Team-BHP - 29-lakh rupee audio upgrade | Concert in a Kia Sonet | Installation done at Speedfreaks Chennai
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Probably the Costliest Sonet on the earth.

Kudos for the job well done and you haven't satisfied yourselves alone but ARR too. He always asked people to hear his music in the best setup available.

Hope you get a chance to meet ARR and play him Puthuvellai Mazhai from Roja.

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Originally Posted by kaviprem (Post 5620386)
Guys, Any DSP will NOT perform Digital to Analogue conversion for the Analogue inputs [like 3.5mm, RCA stereo, Balanced].
The DAC response from the OP was to me in the context of USB HD Audio interface. It allows you to connect your Phone via lightining/Type-C to USB cable thus the DSP having DAC makes sense.

I may be wrong but this is from the Brax website unless the converters used for some other purpose?

State-of-the-art Asahi Kasei "Velvet Sound" A/D and D/A converters with a native resolution of 32 Bit
192 kHz sample rate for ultra High-Res audio bandwidth up to 80 kHz

Not looking to stir a hornets nest but the unit also has a digital link (I assume it's an input).

Thanks a lot for such a wonderful response and information. I will
Happily reply to each and every one of them very soon

And regarding this cayin being not so good, again I like them Berger when compared to Astell and kern for the majority of the songs I listen to. A few genre cayin is unbeatable according to me and AK on the others . I have different playlists for them depending on my mood

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Originally Posted by Emvi (Post 5620327)
And I have just one question to ask- Did you have a budget in mind when you set out to upgrade your audio system, or did you simply end up spending whatever it took without pre-planning?

I never plan on an audio upgrade with the budget in mind. Sounds crazy right? I partially am. But I wanted the best and things happened that way regarding the budget. But am I happy ? Yes. Will I do it again? Definitely yes lol:

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Originally Posted by navin (Post 5620393)
1. I have heard several Cayin products (not the source that Flip Flop has but others) and they are quite good. People tend to have a poor opinion of "Chi-Fi" but like anything, if it is made well, it doesn't matter where it is made.

2. The manual states:

"The BIAS-Setting controls the operation mode of the amplifier.
It is continuously adjustable from MIN = Class AB to MAX = Class A. The sound is warmer in Class A mode and more firm
and direct at Class AB mode. Please note that the current consumption and the heat build-up is higher in Class A mode.
The Power rating will not change dependend on BIAS-Setting
."

Note: I have not corrected spelling or grammar in the above quote to preserve the quote.

The part of this statement that surprises me is the last sentence. Given that when any transistor is biased into "Class A," it is carrying a lot more continuous current and hence running a lot hotter, most amplifier manufacturers de-rate their amplifiers depending on the bias current. ReignOfChaos is correct in stating that Single-Ended Class A is the least efficient form of power stage. But these amplifiers are not Single-Ended.
Just so we are on the same page, this is what I refer to as "Single-Ended" and "Push-Pull".
https://www.aikenamps.com/index.php/...gle-ended-mean

Amplifiers that are normally biased at "100W RMS - Class AB" would be "de-rated" by the manufacturer to be "10W RMS - Class A". This is typically what Nelson Pass (aka Threshold and Pass Labs) used to do.

Either Single-Ended or Push-Pull amplifiers can be biased to operate in Class A. The circuit's topology has no relevance to the bias current used here. See this explanation below.
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/t...ration.248363/

It is obvious that these Ground Zero Amplifiers are Push-Pull, and the bias current can be varied to run the transistors cooler (Class AB) or hotter (Class A). The only part I do not get is how the manufacturer can claim to deliver the same power, regardless of bias. The only way they can do this is if the heat dissipation is so efficient that it is designed for Class A.

That’s an excellent read. But I have no idea. But the one thing for sure is, the sound signature improved to my liking as we shifted the bias switch to more A bias. The sound did got warmer. And so did the amp. My 4ch amp which runs on fully biased is so so much hotter than the other so which runs in AB.. and those two powers my mid bass and the sub where it’s actually much more demanding

The thread title should be “Carnival in a Kia Sonet”. Because now your Kia Sonet holds the same value as a Kia Carnival (on paper). The actual value of your set up must be priceless to you.

As a non audiophile who dreads a mesh of aftermarket wiring running beneath the floor carpet, I can not even imagine that such a set up exists.

If ever I am lucky to come across you at a Team-BHP meet etc., I’d love to listen how your set up sounds. Congratulations and wishing you a happy experience with your prized set up. :)

Hi Flipflop,
I thought i have mistaken on seeing the heading 29 lakhs Audio upgrade.
Multiple times i saw it to confirm that i am right reading it.

Great to see the setup of the system. As someone said, you can post some audio file if possible. Since you are in Chennai, surely one day i will try to meet you in person to view your wonderful system.

