Alipne,Clarion or Pioneer...Confused..!!!

DerAlte · 5th July 2007, 13:52

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Originally Posted by low_bass_makker

it is done through the GPS built in the processor.

Pioneer Electronics - Sound. Vision. Soul

Went throught the Owners' and Installation manuals. Interesting gadget, this! Inaccurate, to say the least - it is reverse-calculating the engine RPM from the road speed (can also be deriving it from the ripple on the battery line), so if you are coasting down-hill in idle, it wouldn't know that.

It needs a "speed" signal, which is normally the pulse train that comes from the axle-mounted sensors used by the ABS/VDS and such, so non-ABS vehicles are ruled out. Also, if your vehicle is not in the list of vehicles supported, it is quite an exercise for creating the data table (tyre dia, weight, engine RPM to wheel speed ratio, drivetrain ratios, etc.) which it uses in the calculations.

But - to anyone who can afford to buy it - it provides a nifty set of useful data.

dilipkumar7278 · 5th July 2007, 19:16

Dear Ramie
The said h/u is very good.Regarding AVG-VDP1 I have ordered it from Thailand through Emperor car Accessories,Kochi as it is not available with the authorised Pioneer dealers here.I may be getting it next week.I will be posting pictures of that later.
Cheers
DilipKumar

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Originally Posted by ramie2400

thanx very much guys for your posts,i'd think pioneer will be ok with me as for the price+using,i have never used any other HU than pioneer,only had a sony once in cousins car.
dilipkumar7278 :Could you please post any pic of the HU you are using and any information about the VDP Vehicle Dynamics Processer(I am totally confused about this one)

Thanks a ton Guys:

Ramie

ramie2400 · 5th July 2007, 19:51

@Gunbir Sir:The models you described are highly deep in pockets.Will i have to buy anything extra with the 4950dvd HU for the VDP thing?

@zakaaaaasss:yes bro you can install a VDC mod chip,its been 4years(2003) i have done that in my Pioneer 1280 12cd changer,and till my knowledge mp3 mod chip is not available,the VCD chip costed me somewhere 1200/- in total,works fine,the chip displays Pioneer on screen.

dilipkumar7278 · 8th July 2007, 12:07

Ramie
Here are the pictures.
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[img=http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2461/05072007199tf8.th.jpg]

dilipkumar7278 :Could you please post any pic of the HU you are using and any information about the VDP Vehicle Dynamics Processer(I am totally confused about this one)

Thanks a ton Guys:

Ramie[/quote]

dilipkumar7278 · 10th July 2007, 07:29

Hi all
Finally installed the Processor yesterday by Zuheimi at Emperor Accessories.Its a cool stuff.I could make it work only after 6 hours of fiddling with it.The only problem now is that the electronic antenna in my Lancer is up everytime I start the car.Must find a way for that as it touches the top of my garage. I will be posting pictures soon.
Cheers
Dilip Kumar

speedzak · 10th July 2007, 08:30

Hmmm..... Interesting!
Would like to see the pictures.

And What did Zuhemi had to say about the product? And how was the install? Where you present there the whole time he worked on the car?

DerAlte · 10th July 2007, 14:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by dilipkumar7278

Hi all
Finally installed the Processor yesterday by Zuheimi at Emperor Accessories.Its a cool stuff.I could make it work only after 6 hours of fiddling with it.The only problem now is that the electronic antenna in my Lancer is up everytime I start the car.Must find a way for that as it touches the top of my garage. I will be posting pictures soon.
Cheers
Dilip Kumar

Interesting problem.

- Does this happen even if the HU is off?
- Was it not happening with the old HU?

It is normal behaviour since antenna must go up if HU was in FM the previous time you switched off. BUT if you were in CD or AUX, the HU is supposed to keep the antenna down.

low_bass_makker · 10th July 2007, 14:57

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Originally Posted by DerAlte

It is normal behaviour since antenna must go up if HU was in FM the previous time you switched off. BUT if you were in CD or AUX, the HU is supposed to keep the antenna down.

the pioneer HU does not have a power antenna control wire . but the sony does have

Now alpine has it or not I dont know.

dilipkumar7278 · 10th July 2007, 15:35

Yes Speedzak
I was there the whole day .It was his first installation of AVG-VDP1 that it took around 5hours.The problem was that the system displayed SENSOR LEARNING message the whole time.Also some menu can only be accessed if handbrake is engaged(mainly settings).So cant override handbrake switch.After sometime he asked me to read the manual and try.Only at night did it work ..Today went to him and he disconnected the antenna wire so that the damn thing wont come up.The system as a whole can be termed good,little niggles notwithstanding//

IronWolf · 10th July 2007, 21:13

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Originally Posted by dilipkumar7278

Ramie
Here are the pictures.
[img=http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/5105/05072007197re8.th.jpg]

[img=http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5277/05072007198ud0.th.jpg]

[img=http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2461/05072007199tf8.th.jpg]

dilipkumar7278 :Could you please post any pic of the HU you are using and any information about the VDP Vehicle Dynamics Processer(I am totally confused about this one)

Thanks a ton Guys:

Ramie

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So how much was the Pio Avh-p 5750 Dvd?

