[navin]

Originally Posted by shashank.nk

Is the lack of slickness mainly due to resistive touch compared to capacitive touch.

Originally Posted by shreyak_ss

but the sony has a capacitive touch screen whereas pioneer has resistive.

Shashank, As Shreyak has mentioned, it is the Sony that has the Capacitive touch screen (which has better touch sensitivity and supports multi-touch) while the Pioneer has Resistive touch (which is hardier and has higher resistance to dust and water). I would think the Sony (and by that extension the Blaupunkt which also has capacitive touch) would be slicker than the Pioneer.

I suspect hence, it is the Pioneer's software/firmware that makes it slicker, despite it having resistive touch.

[shashank.nk]

Originally Posted by navin

I suspect hence, it is the Pioneer's software/firmware that makes it slicker, despite it having resistive touch.

So it's a bit of both, capacitive touch with a better OS ?

In that case the JVC unit is also probably ruled out, considering it only has resistive touch, despite having a plethora of settings. So Sony emerges on top considering its tried and tested and probably will sound a little better compared to blaupunkt ?

[navin]

Originally Posted by shashank.nk

So it's a bit of both, capacitive touch with a better OS ?

In that case the JVC unit is also probably ruled out, considering it only has resistive touch, despite having a plethora of settings. So Sony emerges on top considering its tried and tested and probably will sound a little better compared to blaupunkt ?

No sir. What I meant to ask is, "is the Pioneer software/firmware is so much better that even with a less sensitive touch panel (aka Resistive) it is slicker"? It is the Sony, Kenwood and Blaupunkt that are capacitive touch.

In a car stereo I don't know if having capacitive touch is a significant advantage (I mean do you really need the sensitivity or multi-touch).

I think it is software/firmware is what separates the best from the good.

[shashank.nk]

Originally Posted by navin

No sir. What I meant to ask is, "is the Pioneer software/firmware is so much better that even with a less sensitive touch panel (aka Resistive) it is slicker"? It is the Sony, Kenwood and Blaupunkt that are capacitive touch.

Sorry if I've misunderstood, but wasn't shreyak complaining about the Pioneer unit being laggy ? I was trying to understand if it was the touch which made him feel that way or it was the OS itself, when I re-read his post he's mentioned its the OS which is to blame. Quoting the relevant bit here,

I got the pioneer since my installer...snip......After 1 month of usage I feel that the system is just okay and it does lag and is nowhere as slick as our smartphones or some of the good oem HUs but it gets the job done.

In a car stereo I don't know if having capacitive touch is a significant advantage (I mean do you really need the sensitivity or multi-touch).
I think it is software/firmware is what separates the best from the good.

I used to think the same too, until I used Google maps via Android Auto on the HU, capacitive touch made it so much easier to zoom into or out of specific points on the map and felt no different to using my smartphone. I've not tried it with a resistive touch unit, but doubt if it can match up.

[shreyak_ss]

Originally Posted by shashank.nk

Sorry if I've misunderstood, but wasn't shreyak complaining about the Pioneer unit being laggy ? ,

Originally Posted by navin

In a car stereo I don't know if having capacitive touch is a significant advantage (I mean do you really need the sensitivity or multi-touch).

I think it is software/firmware is what separates the best from the good.

Over the last 1 month since I bought it, my usage has been mostly restricted to android auto. I feel it would have been much better to use if the touch was capacitive. For normal stereo functions like using iPod or just bluetooth, the system works fine and the touch response is satisfactory. Infact the Bluetooth connection is pretty fast and the UI as such is decent and it won't be very different from sony.

[aravindwarrier]

Can someone suggest a pair of warm sounding 6.5" components for my Ignis to go in the front doors? Budget is 5-7k. I like them to have a great midrange. Not particular about bass, and I absolutely detest bright highs. HU is a Blaupunkt San Marino 330, and I have an old 4 channel kenwood Amp with me from the previous car. The doors will be damped.

[navin]

Originally Posted by shreyak_ss

Over the last 1 month since I bought it, my usage has been mostly restricted to android auto.

Originally Posted by shashank.nk

Sorry if I've misunderstood, but wasn't shreyak complaining about the Pioneer unit being laggy ?

Finally Toyota got back to me and told me that the OEM HU is an older version of the Blaupunkt Osaka. It is slightly more rectangular than most Double DIN HUs. However I cant find any model that looks like it using Google. Any help would be appreciated. I am trying to retain the stock look.



This seems to be the newer version
https://www.blaupunkt.com/in/nc/prod.../single/17072/

[shashank.nk]

Originally Posted by navin

Finally Toyota got back to me and told me that the OEM HU is an older version of the Blaupunkt Osaka. [/url]

How would you rate the output of the stock HU ?

The model you've listed (Osaka 760) seems to have a 6.75" screen,same as the NewYork 750. However the 750 comes with wireless carplay which seems to be missing in the Osaka 760, also the pricing of the Osaka at 35000 is quite steep compared to ~19000 of the Newyork 750 unit. I'm assuming both are an easy fit since they're the same screen size as the outgoing unit.

[navin]

Originally Posted by shashank.nk

How would you rate the output of the stock HU ?

Bleh. Then again I have given up on Toyota ever providing a decent sound system in their cars.

