Dream SPL Setup : Budget 1.5 lacs for Stage 1. Suggestions?

procircuit_234 · 20th March 2011, 23:28

this is my dream ICE setup.started with a budget of 1 lac and was planing to import amps and HU from US.but couldnt import the stuff.
But now realized that 1 lac is not enough budget for a really good setup.dont want to compromise so finally have decided to go step by step.
My priorities
SPL setup.
Loves bass
Hate treble
I always listen to trance,pop,hip hop.
Till now have decided upon the following
Stage 1 budget 50k(+/-20k)

HU-needs USB.
kenwood 7016 or 8016(some people say it is low on bass as compared to alpine or pioneers)is it true?
Alpine 103BT(I didn’t like 9887 or117 lookwise)
Alpine iDA-X305S(just liked the looks)
Am inclined towards 7016
Any other option for HU?
Amp1-still confused should I go for 2ch or 4ch
focal solid4
DLS RA20(getting it for 20-22k brand new)
Genesis profile 4 (26k)
Genesis profile 2 ultra(20k)
Am inclined towards RA 20 but is it a good amp for SPL setup and would any of the following compos will match this amp?or just the solid 4 is enough?
Now need to decide about front compos and rear coax and wiring kit.
My car is baleno altura so there is space for 6.” speakers at rear.is it ok if I go for 6.”coax at rear or should I go for 6*9 coax in separate box.
Confusion about compos is..
Morel tempo6X and morel maximo
Focal 165VR/VB and focal coax
Alpine SPR-17S and alpine SPR 17c
Dls RS6A
Rainbow SLC265
Infinity Kappa Perfect

Wiring kit –scosche e1000

For stage 2 my budget is 1 lac and am planning for really big monoblock and two 12”sub.mostly I will import the amp from US.i have id max or dd in mind and for amp alpine pdxM12 or dd cm1.
But as for now I have to decide my stage 1 equipments.i wont be upgrading to stage 2 for the next 6 months.
I am bass lover but still I dont want pure SPL.it should not be only boom boom. My concern is when I add mono and subs there should not be only bass(I hope guys you understand what I am trying to say!)

two setups which i could think of

7016+DLS RA20+morel tempo6x+moral maximo =near about 50-55k

7016+focal soli4+focal 165VB+focal coax=near about 45-50

still what you say guys???this is my really dream setup and dont want to regret for anything.

abhibh · 21st March 2011, 01:53

7016 / Alpine + Rainbow SLC / SAC + DLS RA20
or
7016 / Alpine + Rainbow SLC / SAC + 4 CH amp (Genny / Focal)

Kenny 7016 is a lil light / thin on bass notes but no issues if you are going to power components + subs with good AMPS!

Pr_007 · 21st March 2011, 05:03

Pro, you say you need SPL but most of the Components that you have mentioned screams SQ..

SPL is Kicker L7 solobaric subs, Kicker amps, Ground Zero subs, Ascendant audio subs, Digital design subs, Rockford fosgate subs and such.

so please first decide if you want SPL or SQL.

procircuit_234 · 21st March 2011, 21:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pr_007

Pro, you say you need SPL but most of the Components that you have mentioned screams SQ..

SPL is Kicker L7 solobaric subs, Kicker amps, Ground Zero subs, Ascendant audio subs, Digital design subs, Rockford fosgate subs and such.

so please first decide if you want SPL or SQL.

suggestions welcome

i am looking for SPL but not pure SPL.it should not sound only boom boom.and yes for the stage 2,i will consider dd.but for now have to decide amp1 and compos.

Pr_007 · 21st March 2011, 23:26

The DLS RA20 is an awesome amp. Better than the other two that you have mentioned. You can even try the Mosconi Gladen One 120.4 (27K after discounts) very very good and an under-rated amp.

Pr_007 · 22nd March 2011, 08:19

All the Components that you have mentioned love power and the DLS RA20 gives out real clean power.

