New ICE in the Scorp - YAY!

shankar.balan · 5th October 2010, 11:52

Got rather displeased with the old AD oval speakers at rear + Pioneer Tweeters in front. These were fitted up as soon as I bought my Scorp. They werent fantastic to start with but they did the job required. I now know in retrospect that I should never have compromised. But at the time I wasnt as wise perhaps. In hind-sight one is usually a lot wiser. and if one gets a second shot at everything in life, like in golf, one is likely to achieve a better result than one did the first time, simply by having been able to attempt to correct mistakes made earlier.

So to cut a long story short, yesterday I went along to PIT STOP and took a plunge. PIT STOP because he recently fitted an AutoCop central locking system for me in the Scorp and I like his work quality.

I ve kept my Standard Pioneer Single CD + MP3 + FM Tuner Head Unit.

Changed the rear ovals to a pair of lovely JBL Oval Grand Tourer series.

Added a pair of Co-axial Round JBLs in front along with individual Cross-overs + 2 little tweeters mounted on the ORVM Rubber Mountings inside near the ORVM levers. (These also are from the Grand Tourer Series)

This setup is upgrade-able with a Power Amp extra as well. Probably will do that in a short while to enhance the quality further. Lets see.

Playing the music at even a small volume between 3-7 range, the sound system's output quality has moved to a completely different level. I am now surrounded by the pure notes of lovely music where earlier my poor typani were assailed by a nasty hun-like quality of attack (largely treble related).

While I know this new set up is still quite a humble one and may not be as per the extremely high standards of many of our Audio Gurus out there, I personally am extremely pleased with the quality of output and clarity of sound - especially the mid-range.

Really feels good to listen to my favourite Cuban Jazz CD's now!

The MRPs of all these speakers meant that I would have been down about 16 grand in all.

But PIT STOP does a pretty solid discount for cash down.

Most importantly his technician takes care to fit the stuff carefully and doesnt make a mess.

Just thought I would share this with you all in my first ever post in the ICE section. Note that I ve just today started using the word/acronym ICE - where earlier I used to prefer the old fashioned words Audio System/ Music System/ Sound system.

scorpio_fan · 14th October 2010, 10:08

Hi Shankar,
Good to see you here. Simple but nice setup. Which was the shop from where you did this? Some pictures would be great!
Scorpio fan

shankar.balan · 14th October 2010, 11:22

the PitStop chaps.
decent blokes all in all.
main thing is that the sound is wonderful. lovely rich sound. not too loud but very clear indeed.
will take some pics and post.
cheers

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Originally Posted by scorpio_fan

Hi Shankar,
Good to see you here. Simple but nice setup. Which was the shop from where you did this? Some pictures would be great!
Scorpio fan

jeeva · 14th October 2010, 11:29

The ovals at the front, did they have to cut the door to fix it/spacers?
Or was it the same size of the OE one?

Good to know that you are happy with the set up.
Some pics please.

shankar.balan · 14th October 2010, 12:00

the front ones are Round actually, not ovals. no cutting needed. spacers were required. the crossovers are mounted inside the doorpads. the tweeters are mounted on the ORVM Pad inside close to the lever with which one controls the mirror angle.

the rear ones are ovals for which some cutting was required but that was done at the time I fitted the first pair of ovals so when we fitted the JBLs we just had to place them and mount them in the same place.

Im happy over all with the work and the net result.

will take pics and post them.

cheers

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeeva

The ovals at the front, did they have to cut the door to fix it/spacers?
Or was it the same size of the OE one?

Good to know that you are happy with the set up.
Some pics please.

Omkar0044 · 15th October 2010, 08:54

Waiting for the pics.
Is the HU powerful enough to drive these speakers satifactorily without an amp?

diwakarmuthu · 18th October 2010, 20:02

Shankar, eagerly awaiting the install pics

shankar.balan · 24th October 2010, 09:16

Here are the pictures;

The real Ovals create a very nice effect on account of their bass effect and overall clarity and quality.
The front component speakers have the cross-overs mounted within the doors and these contribute greatly to high quality low + mid range effect.
The little tweeters mounted on the ORVM internal pads are excellent for mid-range + treble.

As of now my standard basic Pioneer Head Unit Single CD + MP3 + FM tuner gives me more than sufficient effect without having to invest in an amplifier.

The amplifier will certainly help but as of now I dont feel I require the same.

raj_5004 · 24th October 2010, 09:28

congrats shankar. really surprised to see this in YOUR car, never knew you were an ICE freak!

JBL is indeed the most VFM product in the market. i like the way the tweeters are mounted. why dint you mount the front speakers inside the stock grill?

if you are considering an amp, would it be JBL S644?

shankar.balan · 25th October 2010, 06:56

i like quality sound and good music like most other people!
well my scorp is the LX so there are no pre-arranged spaces to mount the front speakers hence the mounting on the door pads with spacers.

will see about the amp. no idea which one, but I should I guess match the amp to the speakers so it will be a JBL (if I decide to put an amp that is!)
cheers

Quote:

Originally Posted by raj_5004

congrats shankar. really surprised to see this in YOUR car, never knew you were an ICE freak!

JBL is indeed the most VFM product in the market. i like the way the tweeters are mounted. why dint you mount the front speakers inside the stock grill?

if you are considering an amp, would it be JBL S644?

ampere · 25th October 2010, 08:18

@Shakar,

Where is the shop located?

jkdas · 25th October 2010, 08:59

Was wondering where you went and here you are on the ICE side.