Originally Posted by shashank.nk

The model you've listed (Osaka 760) seems to have a 6.75" screen,same as the NewYork 750. However the 750 comes with wireless carplay which seems to be missing in the Osaka 760, also the pricing of the Osaka at 35000 is quite steep compared to ~19000 of the Newyork 750 unit. I'm assuming both are an easy fit since they're the same screen size as the outgoing unit.

I am hoping that the Kenwood 718wbt, 719wbt, 918ws, or 919ws will fit in the same slot without any ugly trim plates needed.

https://www.kenwood.com/india/car/vi...ion/dmx719wbt/
https://www.kenwood.com/india/car/vi...ion/ddx719wbt/
https://www.kenwood.com/india/car/vi...tion/ddx918ws/
https://www.kenwood.com/india/car/vi...tion/ddx919ws/

[shashank.nk]

Originally Posted by navin

Bleh. Then again I have given up on Toyota ever providing a decent sound system in their cars.

I am hoping that the Kenwood 718wbt, 719wbt, 918ws, or 919ws will fit in the same slot without any ugly trim plates needed.

https://www.kenwood.com/india/car/vi...ion/dmx719wbt/
https://www.kenwood.com/india/car/vi...ion/ddx719wbt/
https://www.kenwood.com/india/car/vi...tion/ddx918ws/
https://www.kenwood.com/india/car/vi...tion/ddx919ws/

I think the 900 series is a better bet considering it comes with Android Auto and CarPlay. The 700 series seems to have mirroring only.

[navin]

Originally Posted by shashank.nk

I think the 900 series is a better bet considering it comes with Android Auto and CarPlay. The 700 series seems to have mirroring only.

The 900 series should be better, it is significantly more expensive too.

[Grease_Monkey]

Originally Posted by Grease_Monkey

Hi bhpians,

Does anyone have an idea on the power output of the stock HU of the Alto K10 (Nippon NC67PO)?

I need to improve the sound quality of the system, the stock speakers sound pretty muddy and bass heavy. Planning to install only front components as of now without amp (vit M shortage), any suggestions for speakers that the HU can drive well, looking for warm sound signature with punchy mids and laid back / less harsh highs. After some research, these are the options I was able to finalize on:
1. Morel maximo 6
2. Polk db6501/6502
3. Alpine SPS-610C
4. Infinity reference 6500cx

Any suggestions, my budget is 7k for the speakers, will go for damping and rear 6x9 in stage 2.

Hi Gurus,

After almost 2 years of posting this, I finally decided to upgrade my car audio in phases.

Phase 1: Front components - Morel maximo 6
Phase 2: HU - not decided which yet
Phase 3: Amp and sub

Phase 1: Since my budget was 15k with install (minus damping), I went ahead with Maximo 6 @Auto planet, Koramangala. Met Kartik there, who gave me 1.5 hr class on car ICE. Anyways, getting back to the point, the final price quoted was 11.5k

Morel maximo 6: 9k
Spacer rings x2: 1k
Installation: 1k
Wiring adapter: 0.5k

The crossovers are mounted on the door outside skin using 3M tape, rolled in plastic and taped. While the tweeters are placed on the sail panels above mirror adjustment knobs.

The installer kept insisting on 5ft additional wiring for the tweeters though there is more than sufficient wiring for twice the length required. Though the installer seemed expert, there are certain things I am not happy about.

1. He did not test the polarity of either speakers and closed the door panels before powering on the HU.
2. Will the crossovers in the outer door cause any problems? Although they are sealed tight in plastic bags and taped up
3. Even after keeping eq Flat, and treble at -4, the tweeters sound harsh and in certain songs it hurts my ears. I keep volume low (max 50%).
4. Is there any way to know if the tweeters are at correct polarity? Or not in phase with each other?

Although the mids are punchy and tight, I am sad about the highs - they sound shrill and artificial at times esp. with bollywood songs. Since I still am using stock HU, I can't play around with the eq much too, is there any way to make this system enjoyable till I upgrade to phase 2? Contrary to what I heard, this sounds like a dinchak system which cabbies use.Please help!

[a4anurag]

Originally Posted by Grease_Monkey

Morel maximo 6: 9k.

Morel speakers are slightly brighter out of the box.

Originally Posted by Grease_Monkey

Although the mids are punchy and tight, I am sad about the highs - they sound shrill and artificial at times esp. with bollywood songs.

Did you open the see if the crossover has any settings for the tweeter attenuation?

[Grease_Monkey]

Originally Posted by a4anurag

Morel speakers are slightly brighter out of the box.



Did you open the see if the crossover has any settings for the tweeter attenuation?

Didn't see any switches for tweeter attenuation on the crossovers. I even checked the online manual and installation guide. Do I need to burn them in via white noise to sound better, because my ears hurt even after couple of hours of listening to them

[a4anurag]

Originally Posted by Grease_Monkey

Didn't see any switches for tweeter attenuation on the crossovers. I even checked the online manual and installation guide. Do I need to burn them in via white noise to sound better, because my ears hurt even after couple of hours of listening to them

May sound better after burn-in.

If that doesn't help, try changing the mounting axis of the tweeter. I mean try mounting it 'off-axis'. I think it is 'on-axis' currently, right?