need help in getting right amplifier

virender_gaur · 15th August 2006, 10:45

Hi !
i came to this wonderful site while surfing on the net. i didn't knew this type of site existed for indian cars.
coming to my problem, i have bought Indigo lx and installed a
kenwood vcd player

7" screen

in dash board i have a pair of sony 4 " driving them from HU

Amp ( taken out from my old M800)

sony 222 35 w X 2 Rms

V12 85 X 4 w @ 4 ohm Rms
170 X 2 w @ 4 ohm (bridged) Rms

sub
one old pioneer sub taken from M800 160 w Rms in the boot powered from 2 ch of V12

i dont have any speakers in rear yet.
The other 2 ch of V12 & 2 ch of sony 222 are not driving nothing.

i am now planning to add 2 pioneer dvc or svc ( 400 w Rms each)
for the amp i searched the market in gurgaon sec 14 and only branded amp i saw was sony 504z in that also first 2 ch cannot be run in bridged mode.
i went to sony world , they have a D class amp which can produce
500 w Rms @ 2 ohm but the price was Rs.11990 . i told him that i will buy 2 amps & asked for discount but he refused.
then i saw an 4 ch amp named GLIDER . it has 2 X 30 A fuse , 225 W X 2 rms @ 4 ohm (bridged) for around Rs 3800. I am now thinking of buying 2 GLIDER amps & 2 pioneer DVC. Each amp will drive one DVC in bridged mode.

but i want to go for a branded D class amp bcause they are more efficient then A/B class
So can any one can suggest a mono amp atleast 1000 W Rms nearby gurgaon,faridabad or delhi with price mentioned

i have budget of Rs 15000 ~ 18000 (max) for amplifier

jkdas · 15th August 2006, 11:03

1000W @ 20k? I doubt unless its gonna be a grey one.
Check out JBL GTO 601.1. I am sure it can rock in your car even with 2 15inch subs! OR even the Sony would do a great job.

OT! a VCD, a sub which can take 1000W and you have a 4inch thingy at frnt? Hello??? Get a compo!

virender_gaur · 15th August 2006, 11:30

Thanx for reply but how much does GTO 601.1 cost & where can i buy it

low_bass_makker · 15th August 2006, 11:42

one word or advice dont go for glider it is fake chinese amp.....
go for 601.1 or u can use a pioneer 510D and wire two SVC pioneer 306c subs to it this can also fit in ur budget......

in the front u can must use a componet kit JBL 607 6.5 inch will do the job quite nicely.......

virender_gaur · 15th August 2006, 11:53

thanx but where can i found stuff like jbl bcause in gurgaon atleast the only brand are sony, pioneer sub, boss amp , soundblaster amp

low_bass_makker · 15th August 2006, 11:58

u can go to karol bagh there is a huge makert of car audio products....

virender_gaur · 15th August 2006, 11:58

i had a friend who bought one pioneer dvc & a glider amp in santro xing. when i saw the sub playing, the amp was pushing the sub to it's max limit .

s0uljah · 15th August 2006, 12:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by virender_gaur

when i saw the sub playing, the amp was pushing the sub to it's max limit .

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/car-en...rformance.html

Read the link pasted above.

low_bass_makker · 15th August 2006, 12:04

no man the glider was pushing it into clipping these are not good amps go for a branded amp like pioneer alpine jbl or even sony will do but not glider soundblaster and even boss i hate to say u the v12 u mentioned is also a fake post some pics of the same so that we can confirm the same ,these are some bad brand.......

good work souljah!!!!!!!!!!!!!

~ H O N D A ~ · 15th August 2006, 13:54

I think you should go in for a Pioneer Ampli

aZa · 15th August 2006, 14:22

Stay away from V12 (Silver/Black) Alpine amps. These are chinese made stuff, if u wire up the four channels to speakers u get a loud wine. Its best to choose a branded amp. Sony's Mono amp is popular u could get it for 10K. Or try this one if u want a cheap branded amp JVC-KS-AX3500 u shud get it for 4K.

virender_gaur · 16th August 2006, 20:05

thanx! aza,honda,lbm,souljah for replying.

ok now i got it. i will wait for one month & will increase my budget upto Rs 28000 for amps

what will JBL GTO 601.1 , JBL GTO 1201.1, pioneer amp or sony amp will cost around and also jbl subs with bill & without bill (grey) .please mention power(Rms) of the amp & sub. i need 1X 1000w Rms or 2X 500w rms D class amp.

btw i have uploaded video of my friend's pioneer dvc with glider amp , you see , hear & decide whether the amp is clipping or not. i have measured the output voltage of the amp in bridged mode , it was around 27 V .each coil of dvc was recieving 27 volts.

video
[COLOR=#800080]http://rapidshare.de/files/29615442/pioneerdvc.pdf[/COLOR]
rename extension pdf to divx

virender_gaur · 16th August 2006, 21:03

do we have HIFONICS BXi 2006D or BXi 1606D or BXi 1206D available in india ?

amit_sound · 17th August 2006, 00:30

i have started having doubts about pioneer. In the market pioneer's SVC are rated at 400Watts RMS. I doubt if its real 400w rms.

You see i have a pair of JBL GT4-15 15" which are rated at 250Watts RMS. It hard for me to believe that pioneer is better than JBL. How come pioneer is selling 400Watts RMS at 3.5 k.?

Kindly clarify my doubt

khanak · 17th August 2006, 01:57

Can someone tell me what difference an Amp makes. I mean if they both supply the same amount of power to your speakers, why does one go in for more expensive amps. I can understand speakers where quality and design change the sound. But Amps?