Looks like you got components for front and 6x9 oval's for rear but why 16k?

And the switch on the filter will help you drone the excess treble ( ie,if you find it too much), pretty used full function.

Also, being 2ohms, they play pretty loud from HU.

shankar.balan · 3rd November 2010, 13:36

@ampere - Raheja Plaza near Lifestyle Richmond Road
@jkdas - ha! thanks man. I dont know too much about this but it sounds pretty good to me just now.
Will take your input on board and fiddle with the speakers on the weekend though!
cheers

5th October 2010, 11:52	#1
shankar.balan BANNED Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 11,797 Thanked: 27,252 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/2 (8)	New ICE in the Scorp - YAY! Got rather displeased with the old AD oval speakers at rear + Pioneer Tweeters in front. These were fitted up as soon as I bought my Scorp. They werent fantastic to start with but they did the job required. I now know in retrospect that I should never have compromised. But at the time I wasnt as wise perhaps. In hind-sight one is usually a lot wiser. and if one gets a second shot at everything in life, like in golf, one is likely to achieve a better result than one did the first time, simply by having been able to attempt to correct mistakes made earlier. So to cut a long story short, yesterday I went along to PIT STOP and took a plunge. PIT STOP because he recently fitted an AutoCop central locking system for me in the Scorp and I like his work quality. I ve kept my Standard Pioneer Single CD + MP3 + FM Tuner Head Unit. Changed the rear ovals to a pair of lovely JBL Oval Grand Tourer series. Added a pair of Co-axial Round JBLs in front along with individual Cross-overs + 2 little tweeters mounted on the ORVM Rubber Mountings inside near the ORVM levers. (These also are from the Grand Tourer Series) This setup is upgrade-able with a Power Amp extra as well. Probably will do that in a short while to enhance the quality further. Lets see. Playing the music at even a small volume between 3-7 range, the sound system's output quality has moved to a completely different level. I am now surrounded by the pure notes of lovely music where earlier my poor typani were assailed by a nasty hun-like quality of attack (largely treble related). While I know this new set up is still quite a humble one and may not be as per the extremely high standards of many of our Audio Gurus out there, I personally am extremely pleased with the quality of output and clarity of sound - especially the mid-range. Really feels good to listen to my favourite Cuban Jazz CD's now! The MRPs of all these speakers meant that I would have been down about 16 grand in all. But PIT STOP does a pretty solid discount for cash down. Most importantly his technician takes care to fit the stuff carefully and doesnt make a mess. Just thought I would share this with you all in my first ever post in the ICE section. Note that I ve just today started using the word/acronym ICE - where earlier I used to prefer the old fashioned words Audio System/ Music System/ Sound system. Last edited by shankar.balan : 5th October 2010 at 12:10.
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14th October 2010, 10:08	#2
scorpio_fan BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 186 Thanked: 245 Times View My Garage	Hi Shankar, Good to see you here. Simple but nice setup. Which was the shop from where you did this? Some pictures would be great! Scorpio fan
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14th October 2010, 11:29	#4
jeeva BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: DXB / Nilgiris Posts: 779 Thanked: 1,337 Times View My Garage	The ovals at the front, did they have to cut the door to fix it/spacers? Or was it the same size of the OE one? Good to know that you are happy with the set up. Some pics please.
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15th October 2010, 08:54	#6
Omkar0044 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: bangalore Posts: 27 Thanked: 2 Times	Waiting for the pics. Is the HU powerful enough to drive these speakers satifactorily without an amp?
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18th October 2010, 20:02	#7
diwakarmuthu BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: KA, TN Posts: 449 Thanked: 545 Times	Shankar, eagerly awaiting the install pics
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24th October 2010, 09:16	#8
shankar.balan BANNED Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 11,797 Thanked: 27,252 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/2 (8)	Here are the pictures; The real Ovals create a very nice effect on account of their bass effect and overall clarity and quality. The front component speakers have the cross-overs mounted within the doors and these contribute greatly to high quality low + mid range effect. The little tweeters mounted on the ORVM internal pads are excellent for mid-range + treble. As of now my standard basic Pioneer Head Unit Single CD + MP3 + FM tuner gives me more than sufficient effect without having to invest in an amplifier. The amplifier will certainly help but as of now I dont feel I require the same. Attached Thumbnails
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24th October 2010, 09:28	#9
raj_5004 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubai/Mumbai Posts: 5,238 Thanked: 3,169 Times	congrats shankar. really surprised to see this in YOUR car, never knew you were an ICE freak! JBL is indeed the most VFM product in the market. i like the way the tweeters are mounted. why dint you mount the front speakers inside the stock grill? if you are considering an amp, would it be JBL S644?
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25th October 2010, 08:18	#11
ampere Team-BHP Support Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 18,342 Thanked: 13,649 Times View My Garage	@Shakar, Where is the shop located?
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25th October 2010, 08:59	#12
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,685 Thanked: 1,497 Times View My Garage	Was wondering where you went and here you are on the ICE side. Looks like you got components for front and 6x9 oval's for rear but why 16k? And the switch on the filter will help you drone the excess treble ( ie,if you find it too much), pretty used full function. Also, being 2ohms, they play pretty loud from HU.
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3rd November 2010, 13:36	#13
shankar.balan BANNED Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 11,797 Thanked: 27,252 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/2 (8)	@ampere - Raheja Plaza near Lifestyle Richmond Road @jkdas - ha! thanks man. I dont know too much about this but it sounds pretty good to me just now. Will take your input on board and fiddle with the speakers on the weekend though! cheers
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