Finally Getting my Swift Iced Again!!!

Piyush_Vroom · 26th October 2009, 19:25

Gurus,

Finally i am again back to ICE dayz. Its my third ICE in 35 years

Present Equipment
JVC-AVX44
Kenwood 8401
pioneer P7200M Mono amplifier
Hertz dsk 165
GZ RW30SPL woofer in a ported box
Wiring Tsunami and Kicker

Guys first about the things i have.
I have not heard much about JVC SQ but what i feel is that its a nice enough HU the best thing i like about it is that it is able to Play WAV files from USB HDD without any problems and gives good SQ due to the quality of files.not many HU's can do that.

Kenwood amp. Its a decent amp with decent output and was alright for DSK 165

Pioneer Amplifier provided me with decent power~300RMS which was Just driving the powerful woofer which i plan to change later on as i would be going complete SQ rather than SPL

The woofer can easily shudder swift if given enough power Period.

New Equipment
Pioneer P800PRS
PPI 356CS components + Peerless 6.5 Midbass drivers
Clarion DPX 11551 Amplifier
Still Searching for good 2/4 channel Amp
New RCA and 0 Gauge power cables.

I need help on how to get the best out of the combination of the above stated equipment

Thanks in Advance

pranava999 · 26th October 2009, 21:17

Based on what I have read elsewhere on the net, you have finalised on some real quality equipment. Waiting to see what your choice of a 2 channel or 4 channel amp is going to be. Have you considered DLS or Genesis?

Piyush_Vroom · 26th October 2009, 21:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by pranava999

Based on what I have read elsewhere on the net, you have finalised on some real quality equipment. Waiting to see what your choice of a 2 channel or 4 channel amp is going to be. Have you considered DLS or Genesis?

I am thinking about DLS but genesis is way above my budget brother. Also trying to get a Massive Audio CA50.4 Used from US if possible. Lets see what i can get.

pranava999 · 26th October 2009, 22:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piyush_Vroom

I am thinking about DLS but genesis is way above my budget brother. Also trying to get a Massive Audio CA50.4 Used from US if possible. Lets see what i can get.

What kind of budget you looking at?
I think you could land a few deals online and have it brought down through a friend?

frankmehta · 26th October 2009, 22:31

Congrats Piyush. Will be glued to this thread for updates. Cheers!

Piyush_Vroom · 26th October 2009, 23:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankmehta

Congrats Piyush. Will be glued to this thread for updates. Cheers!

Thanks Frank Bhai.Lets see how it shapes up.

Piyush_Vroom · 26th October 2009, 23:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by pranava999

What kind of budget you looking at?
I think you could land a few deals online and have it brought down through a friend?

Currently due to deficiency of Vitamin M. i am looking for a deal ~$200 in US for a used 4 channel amp.lets see wht i get.. Cheers

abhinav.gupta88 · 27th October 2009, 06:16

Congrats Piyush. So far so good. Good choice of equipment.

How is the 30SPL treating you. Hope you are taking good care of my beauty

So you are retaining the Sub as of now? or changing to something else?

Piyush_Vroom · 27th October 2009, 11:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by abhinav.gupta88

Congrats Piyush. So far so good. Good choice of equipment.

How is the 30SPL treating you. Hope you are taking good care of my beauty

So you are retaining the Sub as of now? or changing to something else?

Thanks Buddy. They are nice woofers.I certainly am taking good care of them. Still just getting 300wrms from my Amp. Let me hook them on to Clarion and then i will see. I am more of a SQ+SPL kind of person so there would be mix and match.I want to keep them otherwise i would move to IDQ or IDMAX

Piyush_Vroom · 28th October 2009, 00:03

Guys how about SoundStream Ref 4.920 series

VOiLA · 28th October 2009, 18:28

Have a look at :-Harman Kardon CA470 / DLS Reference RA40 / Infinity Kappa Four

Piyush_Vroom · 28th October 2009, 21:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOiLA

Have a look at :-Harman Kardon CA470 / DLS Reference RA40 / Infinity Kappa Four

Nice Choice here. i will take a look.

