Subwoofer mounting help needed

normally_crazy · 27th April 2005, 22:57

guys,

in the skoda is it advisible to mount the sub-W on the tray itself or should i get a sub-w box made and keep it in the boot ?

i know having a box in a boot gives me the flexibility of removing it whenever there is luggage but then what i want to know is about the music part !

how will the bass be affected in both scenarios ? which is a better option musically ?

the sub-w is a 12 inch pioneer 340.....

waiting............

jesal · 28th April 2005, 00:16

music wise the woofer in the box is the best way to go for sure.
orelse u got 2 ways to do this. either put on the tray or behind the rear seats. free air you should know how the music is since in the ikon you had the same setup i think. go for the box one and install another woofer as well for the best outcome

autopsyche · 28th April 2005, 00:32

Subs on the tray in a skoda can never give the kinda bass that boxes can. Did two skodas yesterday, one with 3 x 12" woofers in a box, and another one with 2 x 15" on the tray. And the box sounded so much better anyday. The tray doesnt provide any kinda enclousre to subs at all inspite of the big boot and the end result is weakened bass. And like jesal said, id suggest a second sub too. What amps are u planning to use anyway?

bhp · 28th April 2005, 01:37

n_c one of my friend s has 2 12'' sub s in a custom made boom box in his boot . believe me u should also go for it bcoz it kicks good bass

Sahil · 28th April 2005, 01:47

I have a sub woofer box fitted in the trunk of my accord.... no ways was i going to cut the tray so this was my best option...have mounted the amp on the woofer box too.... just wonder sometimes which is the correct position to place the woofer in the trunk? Also the good part abt having the box is that i can have it detached (i have the clip system plug)whenever i want to increase boot space.

dragger · 28th April 2005, 07:49

hey buddy ive installed an audio system in a skoda and no way are you going to get the punch out of the woofer when its on the tray...get a box with two air vents on each side and the woofer in the middle..since your installing a pioneer woofer then 944 is the way to go...hehe...cheers...!!

karthik247 · 28th April 2005, 07:56

hey dude...don't mount the sub on the tray...the effect won't be good and the tray will keep vibrating making noise..or replace the OE tray with a wood or something like that...

i my octy tho'..the sub is in the boot...or keep the sub in the boot and remove the tray..i think it'll be better

navin · 28th April 2005, 10:44

tray's are usually flimsy (though made of fiberglass the section is too thin and the tray too large). you would have to make a tray of MDF or marine ply and i doubt if the hatch's hydraulics will be able to carry the weight of the wood board and the sub(s). the advantage of tray mount is that it occupies little space. and you dont have to remove the sub everytime you need the trunk. besides for a tray mount you have to choose a sub that is designed for free air operation.

a box offers a more controlled enviroment. this usually translates to better defnied bass. not i say defnition not volume. however a box takes up room and it is not always convienent to remove the box and put it back when you need the extra room.

3 other alternates.
make a fiberglass mount fot the sub and reinforce the tray with resin bonded fiberglass mat and sheet. this is messy but you can learn more from
http://www.glassmanscustomforum.com/

Use 2 8" bass tubes. this would offer you almost the same response as 1 12". the 8" bass tubes can be tucked into the sides.

lastly if you can lay your hands on MTX's thundeforms the one they make for the Jetta will work for your Octavia. see
http://www.mtxaudio.com/caraudio/pro...es/JETTA10.cfm

what i have done....
Opel Sail - reinforced fiberglass tray with resin bonded fiberglass. the tray now supports 4 6" woofers.
Octavia RS - 2 8" bass tubes.

you might have other choices too. see caraudio.com and carstereo.com for installs done by other car audio accifionados.

moralfibre · 29th April 2005, 16:39

This is how I have setup a woofer in my Zen

nitrous · 29th April 2005, 17:02

guys, can i use a 12" 305F pioneer (free air) sub woofer on an mdf tray in my ikon. the amp wud be a pioneer 6000F. or shud i go for the mdf box. i'm thinking about the tray fitment because the subwoofer is a free air type one. pls. help

iceman91 · 29th April 2005, 17:04

you can put it on the back but need a good plank for it...will not give you the "thump" of a sub in a box....

nitrous · 29th April 2005, 17:35

Quote:

will not give you the "thump" of a sub in a box....

since , its a free air type subwoofer, dont u think that its thump in a free air environment like the tray wud be better than an enclosed area like a box. there is a different version ' 305 C' of the same subwoofer which is meant to be in an enclosure. thats what the C refers to. just my belief. any different theories on this one, ice??

sbfx · 30th April 2005, 21:01

Send me a PM with your mail address I will mail you a pic of my skoda sub box.

Satyam.

navin · 1st May 2005, 23:20

hey sbfx why not post it for everyone's benefit?

bhallachetan · 27th August 2008, 13:41

Dude,

The best way to go forward and get good bass is to get the custom box made for the woofer and also go and put the Acrylic sheet onto the top this would surely give you the kind of Bass you would be looking for hope this would answer a question of your's.

