Pioneer 5850 with Ipod

garcons · 14th November 2006, 19:10

Howdy people,

I installed a Pioneer 5850 in my car. I'm wondering how i can get an Ipod working with it without buying anything expensive.

I did go through this site and read that i would need to buy an iTrip, but that again would be costly.

Any inputs please....

Cheers

hydrashok · 14th November 2006, 19:36

Buddy, don't buy an iTrip. The output over FM is baaaaaad! I was foolish enough to buy one when I bought my iPod 2 years back. I used it once or twice, and have never used it since. It used to be 5.2K then. Dunno how much now. If you can spend 3.5k, you should be able to get a proper pioneer iPod interface. It will charge your iPod as you use it, and you will be able to control it from your HU. And the sound will be as good as regular mp3 cd.

For the cheapest option, get a good MX brand stereo-to-rca cable and get the rca end connected to your HU's aux in. The sound will be as good as the interface. Only, you'll need to work directly on the iPod, and you'll need to charge it separately. The best quality MX runs to 250/-. I'm using one now for the same purpose. You'll also get the same type of cable at prices from 25/- onwards from any electronics store.

hydrashok · 14th November 2006, 20:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by hydrashok

If you can spend 3.5k, you should be able to get a proper pioneer iPod interface.

EDIT: Buddy, I think the pio interface runs to 5.5k, not 3.5k. Sorry 'bout that :-)

navin · 14th November 2006, 21:08

Most ipod cables offer limited control over the ipod. For many of us it is enough. For those who want more control and have deeper pockects there are products like Harman Kardon's Drive and Play.

Ad1tya · 14th November 2006, 21:09

A Simple way, but with a little loss of quality is, you can buy a 3.5mm Jack to Tape converter. I just bought 1 today, for 250 Rs. Theres a lil' tape hiss, but its livable with.

Its a temp. solution until I get my Car Audio fully done..

Mugen_Power · 14th November 2006, 21:48

You have two options.

1) DIY cheap project Suggested by hydrashok.

2) Get an Ipod CDIB100II adapter for 5.5K. You can browse songs from HU and ipod will be charged via same cable. But Does 5850 Ipod Ready ??

esteem_lover · 15th November 2006, 12:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ad1tya

A Simple way, but with a little loss of quality is, you can buy a 3.5mm Jack to Tape converter. I just bought 1 today, for 250 Rs. Theres a lil' tape hiss, but its livable with.

Its a temp. solution until I get my Car Audio fully done..

Isn't that what hydrashok is talking about ? are you saying there is a hissing sound in it ? hydrashok, please clarify .

hydrashok · 15th November 2006, 21:22

Nope, e_l. Ad1tya got a 3.5mm Jack to Tape converter. That is, there is a dummy cassette thingy at one end and a regular 3.5mm jack at the other. The 3.5mm jack goes into the iPod and the cassette-thing goes into the tape deck. This is not what I was talking about.

I was talking about a 3.5mm jack to RCA connector. The 3.5mm jack goes into the iPod, and the RCA jacks go into the HU's AUX-in. No loss of SQ whatever. I'd recommend this anytime.

I'd used Ad1tya's setup with a Discman back in the days of yore :-) (OK, 4 years back). It works ok, except for the hiss when you turn the volume up. And if the cassette thing is of bad quality, the twin hub things that turn (the gear-like things) make a big racket when they turn. Used to drive me mad and made me get my first CD Changer.

jkdas · 18th January 2007, 12:03

hows to active the aux-in (6850 HU)

angelfire · 18th January 2007, 13:16

Go to initial setting menu by pressing audio or function button for more than two sec...with the HU being OFF...there wil be an AUX option..turn it on by pressing down arrow...you are good to go..
once you connect a player to aux-in..select aux..by pressing source...You are done!!

Vid6639 · 18th January 2007, 13:59

turn it off. press function button. navigate to AUX. switch to on mode.

rsjaurr · 18th January 2007, 14:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by hydrashok

Nope, e_l. Ad1tya got a 3.5mm Jack to Tape converter. That is, there is a dummy cassette thingy at one end and a regular 3.5mm jack at the other. The 3.5mm jack goes into the iPod and the cassette-thing goes into the tape deck. This is not what I was talking about.

Hydra,will this tape-converter thing help me if i add a cassette player [HU] to my ICE system?

navin · 18th January 2007, 14:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsjaurr

Hydra,will this tape-converter thing help me if i add a cassette player [HU] to my ICE system?

Doc, an ipod cable is a lot cheaper than a tape deck. I think you have an alpine HU that plays CDs Right? if you are not using cassette otherwise why add the complexity. Were you thinking of this - ipod via casstte adapter to cassette player, cassette player via Aux in to CD HU.

rsjaurr · 18th January 2007, 15:57

navin,i dont have i-pod yet

though i plan to get one in near future.
Actually i want to use my casettes in ICE and for that i have 2 options ....

1.Use my sony/phillips walkman but then i need Ai-net cable and something to power walkman from 12v output of car.Can also use AA batteries.
2.Install cassette player HU and connect its power/ground wire to alpine HU but what about remote turn-on wire for cassette HU?AFAIK i may not need it.
If there is cassette HU which has aux out,then i can connect these two HU via this Ai-net cable.Right?

