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Originally Posted by PhX
(Post 2684625)
do you think 2V vs 4V pre-outs should be a major criteria in the decision-making process? |
In one word: NO.
If your installer is sensible you should NOT face any issue with hiss. Most amplifeirs cannot accpet a signal larger than 2V anyway.
Hi gurus, need some help.
I am almost at the verge of starting the phase two of my audio set up. In this phase, I plan to add a 4Ch amp (or if I get it in my budget, one 4Ch + 1 mono). My budget is about 25K (excluding the wiring kit + installation).
My Current setup is Alpine CDA 117 and Rainbow SLG 265.20 F3 Kick components.
I want to add either a 4Ch amp so that I can use 2Ch to run my components and can bridge the other 2 Ch for a sub (which will be added later)
But while browsing for options, I came across this -
Amazon.com: ST4 + ST1 pkg - Zapco 4-Channel and Monoblock Car Amplifiers Package: Car Electronics
In a nutshell, for 499$, I can get a 4Ch and a mono Zapco amp. I know the support may be an area of concern (as far as I know, there is no support for Zapco @ India).
Now my question is - Should I go for this or should I spent the amount on some other amp? I am open to suggestions and I am ready to buy it either from Bangalore or from US.
I am not much of an audiophile, and I like my sound clean and my bass tight. Not a fan of trebles, I am looking for a setup which is more oriented towards SQ. Any help will be truly appreciated.
hello everybody,
I am considering buying a Focal P30 sub..
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-3QnhAzd...l#overview-tab
is it good? any specific things i should be looking at?
i was looking at an Infinity kappa 120.9w earlier.. how would the focal compare with that?
thanks
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Originally Posted by theexperthand
(Post 2691122)
Hi gurus, need some help.
I am almost at the verge of starting the phase two of my audio set up. In this phase, I plan to add a 4Ch amp (or if I get it in my budget, one 4Ch + 1 mono). My budget is about 25K (excluding the wiring kit + installation).
My Current setup is Alpine CDA 117 and Rainbow SLG 265.20 F3 Kick components.
I want to add either a 4Ch amp so that I can use 2Ch to run my components and can bridge the other 2 Ch for a sub (which will be added later)
But while browsing for options, I came across this - Amazon.com: ST4 + ST1 pkg - Zapco 4-Channel and Monoblock Car Amplifiers Package: Car Electronics
In a nutshell, for 499$, I can get a 4Ch and a mono Zapco amp. I know the support may be an area of concern (as far as I know, there is no support for Zapco @ India).
Now my question is - Should I go for this or should I spent the amount on some other amp? I am open to suggestions and I am ready to buy it either from Bangalore or from US.
I am not much of an audiophile, and I like my sound clean and my bass tight. Not a fan of trebles, I am looking for a setup which is more oriented towards SQ. Any help will be truly appreciated. |
Instead of spending 499 USD, check the JBL MS-8. It is available for 500 / 520 USD. Features are amazing and it has a built in 4 channel amp. Suport for JBL is easily available in india.
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Originally Posted by theexperthand
(Post 2691122)
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In a nutshell, for 499$, I can get a 4Ch and a mono Zapco amp... |
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Originally Posted by scopriobharath
(Post 2692375)
Instead of spending 499 USD, check the JBL MS-8. It is available for 500 / 520 USD. Features are amazing and it has a built in 4 channel amp. Suport for JBL is easily available in india.... |
1. Zapco is not a great SQ brand. I'd avoid it for someone who is carefully building a system I'd rather spend on a quality 4 ch. amp and add the mono later (when budget permits).
2. The MS8's amp is 20W/ch. The MS 8 is primarily a DSP for TA and EQ and is designed to equallize and align the sound from OEM HUs. The Amp is a bonus.
3. For 25K you can get a good 4 ch. and mono in India from companies like JBL (same guys who made the MS8), Alpine, Kenwood, or Pioneer.
Thank you, Navin. I am honored to get your reply :)
After some more analysis, the current choices are:
Ground Zero GZIA 4115HPX
Digital Design C4C
Audio System M Line 75.4
Helix B4
The second list of choices are:
JBL GT5-S644
Bull PA4.200
Alpine PMX - F640
I am also looking for the Rainbow Beat amp (as per BBW, we will start getting them by late feb \ early march)
Now, from SQ point of view, what will be the best pick? If there is anything which is better in SQ terms, please tell me.
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Originally Posted by navin
(Post 2692484)
3. For 25K you can get a good 4 ch. and mono in India from companies like JBL (same guys who made the MS8), Alpine, Kenwood, or Pioneer. |
Navin - MS-8 contains decoders, Portable music player (Ipod tuners) etc built in. The amp is just an added feature. MS-8 is preliminarily a sound processor with built-in amps. I felt that instead of buying an amp for 500 USD JBL MS8 can be purchased.