Very good THD and SNR ratio. Your focals/Alpine's/DLS will sing extremely with that kind of clean power. DLS RA20 is the way to go buddy.

procircuit_234 · 24th March 2011, 23:43

my basic confusion is should i go for 2ch or 4 ch amp?i am not goin to sit at rear in my life.so is it ok if i go for 2ch amp and power my rears directly by HU?(i will save on amp and rear coax also)
right now my optios are
mosconi one 120.2(17k)
DLS RA20(22k)
mosconi 120.4(27k)
once i choose the amp will decide about compos(rainbow/morel/DLS)

thelord · 25th March 2011, 00:04

I think you are looking for more of an SQL Setup.
Here's what I'd suggest.

Kenny 7016 + Rainbow SLC Kick + Mosconi 120.4 / DLS RA20 / Mosconi 120.2

The difference between the 2-channel and 4-channel amp is 7-8k, so if you can spend more, then go for 120.4 and you'll be able to bi-amp the Rainbow SLC components. I have personally auditioned a very similar setup in a friend's Punto (SumitBahl) and it sounds really good! Now here comes the tricky part, if the ONE series of Mosconi is amazing, then the AS series of Mosconi is even better! I hope I have managed to confuse you a bit more

procircuit_234 · 25th March 2011, 00:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by thelord

I think you are looking for more of an SQL Setup.
Here's what I'd suggest.

Kenny 7016 + Rainbow SLC Kick + Mosconi 120.4 / DLS RA20 / Mosconi 120.2

The difference between the 2-channel and 4-channel amp is 7-8k, so if you can spend more, then go for 120.4 and you'll be able to bi-amp the Rainbow SLC components. I have personally auditioned a very similar setup in a friend's Punto (SumitBahl) and it sounds really good! Now here comes the tricky part, if the ONE series of Mosconi is amazing, then the AS series of Mosconi is even better! I hope I have managed to confuse you a bit more

surely you did!

the price diifferance between 120.2 and 120.4 is 10k.mosconi AS 100.2 gives the same output as the one 120.4(yes there is no doubt AS series must be better than one series)the question is should i pamper my rears?i still have RA20 in my mind..or just the mosconi is the best??
also am thinking of alpine iDA305S

procircuit_234 · 25th March 2011, 01:08

DLS RA20 130*2 @4 ohms
AS 100.2 100*2 @4ohms
one 120.2 100*2 @4 ohms
one 120.4 120*4@4 ohm and 2*350 @4 ohms

CrackedHead · 25th March 2011, 01:36

A Rs 10K four channel amp will do the job nicely when it comes to an SPL setup.

Also, if you want to build a high wattage system then you need to think about electrical's as well. Look for efficient amps (class D, class G/H, etc.)

You can reduce you amp budget significantly if you hen look at closeouts and clearance sales. These go for throwaway prices just because they are the last year model. Example: Server error These even have a warranty from Boston Acoustics.

Piyush_Vroom · 27th March 2011, 20:03

Not much diff in a SPL Setup regarding Amps..They should give rated output and the speaker efficiency should be good. That is a thing to note down...

procircuit_234 · 29th March 2011, 00:44

most VFM 4ch amp is focal solid4.should i consider infinity kappa4?gives 125*4 at 4 ohms.

procircuit_234 · 3rd April 2011, 22:12

guys...suggestions needed...
should i lock rainbow 265.25 kickbass(24k)
which would be the best amp to power them?

rider60 · 4th April 2011, 02:24

dude at the end of the day, all this equipment is mandatory for a SPL/SQ/SQL what ever setup, but but, please o please upgrade your battery, set aside a budget for it and get a deep cycle battery if not a capacitor, if not its not going to rock as much as you expect it to!

believe me i have a baby crown amp, JBL BPX500.1 mono, but i dont have a good battery, so i dare not pump up the volumes beyond a limit!

also when such equipment goes in, its also very very essential that you eliminate all the weak LINKS in the chain, like the wires, big three upgrade and the battery!

cheers to you, and its nice to see another spl aspirant aboard! good luck buddy!

