[blackasta]

I am in the process of upgrading the total sound system (albeit step by step - money is a deterrent!) of my new(old) 2000 Mazda Protege.

Factory speakers:

5x7 in front door
6x9 on rear shelf

Both should be of Pioneer (the rear ones definitely are), but are very old (around 10 years) and the rear right speaker does not work.

I have already upgraded the Factory HU to Pioneer DEH 3200UB, and now its time to give some attention to the speakers.

I do not want to fit speakers of other size (though I know that 6x8 can be fitted in a 5x7 slot using a baffle board) - due to time and resource constraints. No plans of amp/sub either.

The one speaker set that I put up to the 'guru' test is:

Rockford Fosgate P1572 in front (67 USD on amazon)
Rockford Fosgate P1694 on rear (75 USD on amazon) or a cheaper option can be Rockford Fosgate R1693 on rear(33 USD on amazon).

Please remember that my HU was a DIY job, and so shall be the speakers.

Please pour in comments/suggestions etc!

Thanks!

[navin]

Originally Posted by blackasta

I have already upgraded the Factory HU to Pioneer DEH 3200UB
Rockford Fosgate P1572 in front (67 USD on amazon)
Rockford Fosgate P1694 on rear (75 USD on amazon)

Have you rheard RF speakers? I wold recommend you listen to 2-3 barnds before you decide on buying any audio component especially speakers.

[blackasta]

Originally Posted by navin

Have you rheard RF speakers? I wold recommend you listen to 2-3 barnds before you decide on buying any audio component especially speakers.

I am planning to visit a nearby Best Buy to get a hang of the speakers offered there. Shall not buy from them because they charge way too much.
I did some googling around and the speakers I posted were both recommended and in my budget.

[akshaymahajan]

Will the Rockford Fosgate R1693 with a RF R150 2 channel amp be a better option than the Rockford Fosgate P1694? They cost difference is about 20 USD.
Was thinking of getting a pair of speakers but if I can get a pair of coaxials +amp for around 5 grand, sounds like a steal. (ALL RF)
Also there are some Clarion speakers for 30USD? Why does something not sound right?

@blackasta: do compare the prices with newegg. They have some good deals.

[Akshay1234]

+1 about BestBuy being waaaaay overpriced.

Here I found a better deal than amazon for you
Rockford Fosgate Car Speakers - Full Range Car Speakers at OnlineCarStereo.com

[blackasta]

Originally Posted by akshaymahajan

Will the Rockford Fosgate R1693 with a RF R150 2 channel amp be a better option than the Rockford Fosgate P1694? They cost difference is about 20 USD.
Was thinking of getting a pair of speakers but if I can get a pair of coaxials +amp for around 5 grand, sounds like a steal. (ALL RF)
Also there are some Clarion speakers for 30USD? Why does something not sound right?

@blackasta: do compare the prices with newegg. They have some good deals.

Originally Posted by akshay1234

+1 about BestBuy being waaaaay overpriced.

Here I found a better deal than amazon for you
Rockford Fosgate Car Speakers - Full Range Car Speakers at OnlineCarStereo.com

Thanks for the advice guys - will surely look into those options.

[blackasta]

Okay - discovered a while back that this car actually has provision for 6 speakers!
2 in front door, 2 in rear door and 2 in rear deck.
The rear doors do not have any speakers at this moment.
What would the updated suggestion be?
If I have to install/utilize all 6 speakers is it a must to use an amp?
Is it advised that I just stick to 2 front door and 2 rear deck setup?

[DerAlte]

Best Buy, Fry's etc. are stores. Store prices are higher than online prices. But, do you think you can get an audition at online stores. Incorrect comparison of prices.

Between rear doors and rear deck, 6x9 on rear deck will give better bass than 5x7 or 6.5" in rear doors. No, it is not necessary to put *both* rear doors and rear deck - won't give any advantage whether with or without amp.