15th August 2006, 10:45	#1
virender_gaur Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 10 Thanked: 0 Times	need help in getting right amplifier Hi ! i came to this wonderful site while surfing on the net. i didn't knew this type of site existed for indian cars. coming to my problem, i have bought Indigo lx and installed a kenwood vcd player 7" screen in dash board i have a pair of sony 4 " driving them from HU Amp ( taken out from my old M800) sony 222 35 w X 2 Rms V12 85 X 4 w @ 4 ohm Rms 170 X 2 w @ 4 ohm (bridged) Rms sub one old pioneer sub taken from M800 160 w Rms in the boot powered from 2 ch of V12 i dont have any speakers in rear yet. The other 2 ch of V12 & 2 ch of sony 222 are not driving nothing. i am now planning to add 2 pioneer dvc or svc ( 400 w Rms each) for the amp i searched the market in gurgaon sec 14 and only branded amp i saw was sony 504z in that also first 2 ch cannot be run in bridged mode. i went to sony world , they have a D class amp which can produce 500 w Rms @ 2 ohm but the price was Rs.11990 . i told him that i will buy 2 amps & asked for discount but he refused. then i saw an 4 ch amp named GLIDER . it has 2 X 30 A fuse , 225 W X 2 rms @ 4 ohm (bridged) for around Rs 3800. I am now thinking of buying 2 GLIDER amps & 2 pioneer DVC. Each amp will drive one DVC in bridged mode. but i want to go for a branded D class amp bcause they are more efficient then A/B class So can any one can suggest a mono amp atleast 1000 W Rms nearby gurgaon,faridabad or delhi with price mentioned i have budget of Rs 15000 ~ 18000 (max) for amplifier Last edited by virender_gaur : 15th August 2006 at 10:57.
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15th August 2006, 11:03	#2
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,493 Times View My Garage	1000W @ 20k? I doubt unless its gonna be a grey one. Check out JBL GTO 601.1. I am sure it can rock in your car even with 2 15inch subs! OR even the Sony would do a great job. OT! a VCD, a sub which can take 1000W and you have a 4inch thingy at frnt? Hello??? Get a compo!
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15th August 2006, 11:30	#3
virender_gaur Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 10 Thanked: 0 Times	Thanx for reply but how much does GTO 601.1 cost & where can i buy it
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15th August 2006, 11:42	#4
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,815 Thanked: 305 Times View My Garage	one word or advice dont go for glider it is fake chinese amp..... go for 601.1 or u can use a pioneer 510D and wire two SVC pioneer 306c subs to it this can also fit in ur budget...... in the front u can must use a componet kit JBL 607 6.5 inch will do the job quite nicely.......
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15th August 2006, 11:53	#5
virender_gaur Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 10 Thanked: 0 Times	thanx but where can i found stuff like jbl bcause in gurgaon atleast the only brand are sony, pioneer sub, boss amp , soundblaster amp
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15th August 2006, 11:58	#6
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,815 Thanked: 305 Times View My Garage	u can go to karol bagh there is a huge makert of car audio products....
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15th August 2006, 12:04	#9
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,815 Thanked: 305 Times View My Garage	no man the glider was pushing it into clipping these are not good amps go for a branded amp like pioneer alpine jbl or even sony will do but not glider soundblaster and even boss i hate to say u the v12 u mentioned is also a fake post some pics of the same so that we can confirm the same ,these are some bad brand....... good work souljah!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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15th August 2006, 13:54	#10
~ H O N D A ~ BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 171 Thanked: 9 Times View My Garage	I think you should go in for a Pioneer Ampli Last edited by ~ H O N D A ~ : 15th August 2006 at 13:55.
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15th August 2006, 14:22	#11
aZa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noida / Delhi Posts: 1,595 Thanked: 21 Times View My Garage	Stay away from V12 (Silver/Black) Alpine amps. These are chinese made stuff, if u wire up the four channels to speakers u get a loud wine. Its best to choose a branded amp. Sony's Mono amp is popular u could get it for 10K. Or try this one if u want a cheap branded amp JVC-KS-AX3500 u shud get it for 4K.
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16th August 2006, 20:05	#12
virender_gaur Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 10 Thanked: 0 Times	thanx! aza,honda,lbm,souljah for replying. ok now i got it. i will wait for one month & will increase my budget upto Rs 28000 for amps what will JBL GTO 601.1 , JBL GTO 1201.1, pioneer amp or sony amp will cost around and also jbl subs with bill & without bill (grey) .please mention power(Rms) of the amp & sub. i need 1X 1000w Rms or 2X 500w rms D class amp. btw i have uploaded video of my friend's pioneer dvc with glider amp , you see , hear & decide whether the amp is clipping or not. i have measured the output voltage of the amp in bridged mode , it was around 27 V .each coil of dvc was recieving 27 volts. video [COLOR=#800080]http://rapidshare.de/files/29615442/pioneerdvc.pdf[/COLOR] rename extension pdf to divx
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16th August 2006, 21:03	#13
virender_gaur Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 10 Thanked: 0 Times	do we have HIFONICS BXi 2006D or BXi 1606D or BXi 1206D available in india ?
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17th August 2006, 00:30	#14
amit_sound BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 596 Thanked: 11 Times	i have started having doubts about pioneer. In the market pioneer's SVC are rated at 400Watts RMS. I doubt if its real 400w rms. You see i have a pair of JBL GT4-15 15" which are rated at 250Watts RMS. It hard for me to believe that pioneer is better than JBL. How come pioneer is selling 400Watts RMS at 3.5 k.? Kindly clarify my doubt
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17th August 2006, 01:57	#15
khanak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai/Toronto Posts: 2,800 Thanked: 270 Times View My Garage	Can someone tell me what difference an Amp makes. I mean if they both supply the same amount of power to your speakers, why does one go in for more expensive amps. I can understand speakers where quality and design change the sound. But Amps?
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