat...they are installed on the side wall of the scorpio...and since the install, no ones been in the rear seats as well...heres how: Last edited by NIP : 8th August 2006 at 10:58.
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8th August 2006, 10:57	#25
NIP Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,180 Thanked: 152 Times View My Garage	sam...no chemicals or glue was used...my installer is one of the best in town !! this sure beats me...will try and figure this out from him...and will also speak to my dealer....!
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8th August 2006, 11:18	#26
prakashchopper Newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 15 Thanked: 0 Times	Hey Guys, Not aware what the prob is but i had a similar case in My Marutis JBL 6X9, that too within a week of purchase. However Sam may be right as i too had used a pioneer HU and used to fiddle with equalises often, but again speakers should be able to handle a bit of rough handling what say?
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8th August 2006, 12:19	#27
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,199 Thanked: 9,306 Times	prakash, your JBL's db button got stuck too?
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8th August 2006, 14:41	#30
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,997 Thanked: 2,378 Times View My Garage	He told me his button is stuck while "out", which is why i am baffled.
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