ICE Troubleshooting - No sound from speakers.

uttamc · 14th June 2007, 10:05

hey guys,

so i hooked up an ICE in my new palio stile 1.6 - pioneer HU, 5 inch blaupunkts in front and 6 X 9 blaupunkts in the rear.

Now i've been having this problem.

Basically, the music system was working perfectly the night before last, then yday morning when i turned on the car - the cd loads, i can select the track, i see the track time ticking on, but no sound from speakers. I try the radio, i can select channels, but again no sound from speakers....

Weird huh...

So i decide to leave work early n take the car to the guys who fitted it -

Turn on the car in the afternoon and everything's working fine!!! Anyway, i took the car for the guy to check out the wiring - he said everything's okay (as in, wiring's fine) and he said if the wiring was messed, even the HU won't work.

Anyway, so i enjoyed the music last evening.

This morning, i turn on the car and same story!?!?!?

Anyone experienced the same thing?? I dunno if it's got something with a cold engine (i dont see how engine can affect the music system) - its got nothing to do with turning on the car lights either. Battery issue??

Oh yeah, when i turn on the HU i hear a small click from the front left speakers - thats all - then onwards, silence is golden.

Anyone experience a similar problem? Or any suggestions?

low_bass_makker · 14th June 2007, 10:50

I think there is a problem in the HU get it check thoroughly...

Bass&Trouble · 14th June 2007, 11:02

Also, run another check to see that no speaker wires are shorting, touching the car chassis anywhere.

Sam Kapasi · 14th June 2007, 11:14

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Originally Posted by Bass&Trouble

Also, run another check to see that no speaker wires are shorting, touching the car chassis anywhere.

100% with B&T, undo your speakers and insulate the connectors from the chassis.

speedzak · 14th June 2007, 11:20

Don't take what your installer scraps about wiring. It is causing the problem for sure.

uttamc · 14th June 2007, 11:29

Thanks for the quick response guys, the thing is - the car came pre-wired for 6 speakers by fiat. So now i have 2 options

1. Get fiat to check it out
2. Get the installer to put in new high grade wire instead.

Any idea if i'd lose my warranty for putting in new wiring??

navin · 14th June 2007, 12:46

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Originally Posted by uttamc

2. Get the installer to put in new high grade wire instead.

Any idea if i'd lose my warranty for putting in new wiring??

you wont loose you warranty and dont use BOSS wires, they are not high grade no matter what your installer tells you.

hydrashok · 14th June 2007, 13:29

Looooong shot. But is there any way moisture could have gotten into the HU? That could be why it works later in the day when its hotter. Like I said, looooooong shot.

Else, like the other said, it has to be a short of some kind.

Bass&Trouble · 14th June 2007, 14:13

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Originally Posted by hydrashok

Looooong shot. But is there any way moisture could have gotten into the HU? That could be why it works later in the day when its hotter. Like I said, looooooong shot.

Else, like the other said, it has to be a short of some kind.

Yeah, right out of the park it sure is.

With moisture in the HU these arent the only symptoms you'll be getting. And if its on the lens, which is more common, the discs wouldnt be read.

DerAlte · 14th June 2007, 14:24

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Originally Posted by hydrashok

Looooong shot. But is there any way moisture could have gotten into the HU? That could be why it works later in the day when its hotter. Like I said, looooooong shot.

Else, like the other said, it has to be a short of some kind.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bass&Trouble

Yeah, right out of the park it sure is.

With moisture in the HU these arent the only symptoms you'll be getting. And if its on the lens, which is more common, the discs wouldnt be read.

