The time has come.
After browsing the ICE section for months together, I finally feel that it time to upgrade the ICE in my lancer.
I am now in Amsterdam and was contemplating picking up some stuff here in Amsterdam. I posted for some help
Here but the advice from derAlte and Navin made me change my mind. However I still keep getting thoughts , whether I should buy at least an Alpine HU from here. Yes I owe a travelogue of the “Sincity” to DerAlte as promised but I guess that will take time. Coz I am just too lazy.
I will go to MediaMarkt tomorrow and find out model and prices (only of Alpine HUs. don’t want to get more confused) and post here. Guys please suggest me a decent Alpine HU within a budget of about 10 or 12K INR / 200 EUR (But do read on for my confusion on this later on)
I haven’t really posted much (guess that explains my newbie status yet).
I always felt like I know nothing about ICE after reading the post of gurus like Sam, Navin and LBM , B&T ,Hydrashok ,DerAlte and ah yes LBM paaji through their cubic feet calculations, wire gauge impedances and octave nudges to boost a certain frequency freq range and band pass filters to squeeze that last bit of SQ .
All said.
My budget for now is 25K not a rupee more. Don’t want to get in to ICE VICE to splurge my Vitamin M. I really wonder how I m going to convince that I am spending 25K on just “dhinchak dhinchak” music for my car. Well dhinchak dhinchak not really.
I am coming back to India sometime mid June. My lancer is hibernating waiting to go on a long drive with me. But before I take her anywhere it time for ICE upgrade. I have 2 days before I rejoin office in Pune so need to get her back in shape and rocking…. So here start my hunt for advice in ICEing my Lancer
My existing setup - got this went I picked my lancer.
Pioneer DEH3550MP- simple mp3 cd player 1 preout
Pioneer TS-A6960 6x9 rear coax
Unknown stupid front coaxes that are so faint that they can hardly be heard.
Music that I listen to
Well. I almost listen to everything that sound good to ears and lift my mood but just to list out.
Rock – Pink Floyd, Metallica, GnR, Linking Park, Iron Maiden, cranberries,
Not rock – right from shakira to Backstreet boys, Enigma, Arabic,
Bollywood, Indipop, Marathi film/album music.
I prefer laid back sound but would love to hear some bright setups if possible . might change my mind and add to the confusion.
But basically the setup should be able to handle anything that I throw at it and not mess up
Plans for the new setup. All with B&W Front compos – (6.5K ) JBL GTO 607C or Illusion EL6.1 6.5” compos ( more inclined towards the Illusions after reading here that they have amazing SQ and are great VFM and should actually be priced around 10Kish) . Moralfibre’s ICE thread also impressed me. I assume that the Lancer stock positions will support the 6.5” compos. I want them to look like a stock install as much as possible.
Rear – Retain the existing 6x9 coax considering they would be running off the HU most of the time and in the longer run would be just rear Fills. Would the Pio 6x9 be good for enough for now or I should think of anything else.
Amp – (9K) Prefer a JBL 75.4 but doubt if I would be able to still find one. Will I be able to still pick one with B&W or I have to pick up in grey. If this is unavailable, can someone suggest another one with good SQ in the similar price/feature/power range? I plan to initially run the fronts and rears off the Amp. In the future (1 or 2 months) when I get a sub, I want to run the fronts and sub by the amp and the rears off the HU. Please suggest a good place to fix the amp where it can be easily tweaked as well. I have LPG kit in my lancer so the place behind the seats and between the wheel wells is all taken up. Can I put it on the side just behind the tail lamps? I can arrange a photo for you in a few days from a friend in India .but it will take 2 3 days. Can someone help me find and pick a JBL 75.4 now I can arrange for the dough and collect the amp when I come in India?
HU – Should I retain the existing one? Will it be the weakest link in the chain? Remember it has only one pre-out and in the future if I plan to run a front compos, rear fills and a sub it will probably be not able to give me individual inputs and will a daisy chain of RCAs reduce SQ. If I do retain them I save some dough and can think of a sub but can some jugad be done so that I fits in well into the setup and not hamper SQ. If I do have to get a new HU I found the Pioneer 6090 with USB/aux in to be good. Didnt find a cheaper .... or should i say in my budget alpine HU.
Wiring 2K – I plan to only put an amp now and put a woofer later
Damping – 2K only for the front doors (at least for now). Which brand what price Noisekill/Dynamat? How much sq ft would be required for the lancer front door? From what I see in most installs only the inside part where the door trims are fit are damped with the damping material. is it enough or we need to damp more surfaces
Well if I have to draw 4 surfaces of a door A|B C|D
A – exterior which is painted and we polish
The windows glass comes between side B and C
D- inside door trim side where isee most damping materials being put.
The | being the metal surfaces.
My question is which is the surface do we need to damp. Only D. or B & D.
Installer – FM drive. Read a lot of good about this place. Is there a good installer somewhere on the central line? I stay in thane and if someone who can match his quality of work on the central line I would do it there otherwise I am planning to get it done only at FM drive. How much would an installation cost?
For now looks like my budget is over
Fronts 6.5K
Amp 9K
Wiring – 2K
Damping -2K
Installation – 1K
HU – 4.5
what only 4.5K left for my HU
I am already beyond my budget of 25K …. Damn you guys….. I wonder how you always end up making people spend more….
Sub – I don’t have plans to put a sub right now. Unless I skip the HU. But like to address a few questions and if everything seems fine and I can afford to nudge my budget a bit. But there are more important questions to be sorted out.
I have an LPG kit like I said before and a 60Lit tank that takes a lot of space between the rear wheel wells and behind the seat. I also travel every week to Pune for work and am accompanied by friends, so typically also have a lot of luggage along. I want to make maximum utilization of the boot space so that the sub can be nicely tucked in one side firing sideways (not fouling with the boot lid), amp on the other side of the boot and still have decent place to put at least 3-4 bags in between. I liked the way Navin has his sub aligned to the side in his Skoda. Is there someone who can design a custom enclosure to fit my req.? Can such a custom sub enclosure also be removable when I need to squeeze in more luggages?
Whew that a long long post. I guess it covers most of my ICE requirements. For now.
Gurus please help this confused ICEer get his dream ICE setup.
Mod : sorry for the long post but I wrote it too long to put my impressions and requirements clear.