And the LCD slides out and back in right? Plays a DVD with both screen out and in?

dilipkumar7278 · 10th July 2007, 21:31

Hi
I bought it from dubai with B&W for 2700 Dirhams.I enquired here and found that the price here is around 60,000 /- for B&W.In grey market it was around 36500.
It plays DVD both ways..
Cheers
Dilip Kumar

dilipkumar7278 · 10th July 2007, 22:03

Here are the pictures

dilipkumar7278 · 10th July 2007, 22:06

Some more

dilipkumar7278 · 10th July 2007, 22:10

ramie2400 · 13th July 2007, 16:54

Hi all so i Finalised for Pioneer AVH-P4950 and got it.Its the same as AVH-5750 all i can say its awesome stuff,Sooner i get time and install in my car.Cheers

ramie

5th July 2007, 19:51	#18
ramie2400 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,903 Thanked: 66 Times View My Garage	@Gunbir Sir:The models you described are highly deep in pockets.Will i have to buy anything extra with the 4950dvd HU for the VDP thing? @zakaaaaasss:yes bro you can install a VDC mod chip,its been 4years(2003) i have done that in my Pioneer 1280 12cd changer,and till my knowledge mp3 mod chip is not available,the VCD chip costed me somewhere 1200/- in total,works fine,the chip displays Pioneer on screen.
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8th July 2007, 12:07	#19
dilipkumar7278 BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: COCHIN Posts: 441 Thanked: 109 Times View My Garage	Pio Avh-p 5750 Dvd Ramie Here are the pictures. [img=http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/5105/05072007197re8.th.jpg] [img=http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5277/05072007198ud0.th.jpg] [img=http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2461/05072007199tf8.th.jpg] dilipkumar7278 :Could you please post any pic of the HU you are using and any information about the VDP Vehicle Dynamics Processer(I am totally confused about this one) Thanks a ton Guys: Ramie[/quote]
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10th July 2007, 07:29	#20
dilipkumar7278 BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: COCHIN Posts: 441 Thanked: 109 Times View My Garage	Avg-vdp1 Hi all Finally installed the Processor yesterday by Zuheimi at Emperor Accessories.Its a cool stuff.I could make it work only after 6 hours of fiddling with it.The only problem now is that the electronic antenna in my Lancer is up everytime I start the car.Must find a way for that as it touches the top of my garage. I will be posting pictures soon. Cheers Dilip Kumar
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10th July 2007, 08:30	#21
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,347 Thanked: 27 Times	Hmmm..... Interesting! Would like to see the pictures. And What did Zuhemi had to say about the product? And how was the install? Where you present there the whole time he worked on the car?
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10th July 2007, 15:35	#24
dilipkumar7278 BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: COCHIN Posts: 441 Thanked: 109 Times View My Garage	Yes Speedzak I was there the whole day .It was his first installation of AVG-VDP1 that it took around 5hours.The problem was that the system displayed SENSOR LEARNING message the whole time.Also some menu can only be accessed if handbrake is engaged(mainly settings).So cant override handbrake switch.After sometime he asked me to read the manual and try.Only at night did it work ..Today went to him and he disconnected the antenna wire so that the damn thing wont come up.The system as a whole can be termed good,little niggles notwithstanding//
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10th July 2007, 21:31	#26
dilipkumar7278 BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: COCHIN Posts: 441 Thanked: 109 Times View My Garage	Pio Avh-p 5750 Dvd Hi I bought it from dubai with B&W for 2700 Dirhams.I enquired here and found that the price here is around 60,000 /- for B&W.In grey market it was around 36500. It plays DVD both ways.. Cheers Dilip Kumar
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10th July 2007, 22:03	#27
dilipkumar7278 BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: COCHIN Posts: 441 Thanked: 109 Times View My Garage	Pio Avh-p 5750 Dvd/avg-vdp1 Here are the pictures
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10th July 2007, 22:06	#28
dilipkumar7278 BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: COCHIN Posts: 441 Thanked: 109 Times View My Garage	Pio Avh-p 5750 Dvd/avg-vdp1 Some more
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10th July 2007, 22:10	#29
dilipkumar7278 BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: COCHIN Posts: 441 Thanked: 109 Times View My Garage	Pio Avh-p 5750 Dvd/avg-vdp1
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13th July 2007, 16:54	#30
ramie2400 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,903 Thanked: 66 Times View My Garage	Hi all so i Finalised for Pioneer AVH-P4950 and got it.Its the same as AVH-5750 all i can say its awesome stuff,Sooner i get time and install in my car.Cheers ramie
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