But my main problem is finding ai-net cable.Few months back,LBM told me thats its available for 650/Rs [later 'revised' to 1000/Rs] in New Delhi but its easier for me to get it from states than New Delhi.

navin · 19th January 2007, 14:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsjaurr

navin,i dont have i-pod yet

though i plan to get one in near future.
Actually i want to use my casettes in ICE and for that i have 2 options

Your 3rd option is to rip your cassetes to Hard disk and then use an ipod or other hard disk based player. remember you dont have to rip to MP3 there are lots of nicer formats out there.

14th November 2006, 19:10	#1
garcons Newbie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bombay Posts: 1 Thanked: 0 Times	Howdy people, I installed a Pioneer 5850 in my car. I'm wondering how i can get an Ipod working with it without buying anything expensive. I did go through this site and read that i would need to buy an iTrip, but that again would be costly. Any inputs please.... Cheers
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14th November 2006, 19:36	#2
hydrashok Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In my Office Posts: 2,528 Thanked: 17 Times View My Garage	Buddy, don't buy an iTrip. The output over FM is baaaaaad! I was foolish enough to buy one when I bought my iPod 2 years back. I used it once or twice, and have never used it since. It used to be 5.2K then. Dunno how much now. If you can spend 3.5k, you should be able to get a proper pioneer iPod interface. It will charge your iPod as you use it, and you will be able to control it from your HU. And the sound will be as good as regular mp3 cd. For the cheapest option, get a good MX brand stereo-to-rca cable and get the rca end connected to your HU's aux in. The sound will be as good as the interface. Only, you'll need to work directly on the iPod, and you'll need to charge it separately. The best quality MX runs to 250/-. I'm using one now for the same purpose. You'll also get the same type of cable at prices from 25/- onwards from any electronics store. Last edited by hydrashok : 14th November 2006 at 19:39.
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14th November 2006, 21:08	#4
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,199 Thanked: 9,307 Times	Most ipod cables offer limited control over the ipod. For many of us it is enough. For those who want more control and have deeper pockects there are products like Harman Kardon's Drive and Play.
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14th November 2006, 21:09	#5
Ad1tya BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 99 Thanked: 98 Times View My Garage	A Simple way, but with a little loss of quality is, you can buy a 3.5mm Jack to Tape converter. I just bought 1 today, for 250 Rs. Theres a lil' tape hiss, but its livable with. Its a temp. solution until I get my Car Audio fully done..
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14th November 2006, 21:48	#6
Mugen_Power Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gujarat 03 Posts: 1,302 Thanked: 18 Times	You have two options. 1) DIY cheap project Suggested by hydrashok. 2) Get an Ipod CDIB100II adapter for 5.5K. You can browse songs from HU and ipod will be charged via same cable. But Does 5850 Ipod Ready ??
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15th November 2006, 21:22	#8
hydrashok Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In my Office Posts: 2,528 Thanked: 17 Times View My Garage	Nope, e_l. Ad1tya got a 3.5mm Jack to Tape converter. That is, there is a dummy cassette thingy at one end and a regular 3.5mm jack at the other. The 3.5mm jack goes into the iPod and the cassette-thing goes into the tape deck. This is not what I was talking about. I was talking about a 3.5mm jack to *RCA* connector. The 3.5mm jack goes into the iPod, and the RCA jacks go into the HU's AUX-in. No loss of SQ whatever. I'd recommend this anytime. I'd used Ad1tya's setup with a Discman back in the days of yore :-) (OK, 4 years back). It works ok, except for the hiss when you turn the volume up. And if the cassette thing is of bad quality, the twin hub things that turn (the gear-like things) make a big racket when they turn. Used to drive me mad and made me get my first CD Changer.
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18th January 2007, 12:03	#9
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	hows to active the aux-in (6850 HU)
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18th January 2007, 13:16	#10
angelfire BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Mangalore/Chicago Posts: 251 Thanked: Once View My Garage	Go to initial setting menu by pressing audio or function button for more than two sec...with the HU being OFF...there wil be an AUX option..turn it on by pressing down arrow...you are good to go.. once you connect a player to aux-in..select aux..by pressing source...You are done!!
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18th January 2007, 13:59	#11
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,730 Thanked: 43,483 Times View My Garage	turn it off. press function button. navigate to AUX. switch to on mode.
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18th January 2007, 15:57	#14
rsjaurr BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Batala Posts: 777 Thanked: 28 Times	navin,i dont have i-pod yet though i plan to get one in near future. Actually i want to use my casettes in ICE and for that i have 2 options .... 1.Use my sony/phillips walkman but then i need Ai-net cable and something to power walkman from 12v output of car.Can also use AA batteries. 2.Install cassette player HU and connect its power/ground wire to alpine HU but what about remote turn-on wire for cassette HU?AFAIK i may not need it. If there is cassette HU which has aux out,then i can connect these two HU via this Ai-net cable.Right? But my main problem is finding ai-net cable.Few months back,LBM told me thats its available for 650/Rs [later 'revised' to 1000/Rs] in New Delhi but its easier for me to get it from states than New Delhi. Last edited by rsjaurr : 18th January 2007 at 16:02.
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