Piyush_Vroom · 29th October 2009, 00:08

Specs for the 4 amps
What to Choose from these
3 Class AB amps 1 Class D Amp.
IMHO Class AB > Class D
HK CA470
Type : 4-Channel
Amplification : Class AB
RMS Power @ 4Ohms : 4 x 85W
RMS Power @ 2Ohms : 4 x 135W
Electronic Crossover (Front/Rear: 12dB/Oct., Sub: 24dB/Oct.) : Front: LP/HP/Off , Rear: LP/HP/Off
Variable Subsonic (12dB/Oct.) (rear)
RJ45 Audio Input/Output
Auxiliary Line-Level Outputs (sum up all 4 ch.)
Multilayer boards with high-quality SMT parts and shielded transformers ensure minimum noise and distortion.
High-current capability with high output power into low impedances guarantees perfect control of critical loads such as those from power-hungry subwoofers.
Aluminum heatsink with casted end caps and brushed-silver aluminum inlays combines maximum heat dissipation with elegant design.
Single-screw RCA connectors and heavy-duty power and speaker terminals for long-lasting connectivity.
Acrylic top cover with brushed-aluminum Harman Kardon® logo; badge features blue ambient light.
New RJ45 multichannel audio and control inputs and outputs for easy single-wire system connections.
Variable electronic crossover networks and subsonic filters on all models.

DLS RA40
Number of channels:4
Amplifier class:AB
Output power in 4 ohm4 x 75 w
Output power in 2 ohm4 x 110 W
Mono bridge mode 4 ohm2 x 220 W
Damping factor> 200
S/N ratio, A-weighted> 100 dB
Frequency range10 Hz - 50 kHz
Input sensitivity0,2 - 7 V

Infinity Kappa Four

4 channel amplifier
Class D
125 watts RMS x 4 at 4 ohms (150 watts RMS x 4 at 2 ohms)
300 watts RMS x 2 bridged at 4 ohms
CEA-2006 compliant
variable high- and low-pass filters (32-320 Hz, 12dB per octave)
bass boost: 0-12 dB
frequency response: 10 Hz to 75 kHz
Non-stop Thermal Protection ciruitry
Class-D amplifier design
differential balanced speaker-and preamp-level inputs
4-gauge power and ground leads and a 80-amp fuse recommended — wiring and hardware not included with amplifier
fuse rating: 40A x 2
7-1/16"W x 1-3/4"H x 14-5/8"D

SoundStream Reference 4.920

Power output:
- 160 Watts RMS x 4 @ 4 ohms
- 230 Watts RMS x 4 @ 2 ohms
- 460 Watts RMs x 2 Bridged @ 4 ohms
Regulated MOSFET power supply
Class AB
RUBI (Rapid-use branched impulse) proprietary power supply technology
STACT (stabilized apex current technology) reduces power supply stress by 50%
Trident amplifier power technology
Auto high-current, regulates power supply load for application
Triple darlington output circuitry
Hawkins bass control: proprietary bass equalization
Drive delay II eliminates turn-on & turn-off pops
Ultra-low ESR capacitors for rapid power delivery & dynamic transient peaks
Tri-mode operation
Damping Factor: >1000
Signal-to-noise ratio: >110dB
180 degree phase control
30-80hz hawkins bass boost
200mV-9V input voltage
4ga. Power & 8ga direct wire terminal

frankmehta · 29th October 2009, 00:11

DLS RA40. No second thoughts; It IS the one. Nothing compares to it in it's price range. It's GOLD!

abhinav.gupta88 · 29th October 2009, 01:03

DLS RA40 > HK CA470 > Infinity > Soundstream.