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Originally Posted by flipflop (Post 5619255)
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I have searched high and low for the best installers in India – having personally visited many teams across many states and cities – Mumbai, Delhi, Kolkatta, Pune, Bangalore, Kochi – [/b]

Firstly, Kudos to you man! I am beyond words but if the pictures do it some justice, then I can only imagine what the sound must be like! Great stuff!

Secondly, I would like to know, based on your research, who is the best in Bangalore? As much as I would love to get mine done by Speedfreaks, I would prefer to get it done closer to home.

Thirdly, if you missed my initial statement, this is some Awesome stuff man!! clap:

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Originally Posted by Cruzn (Post 5620494)
Firstly, Kudos to you man! I am beyond words but if the pictures do it some justice, then I can only imagine what the sound must be like! Great stuff!

Secondly, I would like to know, based on your research, who is the best in Bangalore? As much as I would love to get mine done by Speedfreaks, I would prefer to get it done closer to home.

Thirdly, if you missed my initial statement, this is some Awesome stuff man!! clap:

From my personal experience, in Banglore Mr Anwar from Topgear is too good .

First off, congratulations to OP for this incredible and dream worthy setup. It's not easy to pursue dreams such as this where it costs a ton of money and where you have to constantly justify your purchase to family and society. I have huge respect for you as your post inspires me to work even harder in achieving my dreams.:loveit

Secondly, why do forum members feel the need to attack (gatekeep) others who ask questions? The amount of money (29 lakhs) that OP has spent is mind numbing for most forum members here (myself included) and the questions being asked are not out of jealousy/hatred, but surprise and awe. From whatever i can gather through all the discourse, OP has been happy to answer all kinds of questions, technical and emotional.:thumbs up

Man, this thread is incomplete without a proper video clip with binaural audio, so we can understand what this set up sounds like.

Am sorry I could not reply to all. Firstly thanks for taking your respective time to check out.
About my home set-up. I Dont prefer having a hifi stereo setup at home because once home, I want to spend time with the family. Earlier, before I got married , I had a klipsch THX ultra speakers, processes by a marantz AV receiver and powered by a Sunfire TGA7400 amp in a dedicated room. However, had to change my place of living and ended up selling them

Regarding what happens when I change my car. As I said in my OP I plan on using this vehicle for at least five years. So once I plan to change the car I hope to retain this setup.

Congratulations, flipflop for living your passion! :thumbs up

Very rarely you would see anyone taking such decisions and all that really matters is a happy soul enjoying life on this blue planet. Kudos!

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Originally Posted by Yesterdaysnews (Post 5620328)
I think it works the opposite. Listening to songs while driving keeps you calm, focused and more alert. You also experience far less fatigue at the end of long journeys. That’s my experience!

Listening to music definitely does have the advantages, as you have rightly highlighted, but with high-end audio, in my personal experience, it does distract me :disappointed.
Case in point, I have a Ford Figo on which the audio system is decent, I enjoy listening to music and driving as well.
With my Harrier, the audio system much advanced, and I find myself listening more attentively, fortunately, it does not distract me from driving. But if it were any better, I am sure I would be more engrossed in the music.
Hence, I have consciously decided not to upgrade the audio systems in both my cars.

Similar experience was with using headphones on bike, in my early years of driving I once tried listening to music while riding, but it was way too much distracting as I found myself getting engrossed in the music, didn't cause any accidents or anything, but it was enough for me to give up on the idea.

It's different for everyone :)

This is really amazing. I am an AV enthusiast too and for me, the quality of the audio system in a car is a very important consideration. Unfortunately, most people who review a car omit covering the quality of the audio system or at best, just make a passing remark and this has really made me wonder why given most of us or rather all of us enjoy music - for all music lovers, what can be better than an audio system that faithfully reproduces the music as the musician intended it to be heard?

I haven't been very happy with the HiFi loudspeaker system in my 330i MSport and have toyed with the idea of upgrading either the speakers or the amp or even both and in this connection, I have had a chance to speak to Karthik. He sounded knowledgeable and was even tempted to go in for the upgrade, however, the fear of voiding OEM warranty, final worksmanship (when it is not Karthik but his team who may be less passionate that lay their hands on my car) and any rattles that may crop up which aren't there today that stopped me.

BTW, how would you rate your sound quality to the Volvo XC60's? From my own listening experience and based on other knowledgeable reviewers, this one's a great quality OEM audio system by Bowers and Wilkins and probably the only one that sounds superb and sublime without the need for any aftermarket upgrades.

Amazing! This is now on the Times of India portal as well - https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/.../103492032.cms

Wow, this is mind-blowing, brother! You must have a real passion for audio quality to achieve something like this!!

I think I live more in the car than at home. So to make it an absolute haven makes sense. Congratulations on your gutsy move. Love it!


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