Not really that much out of the park:
1. It is possible that in the cold state, a component is not making contact, but after driving some distance it makes (or when the innards of the HU warm up)
2. If it is loose contact, driving vibrations are taking care of it, as well as undoing it. If everything else is working OK, perhaps the connector block carrying the speaker wires is not inserted all the way in, causing the intemittence

Best way to check would be to give the rear connectors a real good shake to see if the problem shows up / goes away

navin · 14th June 2007, 20:14

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Originally Posted by DerAlte

Not really that much out of the park:
Best way to check would be to give the rear connectors a real good shake to see if the problem shows up / goes away

but the front speakers are working right?

navin · 14th June 2007, 20:19

ok try this. lave car off for say few hours in the evening. then after dinner try the HU again. if it works it is not a cold problem.

uttamc · 14th June 2007, 21:02

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Originally Posted by navin

ok try this. lave car off for say few hours in the evening. then after dinner try the HU again. if it works it is not a cold problem.

will try that tonight n let you know... its 9 pm and the car's been off for about 1.5 hours now - will try at 11 at night.

uttamc · 15th June 2007, 00:04

okay tried it out... checked the music system with the engine completely cold and after having the car off for 3.5 hours... the music system worked perfectly.

Will try again tomorrow morning... this is confusing!

DerAlte · 16th June 2007, 15:42

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Originally Posted by uttamc

okay tried it out... checked the music system with the engine completely cold and after having the car off for 3.5 hours... the music system worked perfectly.

Will try again tomorrow morning... this is confusing!

@Uttamc-bhai, what happened? Is it singing still or did it get laryngitis?

14th June 2007, 10:05	#1
uttamc BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bombay Posts: 62 Thanked: 0 Times	ICE Troubleshooting - No sound from speakers. hey guys, so i hooked up an ICE in my new palio stile 1.6 - pioneer HU, 5 inch blaupunkts in front and 6 X 9 blaupunkts in the rear. Now i've been having this problem. Basically, the music system was working perfectly the night before last, then yday morning when i turned on the car - the cd loads, i can select the track, i see the track time ticking on, but no sound from speakers. I try the radio, i can select channels, but again no sound from speakers.... Weird huh... So i decide to leave work early n take the car to the guys who fitted it - Turn on the car in the afternoon and everything's working fine!!! Anyway, i took the car for the guy to check out the wiring - he said everything's okay (as in, wiring's fine) and he said if the wiring was messed, even the HU won't work. Anyway, so i enjoyed the music last evening. This morning, i turn on the car and same story!?!?!? Anyone experienced the same thing?? I dunno if it's got something with a cold engine (i dont see how engine can affect the music system) - its got nothing to do with turning on the car lights either. Battery issue?? Oh yeah, when i turn on the HU i hear a small click from the front left speakers - thats all - then onwards, silence is golden. Anyone experience a similar problem? Or any suggestions?
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14th June 2007, 10:50	#2
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,815 Thanked: 305 Times View My Garage	I think there is a problem in the HU get it check thoroughly...
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14th June 2007, 11:02	#3
Bass&Trouble Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bombay Posts: 2,754 Thanked: 124 Times	Also, run another check to see that no speaker wires are shorting, touching the car chassis anywhere.
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14th June 2007, 11:20	#5
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,347 Thanked: 27 Times	Don't take what your installer scraps about wiring. It is causing the problem for sure.
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14th June 2007, 11:29	#6
uttamc BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bombay Posts: 62 Thanked: 0 Times	Thanks for the quick response guys, the thing is - the car came pre-wired for 6 speakers by fiat. So now i have 2 options 1. Get fiat to check it out 2. Get the installer to put in new high grade wire instead. Any idea if i'd lose my warranty for putting in new wiring??
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14th June 2007, 13:29	#8
hydrashok Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In my Office Posts: 2,528 Thanked: 17 Times View My Garage	Looooong shot. But is there any way moisture could have gotten into the HU? That could be why it works later in the day when its hotter. Like I said, looooooong shot. Else, like the other said, it has to be a short of some kind.
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14th June 2007, 20:19	#12
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,198 Thanked: 9,302 Times	ok try this. lave car off for say few hours in the evening. then after dinner try the HU again. if it works it is not a cold problem.
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15th June 2007, 00:04	#14
uttamc BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bombay Posts: 62 Thanked: 0 Times	okay tried it out... checked the music system with the engine completely cold and after having the car off for 3.5 hours... the music system worked perfectly. Will try again tomorrow morning... this is confusing!
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