26th October 2009, 19:25	#1
Piyush_Vroom BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NewDelhi/Noida Posts: 222 Thanked: 5 Times	Finally Getting my Swift Iced Again!!! Gurus, Finally i am again back to ICE dayz. Its my third ICE in 35 years Present Equipment JVC-AVX44 Kenwood 8401 pioneer P7200M Mono amplifier Hertz dsk 165 GZ RW30SPL woofer in a ported box Wiring Tsunami and Kicker Guys first about the things i have. I have not heard much about JVC SQ but what i feel is that its a nice enough HU the best thing i like about it is that it is able to Play WAV files from USB HDD without any problems and gives good SQ due to the quality of files.not many HU's can do that. Kenwood amp. Its a decent amp with decent output and was alright for DSK 165 Pioneer Amplifier provided me with decent power~300RMS which was Just driving the powerful woofer which i plan to change later on as i would be going complete SQ rather than SPL The woofer can easily shudder swift if given enough power Period. New Equipment Pioneer P800PRS PPI 356CS components + Peerless 6.5 Midbass drivers Clarion DPX 11551 Amplifier Still Searching for good 2/4 channel Amp New RCA and 0 Gauge power cables. I need help on how to get the best out of the combination of the above stated equipment Thanks in Advance Last edited by Piyush_Vroom : 26th October 2009 at 19:35.
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26th October 2009, 21:17	#2
pranava999 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 845 Thanked: 23 Times View My Garage	Based on what I have read elsewhere on the net, you have finalised on some real quality equipment. Waiting to see what your choice of a 2 channel or 4 channel amp is going to be. Have you considered DLS or Genesis?
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26th October 2009, 22:31	#5
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,000 Thanked: 3,577 Times View My Garage	Congrats Piyush. Will be glued to this thread for updates. Cheers!
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27th October 2009, 06:16	#8
abhinav.gupta88 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Delhi , India Posts: 4,092 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Congrats Piyush. So far so good. Good choice of equipment. How is the 30SPL treating you. Hope you are taking good care of my beauty So you are retaining the Sub as of now? or changing to something else?
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28th October 2009, 00:03	#10
Piyush_Vroom BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NewDelhi/Noida Posts: 222 Thanked: 5 Times	Guys how about SoundStream Ref 4.920 series
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28th October 2009, 18:28	#11
VOiLA BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hmmmm.... Posts: 102 Thanked: 0 Times	Have a look at :-Harman Kardon CA470 / DLS Reference RA40 / Infinity Kappa Four
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29th October 2009, 00:08	#13
Piyush_Vroom BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NewDelhi/Noida Posts: 222 Thanked: 5 Times	Specs for the 4 amps What to Choose from these 3 Class AB amps 1 Class D Amp. IMHO Class AB > Class D HK CA470 Type : 4-Channel Amplification : Class AB RMS Power @ 4Ohms : 4 x 85W RMS Power @ 2Ohms : 4 x 135W Electronic Crossover (Front/Rear: 12dB/Oct., Sub: 24dB/Oct.) : Front: LP/HP/Off , Rear: LP/HP/Off Variable Subsonic (12dB/Oct.) (rear) RJ45 Audio Input/Output Auxiliary Line-Level Outputs (sum up all 4 ch.) Multilayer boards with high-quality SMT parts and shielded transformers ensure minimum noise and distortion. High-current capability with high output power into low impedances guarantees perfect control of critical loads such as those from power-hungry subwoofers. Aluminum heatsink with casted end caps and brushed-silver aluminum inlays combines maximum heat dissipation with elegant design. Single-screw RCA connectors and heavy-duty power and speaker terminals for long-lasting connectivity. Acrylic top cover with brushed-aluminum Harman Kardon® logo; badge features blue ambient light. New RJ45 multichannel audio and control inputs and outputs for easy single-wire system connections. Variable electronic crossover networks and subsonic filters on all models. DLS RA40 Number of channels:4 Amplifier class:AB Output power in 4 ohm4 x 75 w Output power in 2 ohm4 x 110 W Mono bridge mode 4 ohm2 x 220 W Damping factor> 200 S/N ratio, A-weighted> 100 dB Frequency range10 Hz - 50 kHz Input sensitivity0,2 - 7 V Infinity Kappa Four 4 channel amplifier Class D 125 watts RMS x 4 at 4 ohms (150 watts RMS x 4 at 2 ohms) 300 watts RMS x 2 bridged at 4 ohms CEA-2006 compliant variable high- and low-pass filters (32-320 Hz, 12dB per octave) bass boost: 0-12 dB frequency response: 10 Hz to 75 kHz Non-stop Thermal Protection ciruitry Class-D amplifier design differential balanced speaker-and preamp-level inputs 4-gauge power and ground leads and a 80-amp fuse recommended — wiring and hardware not included with amplifier fuse rating: 40A x 2 7-1/16"W x 1-3/4"H x 14-5/8"D SoundStream Reference 4.920 Power output: 160 Watts RMS x 4 @ 4 ohms 230 Watts RMS x 4 @ 2 ohms 460 Watts RMs x 2 Bridged @ 4 ohms Regulated MOSFET power supply Class AB RUBI (Rapid-use branched impulse) proprietary power supply technology STACT (stabilized apex current technology) reduces power supply stress by 50% Trident amplifier power technology Auto high-current, regulates power supply load for application Triple darlington output circuitry Hawkins bass control: proprietary bass equalization Drive delay II eliminates turn-on & turn-off pops Ultra-low ESR capacitors for rapid power delivery & dynamic transient peaks Tri-mode operation Damping Factor: >1000 Signal-to-noise ratio: >110dB 180 degree phase control 30-80hz hawkins bass boost 200mV-9V input voltage 4ga. Power & 8ga direct wire terminal Last edited by Piyush_Vroom : 29th October 2009 at 00:16.
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29th October 2009, 00:11	#14
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,000 Thanked: 3,577 Times View My Garage	DLS RA40. No second thoughts; It IS the one. Nothing compares to it in it's price range. It's GOLD!
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29th October 2009, 01:03	#15
abhinav.gupta88 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Delhi , India Posts: 4,092 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	DLS RA40 > HK CA470 > Infinity > Soundstream.
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