ICING up my bro's Esteem!

mlal000 · 17th September 2009, 19:24

Hey all, I need some help in deciding what all to install in my brother's car. He has a 2000-2001 Esteem. I am thinking of going with an all JBL setup. We live in Delhi and so are probably going to go to Elegant Auto (Lajpat Nagar) or Driven (East of Kailash). I ICED up my Swift in 2007 from Elegant and it was a good experience. Since I have been out of the loop for a while now, kindly suggest what model speakers (front and back), sub, head unit, etc. can be installed in his Esteem. His budget is between 35-40k. If you could also let me know any other good shops to buy and install this stuff from, that would be great. Waiting on your suggestions!

P.S. - He's chucking away his old speakers and head unit. This is going to be a completely new setup.

frankmehta · 18th September 2009, 00:39

Pioneer/Kenwood/Alpine head unit : 7 k
JBL GTO1004 Amplifier: 11-12 k
JBL GTO608C: 5-6 k
JBL GT5S12+ enclosure: 4 k + 1.5 k
Install + JBL wiring Kit+ RCAs: 5k

Easy as 1-2-3. All prices mentioned are authorized JBL price with warranty (but i have factored in the general discount)

shreyasma · 18th September 2009, 01:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankmehta

Pioneer/Kenwood/Alpine head unit : 7 k
JBL GTO1004 Amplifier: 11-12 k
JBL GTO608C: 5-6 k
JBL GT5S12+ enclosure: 4 k + 1.5 k
Install + JBL wiring Kit+ RCAs: 5k

Easy as 1-2-3. All prices mentioned are authorized JBL price with warranty (but i have factored in the general discount)

+1 for Frank's suggestion.

mlal000 · 18th September 2009, 20:51

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Originally Posted by frankmehta

Pioneer/Kenwood/Alpine head unit : 7 k
JBL GTO1004 Amplifier: 11-12 k
JBL GTO608C: 5-6 k
JBL GT5S12+ enclosure: 4 k + 1.5 k
Install + JBL wiring Kit+ RCAs: 5k

Easy as 1-2-3. All prices mentioned are authorized JBL price with warranty (but i have factored in the general discount)

Thanks for the suggestion! I have a few questions!

JBL GTO1004 - is this 4 channel amp?
JBL GTO608C - assuming these are components? will they fit in the front? I think the Esteem has space on the left and right side of the dashboard.

Keep the inputs coming!

shreyasma · 18th September 2009, 22:57

Yes GTO1004 is a 4 channel amp

The dasboard location you are point to is a 4" one which is badly placed.

The 608c (components) have to be fitted by modifying the doorpads like the below images

frankmehta · 18th September 2009, 23:58

arey!? yeh gaadi to mein pehle kidhar dekhela hai! (methinks I have seen this car somwehere!)
:-P

shreyasma · 19th September 2009, 09:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankmehta

arey!? yeh gaadi to mein pehle kidhar dekhela hai! (methinks I have seen this car somwehere!)
:-P

May be..find more details in the following thread

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/sound-...er-hermit.html

mlal000 · 19th September 2009, 19:43

Thanks for the pics! So I guess, the dashboard space provided is not the best. Also is the GTO1004 a newer model from the JBL 75.4 (got one in my Swift)?

Which HU do you recommend? I got the Pioneer 7950 myself however if there is something better in the market in the same price range I'd sure like to know. Thanks again!

Quote:

Originally Posted by shreyasma

Yes GTO1004 is a 4 channel amp

The dasboard location you are point to is a 4" one which is badly placed.

The 608c (components) have to be fitted by modifying the doorpads like the below images

shreyasma · 19th September 2009, 21:07

@mlal000, 1004 was the replacement of 75.4.

There are alpine, kenwood, blaupunkt, panasonic. Depends on your taste.
Pioneers are on the dik-chak side according to me. Plays better with the loudness at off and EQ at flat.

chiragh_bir · 24th September 2009, 12:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankmehta

Pioneer/Kenwood/Alpine head unit : 7 k
JBL GTO1004 Amplifier: 11-12 k
JBL GTO608C: 5-6 k
JBL GT5S12+ enclosure: 4 k + 1.5 k
Install + JBL wiring Kit+ RCAs: 5k

Easy as 1-2-3. All prices mentioned are authorized JBL price with warranty (but i have factored in the general discount)

wrong suggestion for compos there frank , don't be the enemy of his ears with sharp tweeters from JBL

!!

best compos in that price are Bull or Mtx or hertz or illusion !!

JBL 1004 is now avaiable for 8k .

If you can spend 10-12 k better look for kenwood 8404 or Infinity amps . They are more towards SQ than outright power

navin · 24th September 2009, 13:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiragh_bir

wrong suggestion for compos there frank , don't be the enemy of his ears with sharp tweeters from JBL

!!

best compos in that price are Bull or Mtx or hertz or illusion !!