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Originally Posted by theexperthand
(Post 2692521)
After some more analysis, the current choices are:
Ground Zero GZIA 4115HPX
Digital Design C4C
Audio System M Line 75.4
Helix B4
The second list of choices are:
JBL GT5-S644
Bull PA4.200
Alpine PMX - F640
I am also looking for the Rainbow Beat amp (as per BBW, we will start getting them by late feb \ early march)
Now, from SQ point of view, what will be the best pick? If there is anything which is better in SQ terms, please tell me. |
I think you could also consider the Alpine PDX-5 amp..
75w x 4 Full Range + 300w x 1 Sub channel
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-qEARYt7...ine-PDX-5.html
about $330 on amazon..
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Originally Posted by scopriobharath
(Post 2692598)
Navin - MS-8 contains decoders, Portable music player (Ipod tuners) etc built in. The amp is just an added feature. MS-8 is preliminarily a sound processor with built-in amps. I felt that instead of buying an amp for 500 USD JBL MS8 can be purchased. |
Thank you for the inputs, bharat - but in my case, I have Alpine CDA 117, which is a decent HU with TA and other features. As Navin have pointed out, the Amp is just an added feature of MS-8.
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Originally Posted by kanhaiyo
(Post 2692638)
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While the deal looks good on Amazone, it will be out of my reach if I decide to buy it from here. I will keep this model in mind, Thank you Kanhaiyo.
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Originally Posted by scopriobharath
(Post 2692598)
Navin - MS-8 contains decoders, Portable music player..I felt that instead of buying an amp for 500 USD JBL MS8 can be purchased. |
Sure the MS-late is a good product but it is primarily designed to "de-process" the OEM HU's processing (usualy eq and sometimes compression) and then "re-process" the signal with TA, EQ, etc... to suit Andy's team's vision.
OT: I find most of these processors (have not heard the Bit one) have a processing altorithim that is a bit bright (in tone) and not as accurate in bass management as one could achieve with the human ear. Yes they solve 95% of the problems. However that makes the remaining 5% even more obvious.
Guys which components should I get for my Honda City Type 2?
I am not intended to purchase JBL or Rockford fosgate.I prefer more of the laid back sound than the high on treble sound.
My budget is around 6-7k.
The compos will be run by a JBL1004
Hey gurus,
I have a 2008 Waggie and my current setup includes a pair of Pioneer 500W 6*9s and a JBL basstube(CS-1215T) both running off a Sony 4 channel amp.
Yea, I know the amp is not good, but I got it for real cheap, so I took it up.
The problem is that the sub is way too loud, so I can't get enough treble.
I need more treble in my car, so I think a pair of components will help.
Now, the Waggie only has space to keep a pair of 4" speakers in the front, no space for 6" components.
So which would be a good choice for me? I'm open to any brand, just as long as I get some treble in the front.
Oh, I have a budget o around 5k.
Thanks!!
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Originally Posted by Speed.Demon
(Post 2698085)
Hey gurus,
I have a 2008 Waggie and my current setup includes a pair of Pioneer 500W 6*9s and a JBL basstube(CS-1215T) both running off a Sony 4 channel amp.
Yea, I know the amp is not good, but I got it for real cheap, so I took it up.
The problem is that the sub is way too loud, so I can't get enough treble.
I need more treble in my car, so I think a pair of components will help.
Now, the Waggie only has space to keep a pair of 4" speakers in the front, no space for 6" components.
So which would be a good choice for me? I'm open to any brand, just as long as I get some treble in the front.
Oh, I have a budget o around 5k.
Thanks!! |
4" Components are not easy to find in the market. The last I heard were from Kicker, but even they are not easily available. You could go in for 4" co-axial in the stock location along with a pair of tweeters, probably placed on the dashboard.
You could try driving the front speakers from the Amp for a better sound stage. Rear could be driven directly by the HU.
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Originally Posted by mashmash
(Post 2698115)
4" Components are not easy to find in the market. The last I heard were from Kicker, but even they are not easily available. You could go in for 4" co-axial in the stock location along with a pair of tweeters, probably placed on the dashboard.
You could try driving the front speakers from the Amp for a better sound stage. Rear could be driven directly by the HU. |
Are 4" co axials good enough?? I mean, do they have adequate treble?
I really do like 6.5" compos, but the thought of drilling open a huge hole in the car's door scares me!
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Originally Posted by Speed.Demon
(Post 2698135)
Are 4" co axials good enough?? I mean, do they have adequate treble?
I really do like 6.5" compos, but the thought of drilling open a huge hole in the car's door scares me! |
4" Coaxial are just OK. Cannot be compared with 6.5" compos.
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