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16th September 2006, 00:57
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| NavinJi, Dont you think this will be a SOUND system rather than a MUSIC system?  He should get 2 306F Subs. F is better than anything for this setup!  he should avoid the coaxials for now. Later the bass will shake him and the neighborhood, then it'll be time for some real music. He can get some speakers then. For now, lot of bass (2 306F powered by 4channel amp & 6" by 222) and treble (TS20). |
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16th September 2006, 15:57
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| I want to make a statement!!! Mobike007+1, Please read thru the glossary thread to get an Idea of ICE terminology. Dont worry, it's not much confusing to read. Otherwise, you'll be left out from the beautiful world of ICE!!! And with your last post, you've confused things more. You were very certain of MAKING A STATEMENT outside the car and you have asked for it twice!! All the replies you got were pretty much based on that. And now you're saying about keeping it simple. If you want to just add some components to your existing setup according to your last post, then never think about MAKING STATEMENT factor!! The Bass created by 6" will be not adequate even for a normal setup. Unless one does'nt have the moolah in his and car or pocket, nobody considers buying these. But in your case, you already have those so it can just become part of your setup. That's all. The real bass as you wanted earlier will only come from a 15" or 12" subwoofers. And we recommended 306F because it's a free air type. When mated to a Ported or a Bandpass setup, these can move a lot of air and can cause Bass heavy setups. As your budget was 15k+, we recommended to go for 2 subs which cost around 6k and a 4channel amp costing 4k and a HU costing 6k. Total= 16k. And you'd have got a very bass heavy setup which can make more than statement. But these setups wont be any musical. And one will get tired of it very easily (one cannot carry on making statement for long) and will like to actually listen to some music. So, if you dont want to make any statement but wants a good sounding system, then do this: Get a decent HU from Pioneer/ Blaupunkt/ Kenwood. 6K. Get a 6.5" component speaker system for the front and power it from your HU. 6K. Plonk your 6" woofers in the rear. Power it from your 222 amp. Sony 222 is an old 2channel amp. I have listened to it in many setups and found it not very good for music. It's ok to power 1 subwoofer in bridged mode. But again in your case, you have one lying. So just make it part of your install. Later you can buy on 4channel amp and power the speakers from it. And if you want you can add a 12" sub too. These are Bandpass Diagrams:   And these are ported diagrams:    You can get more info about different boxes over here. Hope this solves your mistery!! |
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Like Zak saind the 6" you got can hardly be called a woofer. I use 2 6.5" wofoers in my car as a temporary fix till my custom sub is built and they really only manage to reproduce stuff to 40Hz hardly a subwoofer. If you want to make a statement you would need atleast a good 12"/15"/18"/21" sub. A few very good 10" subs can also make a statement but they are expensive. The cheapest bass option for you is a Pio 306F or 306C that sells for about 3K. The 306C is designed to work in small selaed boxes and the 306F is designed to work in a properly sealed MDF rear deck (like an Accent). However you have a Viva. A Viva is a notch/hacthback. I use a similar car (Octavia) and a well made box in the trunck will produce enough bass in the cabin. So 4K used for a subwoofer and a box. The Sony 222 is not capable of powering the Pio 306F/C adequaltly. Hence the cheapest option is the Sony 552 at 3K. The 222 however can adequately power the 6" midbass you have. 11K left... I'd get a HU for 7K with atleast one preout for the 552. Pioneer makes a nice one. Forget model number (just make sure you get a BILL and A warranty etc...). That leaves 4K which I'd suggest you spend on a pair of 6" coax for the front doors. This is what I would do... a) Connect pre out of HU to 552 amp and 552 amp to Pio woofer in box in trunk face sub box to the rear of the car. b) connect rear speaker out of HU to 222 amp (via speaker to line level adapter if needed) and connect 222 to 6" sub also in trunk. Also connect the rear speaker out from HU to the 2 TS20 Pio tweeters (via the supplised crossovers). The Pio tweeters and the 6" woofer will now fade with the rear fader. c) connect the front speaker out of the HU to the 6" coax in the front doors. The TS20 tweeters and 6" woofer can hence be faded in and out of the system as you feel fit. My guess is that you might be happy with the sound of the Pio sub and front speakers and might not feel the need to fade in the 222 amp+6"woofer and Pio tweeters. Hope this helps. | |
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