bad experience with sprocket..!!

lancer_maniac · 6th October 2006, 19:38

went with my Sfxi with a wiring problem for my stereo (pioneer hunit,444 xploid amp with pioneer 4 way speakers) to sprocket...the problem was some kind of distortion from speakers and the battery's were getting drained due to some kind of short..the sprocket guys said to change the whole wiring and i ended up spending 2000 bucks..(1200 for the set of wires and 800 rs labour charge)..and u know what still the distortion is there...when enquired they telling me now the prob is with the amp...Think i been taken for a drive here...Also only the amp wires have been changed which i got to know nly after they finishd the work whereas i thought the wiring kit inludes all the wires needed for the system....just the AMP wires cost 1200???im not sure...bhpians plz help me...also any idea wat maybe the prob...really confused wat to do now...

navin · 7th October 2006, 09:34

a) what is a SFxi? We dont know engines vengines here!
b) what sort of distortion?
c) why not use the "replace" method. i.e: check the HU in another system then check the amp in another system and lastly the speakers (each component should be check individually
d) what wires did they use? the amp has 3 sets of wires (a) RCA wires that come from the HU (b) speaker wires that go to the speaker (c) power wires that come fromt the battery which of these did they change?

Sam Kapasi · 7th October 2006, 11:38

Navin,

See his name na? What car do you think he drives? lol

Wiring kits are generally for the amp. What wires can you change in the HU? I think what you call distortion may be alternator whine. Ask the guys to lower the gains on the amps and do let us know what brand kit you have purchased.
Is your battery still getting drained?

Go back to sprocket. Ask for their chief installer, John. Tell him you're a friend of mine. He will sort you out.

navin · 7th October 2006, 11:52

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Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

Go back to sprocket. Ask for their chief installer, John. Tell him you're a friend of mine. He will sort you out.

Or Sam will sort John out! :-) LOL those dandiya sticks are lethal weapons in the right hands.

speedzak · 7th October 2006, 12:45

Now, that's what we call a real help from Sam.
And 1200 for an amp wiring kit is not much. What brand did you get? Please dont say it's a BOSS.
Next time, drive to Cochin rather than Bangalore for your audio.

blueraven316 · 7th October 2006, 12:59

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Originally Posted by speedzak

Now, that's what we call a real help from Sam.
And 1200 for an amp wiring kit is not much. What brand did you get? Please dont say it's a BOSS.
Next time, drive to Cochin rather than Bangalore for your audio.

Lancer_maniac : Most wiring kits don't come with speaker wires.

staten1 · 7th October 2006, 18:46

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Originally Posted by lancer_maniac

went with my Sfxi with a wiring problem for my stereo (pioneer hunit,444 xploid amp with pioneer 4 way speakers) to sprocket...the problem was some kind of distortion from speakers and the battery's were getting drained due to some kind of short..the sprocket guys said to change the whole wiring and i ended up spending 2000 bucks..(1200 for the set of wires and 800 rs labour charge)..and u know what still the distortion is there...when enquired they telling me now the prob is with the amp...Think i been taken for a drive here...Also only the amp wires have been changed which i got to know nly after they finishd the work whereas i thought the wiring kit inludes all the wires needed for the system....just the AMP wires cost 1200???im not sure...bhpians plz help me...also any idea wat maybe the prob...really confused wat to do now...

basicaly you have been taken for a ride, your problems could be one of the following.
bad quality products(fake, grey market products, bad quality stuff etc)
bad installation job
configuration does not match or support ur setup
job done by some barber or butcher
poor quality of installatio and bad grounding therefore ur battery was getting drained out.
now remember u cannot ask a milk man to brew u some vine so go to a certified installer to get ur job done.
there are 2 good guys in this business
1. eb bass - mr assif. no9886323371 kumarapark bangalore
2. auto fusion -mr anwar .no9886037737 koramangala bangalore

good luck and dont let a butcher become ur barber

speedzak · 7th October 2006, 21:54

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Originally Posted by staten1

now remember u cannot ask a milk man to brew u some vine so go to a certified installer to get ur job done.

!!!!!!!!!!
This line should be kept in mind of each and every person who goes for any sort of installs in his/her car.

Many a times, people go to expert installers and even after knowing their work quality they choose cheaper installers. And after getting ripped off or being unstatisfied with the setup, they go back to the expert to set things right. This will make any good installer fume in anger. There it goes!!!
The man will badmouth the installer (Because he refused to set things right) to an extent that he'll call him the worst guy to ever go for an install!!!

Well done Staten1. I wanted to say this many a times and you have done it beautifuly.

NIP · 10th October 2006, 11:34

pardon my ignorance, but are BOSS wiring kits really that bad ?! what are the other entry level wiring kits available and their costs !?

navin · 10th October 2006, 12:57

I like to recommend Monster's Intrerlink Jr. and Twister. A pair of RCA cables from either of these would run you rs. 1200-1400.

lancer_maniac · 10th October 2006, 20:37

thanx for the advices bhpians..so i think i will give it one more try by going back to sprocket....and by the way battery is not getting drained now.....atleast one prob is solved....who do u think is good in electric works in blr? have some more work in my Lancer like the power window is getting weaker...any idea how much the motor comes..

speedzak · 11th October 2006, 02:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by lancer_maniac

thanx for the advices bhpians..so i think i will give it one more try by going back to sprocket....and by the way battery is not getting drained now.....atleast one prob is solved....who do u think is good in electric works in blr? have some more work in my Lancer like the power window is getting weaker...any idea how much the motor comes..