[navin]

I would sugest only installing 4 6" speakers (in the doors). Then you can shoehorn (with minor modifications) a pair of 8" woofers (you will need an amp to drive these) into the rear deck location. So what you will need are....

a. Pair of 6" components (if the car has tweeter pods) in the front
b. Pair of 6" coax/components in the rear (components if the car has tweeter pods)
c. Pair of 8" woofers in the rear deck
d. 4 ch amplifier bridgeable to 2 channels for the rear deck 8" woofers

[jaguar.runs]

Only 5X7" fits in the doors. 6x9" is too big for the doors and will involve some cutting of the metal and some plastic on the door trim. My suggestion is to avoid that as your are planing on DYI. The plastic enclosure on the door trim also ducts the audio into cabin properly.

[navin]

Ok then consider 5x7" for the doors but you can get a 6" to fit in a 5x7 slot.
Speaker Adapters*- Dash Kits Harnesses*- Autotoys

[blackasta]

I do not see any tweeter pods, and doing a component DYI should not be taken up by a first timer like me (IMO).
Guess I shall stick to the 5x7 front door and 6x9 rear deck setup.
Did some comparison on specs, and I guess the R1693 should be enough for me (maximum times I am the lone person in my car).
Compare Rockford Fosgate R1693 6" x 9" Coaxial Car Speaker vs. Rockford Fosgate P1694 6" x 9" Coaxial Car Speaker - Shopping.com
Tried 2 best buy stores yesterday but could not find the RF speakers in any one of them.
Let me come back from my Christmas vacation and i shall continue my search.

[blackasta]

Real newbie to car audio setups here. I have a 2000 Protege ES with everything stock except that I changed the HU to Pioneer 3200 UB (ipod integration being one of the main reasons)
Now I want to upgrade the speakers step by step. I was impressed by Rockford Fosgate P1692 in a friend's car and with my rear passenger side speaker conked off since I bought the car, I ordered a pair of those.
What should be the next steps? I do not want a big thumping bass - but a separate SW would be nice.
I was planning for some component speakers for the front. By that time - I guess I would require amps.
Gurus kindly help.

Current Configuration:

HU: Pioneer 3200 UB
Front door: stock 5x7 (guess its pioneer)
Rear door: None - though there is space for 5x7
Rear deck: None - removed the stock 6x9 pioneers

I am interested in a step by step DIY.

On order: Rockford Fosgate P1692 6x9 for rear deck

Type of music I listen to varies from classic rock to RnB, and hindi movies/ bengali pop/soft rock

[navin]

There is no need for speakers in the rear deck and rear door.
However if it was me this is what I would do.

Upgrade front door speaker.
Leave the rear door unattended
and add a subwoofer and a 4 channel amplifier.

Use the amplifer to drive the subwoofer and front speakers and let teh HU drive the rear speakers.


BTW see this link for adapaters for 5x7 speakers incase you want to install components in the front door.
Universal 6"x9" to 5-1/4" or 6-1/2" Brackets Speaker adapter plates at Crutchfield.com

[blackasta]

Thanks navin for the fast response.

I understand that 6 speakers are overkill - and I indeed planned for 2 front + 2 rear deck + 1 SW.

I looked around online and figured that 6x8 speakers fit in 5x7 slots - is that correct?
But if i get an adapter to fit 6.5 inch speakers - I can bring the whole set back when I return to India and fit them on my i10 (I shall ditch the rear door speakers on i10 and fit the 6x9s on parcel tray) - learnt from another thread that though the i10 stock speakers are only 5.25 there is enough space to fit 6.5 inchers. (correct me if i am wrong)

If I wish to go for a front component speaker set and a 4 channel amp - what would be the suggested ones.

My budget for front comps can be around 120-140 (JBL GTO?) and maybe around 150 for amp (in don't have a clear idea on which one suits what)

Also - is it possible for the HU to drive front (comp) and rear speakers without an amp (maybe I shall fit front speakers after the rear speakers, and then again go for a small SW and amp)? I looked up and the output from the HU is :

Audio

Maximum power output........ 50 W x 4
50 W x 2/4 ohm + 70 W x 1/2 ohm (for subwoofer)

Continuous power output ........22 W x 4 (50 Hz to 15 000
Hz, 5 % THD, 4 ohm load, both channels driven)

Also - why are capacitors used with amps?

Sorry if i asked too many questions!