Regards,
Muzik is my passion

27th April 2005, 22:57	#1
normally_crazy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,369 Thanked: 537 Times View My Garage	Subwoofer mounting help needed guys, in the skoda is it advisible to mount the sub-W on the tray itself or should i get a sub-w box made and keep it in the boot ? i know having a box in a boot gives me the flexibility of removing it whenever there is luggage but then what i want to know is about the music part ! how will the bass be affected in both scenarios ? which is a better option musically ? the sub-w is a 12 inch pioneer 340..... waiting............
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28th April 2005, 00:16	#2
jesal BANNED Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,323 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	music wise the woofer in the box is the best way to go for sure. orelse u got 2 ways to do this. either put on the tray or behind the rear seats. free air you should know how the music is since in the ikon you had the same setup i think. go for the box one and install another woofer as well for the best outcome
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28th April 2005, 00:32	#3
autopsyche Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Delhi, Indi Posts: 1,519 Thanked: 35 Times View My Garage	Subs on the tray in a skoda can never give the kinda bass that boxes can. Did two skodas yesterday, one with 3 x 12" woofers in a box, and another one with 2 x 15" on the tray. And the box sounded so much better anyday. The tray doesnt provide any kinda enclousre to subs at all inspite of the big boot and the end result is weakened bass. And like jesal said, id suggest a second sub too. What amps are u planning to use anyway?
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28th April 2005, 01:37	#4
bhp BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: lokhandwala mumbai Posts: 840 Thanked: 170 Times View My Garage	n_c one of my friend s has 2 12'' sub s in a custom made boom box in his boot . believe me u should also go for it bcoz it kicks good bass
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28th April 2005, 01:47	#5
Sahil Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 6,322 Thanked: 7,767 Times	I have a sub woofer box fitted in the trunk of my accord.... no ways was i going to cut the tray so this was my best option...have mounted the amp on the woofer box too.... just wonder sometimes which is the correct position to place the woofer in the trunk? Also the good part abt having the box is that i can have it detached (i have the clip system plug)whenever i want to increase boot space.
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28th April 2005, 07:49	#6
dragger BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: India-Mumbai-Colaba Posts: 350 Thanked: 6 Times	hey buddy ive installed an audio system in a skoda and no way are you going to get the punch out of the woofer when its on the tray...get a box with two air vents on each side and the woofer in the middle..since your installing a pioneer woofer then 944 is the way to go...hehe...cheers...!!
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28th April 2005, 07:56	#7
karthik247 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR, HYD Posts: 2,710 Thanked: 30 Times	hey dude...don't mount the sub on the tray...the effect won't be good and the tray will keep vibrating making noise..or replace the OE tray with a wood or something like that... i my octy tho'..the sub is in the boot...or keep the sub in the boot and remove the tray..i think it'll be better
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28th April 2005, 10:44	#8
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,324 Thanked: 9,513 Times	tray's are usually flimsy (though made of fiberglass the section is too thin and the tray too large). you would have to make a tray of MDF or marine ply and i doubt if the hatch's hydraulics will be able to carry the weight of the wood board and the sub(s). the advantage of tray mount is that it occupies little space. and you dont have to remove the sub everytime you need the trunk. besides for a tray mount you have to choose a sub that is designed for free air operation. a box offers a more controlled enviroment. this usually translates to better defnied bass. not i say defnition not volume. however a box takes up room and it is not always convienent to remove the box and put it back when you need the extra room. 3 other alternates. make a fiberglass mount fot the sub and reinforce the tray with resin bonded fiberglass mat and sheet. this is messy but you can learn more from http://www.glassmanscustomforum.com/ Use 2 8" bass tubes. this would offer you almost the same response as 1 12". the 8" bass tubes can be tucked into the sides. lastly if you can lay your hands on MTX's thundeforms the one they make for the Jetta will work for your Octavia. see http://www.mtxaudio.com/caraudio/pro...es/JETTA10.cfm what i have done.... Opel Sail - reinforced fiberglass tray with resin bonded fiberglass. the tray now supports 4 6" woofers. Octavia RS - 2 8" bass tubes. you might have other choices too. see caraudio.com and carstereo.com for installs done by other car audio accifionados. Last edited by navin : 28th April 2005 at 10:52.
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29th April 2005, 16:39	#9
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,495 Thanked: 14,119 Times	This is how I have setup a woofer in my Zen
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29th April 2005, 17:02	#10
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 329 Times View My Garage	guys, can i use a 12" 305F pioneer (free air) sub woofer on an mdf tray in my ikon. the amp wud be a pioneer 6000F. or shud i go for the mdf box. i'm thinking about the tray fitment because the subwoofer is a free air type one. pls. help
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29th April 2005, 17:04	#11
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 35 Times View My Garage	you can put it on the back but need a good plank for it...will not give you the "thump" of a sub in a box....
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30th April 2005, 21:01	#13
sbfx BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 75 Thanked: 0 Times	Send me a PM with your mail address I will mail you a pic of my skoda sub box. Satyam.
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1st May 2005, 23:20	#14
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,324 Thanked: 9,513 Times	hey sbfx why not post it for everyone's benefit?
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27th August 2008, 13:41	#15
bhallachetan Newbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Faridabad Posts: 7 Thanked: 0 Times	Dude, The best way to go forward and get good bass is to get the custom box made for the woofer and also go and put the Acrylic sheet onto the top this would surely give you the kind of Bass you would be looking for hope this would answer a question of your's. Regards, Muzik is my passion
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