This is a non ICEy question. PM Psycho for a best electric guy!!

navin · 11th October 2006, 11:50

I thought Psycho was an "engie-bengy" (for those of you who dont get this please hang around a 4 year old for a while and you'll know).

kURETI · 11th October 2006, 20:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by staten1

basicaly you have been taken for a ride, your problems could be one of the following.
bad quality products(fake, grey market products, bad quality stuff etc)
bad installation job
configuration does not match or support ur setup
job done by some barber or butcher
poor quality of installatio and bad grounding therefore ur battery was getting drained out.
now remember u cannot ask a milk man to brew u some vine so go to a certified installer to get ur job done.
there are 2 good guys in this business
1. eb bass - mr assif. no9886323371 kumarapark bangalore
2. auto fusion -mr anwar .no9886037737 koramangala bangalore

good luck and dont let a butcher become ur barber

sorry to say !
even the best installers make mistakes, the problem was distortion - most installer after examining wiring system they recomend to change wiring first, here the installer should have checked by placing an other amp to rule out the possibility of amp fault and then should have changed to an other headunit just to cross check if the headunit is also ok then he should have taken a call of replacing the wiring system.

with bad install even the best quality wire and interconnects take a toss.

navin · 12th October 2006, 12:51

Lancer, I am closing this thread it seems to have run its course. PM me if you need to open it.

6th October 2006, 19:38	#1
lancer_maniac BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bengaluruu Posts: 236 Thanked: 177 Times	bad experience with sprocket..!! went with my Sfxi with a wiring problem for my stereo (pioneer hunit,444 xploid amp with pioneer 4 way speakers) to sprocket...the problem was some kind of distortion from speakers and the battery's were getting drained due to some kind of short..the sprocket guys said to change the whole wiring and i ended up spending 2000 bucks..(1200 for the set of wires and 800 rs labour charge)..and u know what still the distortion is there...when enquired they telling me now the prob is with the amp...Think i been taken for a drive here...Also only the amp wires have been changed which i got to know nly after they finishd the work whereas i thought the wiring kit inludes all the wires needed for the system....just the AMP wires cost 1200???im not sure...bhpians plz help me...also any idea wat maybe the prob...really confused wat to do now...
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7th October 2006, 09:34	#2
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,196 Thanked: 9,296 Times	a) what is a SFxi? We dont know engines vengines here! b) what sort of distortion? c) why not use the "replace" method. i.e: check the HU in another system then check the amp in another system and lastly the speakers (each component should be check individually d) what wires did they use? the amp has 3 sets of wires (a) RCA wires that come from the HU (b) speaker wires that go to the speaker (c) power wires that come fromt the battery which of these did they change?
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7th October 2006, 11:38	#3
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,997 Thanked: 2,378 Times View My Garage	Navin, See his name na? What car do you think he drives? lol Wiring kits are generally for the amp. What wires can you change in the HU? I think what you call distortion may be alternator whine. Ask the guys to lower the gains on the amps and do let us know what brand kit you have purchased. Is your battery still getting drained? Go back to sprocket. Ask for their chief installer, John. Tell him you're a friend of mine. He will sort you out.
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7th October 2006, 12:45	#5
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,347 Thanked: 27 Times	Now, that's what we call a real help from Sam. And 1200 for an amp wiring kit is not much. What brand did you get? Please dont say it's a BOSS. Next time, drive to Cochin rather than Bangalore for your audio.
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10th October 2006, 11:34	#9
NIP Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,180 Thanked: 152 Times View My Garage	pardon my ignorance, but are BOSS wiring kits really that bad ?! what are the other entry level wiring kits available and their costs !?
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10th October 2006, 12:57	#10
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,196 Thanked: 9,296 Times	I like to recommend Monster's Intrerlink Jr. and Twister. A pair of RCA cables from either of these would run you rs. 1200-1400.
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10th October 2006, 20:37	#11
lancer_maniac BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bengaluruu Posts: 236 Thanked: 177 Times	thanx for the advices bhpians..so i think i will give it one more try by going back to sprocket....and by the way battery is not getting drained now.....atleast one prob is solved....who do u think is good in electric works in blr? have some more work in my Lancer like the power window is getting weaker...any idea how much the motor comes..
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11th October 2006, 11:50	#13
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,196 Thanked: 9,296 Times	I thought Psycho was an "engie-bengy" (for those of you who dont get this please hang around a 4 year old for a while and you'll know). Last edited by navin : 11th October 2006 at 11:51.
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12th October 2006, 12:51	#15
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,196 Thanked: 9,296 Times	Lancer, I am closing this thread it seems to have run its course. PM me if you need to open it.
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