The Hertz (Energy) I have heard are way brighter than the JBL GTO series. But it is a matter of taste. I admit to prefering sound that is very very laid back.

abhibh · 24th September 2009, 13:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiragh_bir

wrong suggestion for compos there frank , don't be the enemy of his ears with sharp tweeters from JBL

!!

look who is talking about sharp tweeters

@mlal000 adution a few system in and around Delhi and then decide. PM a few Delhi members on forum, i am sure they will help you with auditions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

The Hertz (Energy) I have heard are way brighter than the JBL GTO series. But it is a matter of taste. I admit to prefering sound that is very very laid back.

Navinji are you talking about the new or old Energy series ?

Have auditioned both the sets and here is what i feel:

Old Energy: Lack of midbass, bright tweeter (for some), nice detailing, build etc etc

New Energy: Nice midbass, Tweeter attenuation in crossover (-2 0 +2), not as bright as old one, lacks tweeter detail (feels like tweeter rolls off pretty fast, not an expert here), build is average compared to earlier set.

Though new energy is overall a nice set for someone who prefers listening to rock & pop.

nitrous · 24th September 2009, 14:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiragh_bir

wrong suggestion for compos there frank , don't be the enemy of his ears with sharp tweeters from JBL

Only the JBLs in the list are not the base models.
The JBL GTO 608s are absolute VFM and the -3db button on the crossover can minimize the treble,apart from the EQ in the HU.

chiragh_bir · 24th September 2009, 15:37

@abhibh ...
ya this is chiragh talking about sharp tweeters !!

+1 to abhibh audition some setups in Delhi and decide

@ nitrous .. JBL are definetly VFM , but he can spend litle extra and get better compos !!

greenh0rn · 24th September 2009, 16:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

I admit to prefering sound that is very very laid back.

Navin, as it so happens, some members here prefer exactly the similar sound from their components

Which ones are your personal favorite for great laid-back sound?

Quote:

Originally Posted by abhibh

@mlal000 adution a few system in and around Delhi and then decide. PM a few Delhi members on forum, i am sure they will help you with auditions.

@mlal000, if you can take pains to come to Malviya Nagar in South Delhi, you are welcome to audition Illusion + JBL GTO 1004 setup mated to a Clarion HU in my car.

17th September 2009, 19:24	#1
mlal000 Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 19 Thanked: 0 Times	ICING up my bro's Esteem! Hey all, I need some help in deciding what all to install in my brother's car. He has a 2000-2001 Esteem. I am thinking of going with an all JBL setup. We live in Delhi and so are probably going to go to Elegant Auto (Lajpat Nagar) or Driven (East of Kailash). I ICED up my Swift in 2007 from Elegant and it was a good experience. Since I have been out of the loop for a while now, kindly suggest what model speakers (front and back), sub, head unit, etc. can be installed in his Esteem. His budget is between 35-40k. If you could also let me know any other good shops to buy and install this stuff from, that would be great. Waiting on your suggestions! P.S. - He's chucking away his old speakers and head unit. This is going to be a completely new setup.
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18th September 2009, 00:39	#2
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,000 Thanked: 3,577 Times View My Garage	Pioneer/Kenwood/Alpine head unit : 7 k JBL GTO1004 Amplifier: 11-12 k JBL GTO608C: 5-6 k JBL GT5S12+ enclosure: 4 k + 1.5 k Install + JBL wiring Kit+ RCAs: 5k Easy as 1-2-3. All prices mentioned are authorized JBL price with warranty (but i have factored in the general discount)
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18th September 2009, 22:57	#5
shreyasma BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bang! Posts: 652 Thanked: 6 Times	Yes GTO1004 is a 4 channel amp The dasboard location you are point to is a 4" one which is badly placed. The 608c (components) have to be fitted by modifying the doorpads like the below images Last edited by shreyasma : 18th September 2009 at 22:58.
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18th September 2009, 23:58	#6
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,000 Thanked: 3,577 Times View My Garage	arey!? yeh gaadi to mein pehle kidhar dekhela hai! (methinks I have seen this car somwehere!) :-P
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19th September 2009, 21:07	#9
shreyasma BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bang! Posts: 652 Thanked: 6 Times	@mlal000, 1004 was the replacement of 75.4. There are alpine, kenwood, blaupunkt, panasonic. Depends on your taste. Pioneers are on the dik-chak side according to me. Plays better with the loudness at off and EQ at flat.
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24th September 2009, 15:37	#14
chiragh_bir Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In front of you :P Posts: 1,123 Thanked: 74 Times View My Garage	@abhibh ... ya this is chiragh talking about sharp tweeters !! +1 to abhibh audition some setups in Delhi and decide @ nitrous .. JBL are definetly VFM , but he can spend litle extra and get better compos !! Last edited by chiragh_bir : 24th September 2009 at 15:39.
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