20th March 2011, 23:28	#1
procircuit_234 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: mumbai Posts: 223 Thanked: 16 Times	Dream SPL Setup : Budget 1.5 lacs for Stage 1. Suggestions? this is my dream ICE setup.started with a budget of 1 lac and was planing to import amps and HU from US.but couldnt import the stuff. But now realized that 1 lac is not enough budget for a really good setup.dont want to compromise so finally have decided to go step by step. My priorities SPL setup. Loves bass Hate treble I always listen to trance,pop,hip hop. Till now have decided upon the following Stage 1 budget 50k(+/-20k) HU-needs USB. kenwood 7016 or 8016(some people say it is low on bass as compared to alpine or pioneers)is it true? Alpine 103BT(I didn’t like 9887 or117 lookwise) Alpine iDA-X305S(just liked the looks) Am inclined towards 7016 Any other option for HU? Amp1-still confused should I go for 2ch or 4ch focal solid4 DLS RA20(getting it for 20-22k brand new) Genesis profile 4 (26k) Genesis profile 2 ultra(20k) Am inclined towards RA 20 but is it a good amp for SPL setup and would any of the following compos will match this amp?or just the solid 4 is enough? Now need to decide about front compos and rear coax and wiring kit. My car is baleno altura so there is space for 6.” speakers at rear.is it ok if I go for 6.”coax at rear or should I go for 6*9 coax in separate box. Confusion about compos is.. Morel tempo6X and morel maximo Focal 165VR/VB and focal coax Alpine SPR-17S and alpine SPR 17c Dls RS6A Rainbow SLC265 Infinity Kappa Perfect Wiring kit –scosche e1000 For stage 2 my budget is 1 lac and am planning for really big monoblock and two 12”sub.mostly I will import the amp from US.i have id max or dd in mind and for amp alpine pdxM12 or dd cm1. But as for now I have to decide my stage 1 equipments.i wont be upgrading to stage 2 for the next 6 months. I am bass lover but still I dont want pure SPL.it should not be only boom boom. My concern is when I add mono and subs there should not be only bass(I hope guys you understand what I am trying to say!) two setups which i could think of 7016+DLS RA20+morel tempo6x+moral maximo =near about 50-55k 7016+focal soli4+focal 165VB+focal coax=near about 45-50 still what you say guys???this is my really dream setup and dont want to regret for anything.
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21st March 2011, 01:53	#2
abhibh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Back in the HOOD near you! Posts: 2,768 Thanked: 39 Times	re: Dream SPL Setup : Budget 1.5 lacs for Stage 1. Suggestions? 7016 / Alpine + Rainbow SLC / SAC + DLS RA20 or 7016 / Alpine + Rainbow SLC / SAC + 4 CH amp (Genny / Focal) Kenny 7016 is a lil light / thin on bass notes but no issues if you are going to power components + subs with good AMPS! Last edited by abhibh : 21st March 2011 at 01:56.
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21st March 2011, 05:03	#3
Pr_007 BHPian Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chennai Posts: 235 Thanked: 19 Times	re: Dream SPL Setup : Budget 1.5 lacs for Stage 1. Suggestions? Pro, you say you need SPL but most of the Components that you have mentioned screams SQ.. SPL is Kicker L7 solobaric subs, Kicker amps, Ground Zero subs, Ascendant audio subs, Digital design subs, Rockford fosgate subs and such. so please first decide if you want SPL or SQL.
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21st March 2011, 23:26	#5
Pr_007 BHPian Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chennai Posts: 235 Thanked: 19 Times	Re: Dream SPL Setup : Budget 1.5 lacs for Stage 1. Suggestions? The DLS RA20 is an awesome amp. Better than the other two that you have mentioned. You can even try the Mosconi Gladen One 120.4 (27K after discounts) very very good and an under-rated amp.
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22nd March 2011, 08:19	#6
Pr_007 BHPian Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chennai Posts: 235 Thanked: 19 Times	Re: Dream SPL Setup : Budget 1.5 lacs for Stage 1. Suggestions? All the Components that you have mentioned love power and the DLS RA20 gives out real clean power. Very good THD and SNR ratio. Your focals/Alpine's/DLS will sing extremely with that kind of clean power. DLS RA20 is the way to go buddy.
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24th March 2011, 23:43	#7
procircuit_234 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: mumbai Posts: 223 Thanked: 16 Times	Re: Dream SPL Setup : Budget 1.5 lacs for Stage 1. Suggestions? my basic confusion is should i go for 2ch or 4 ch amp?i am not goin to sit at rear in my life.so is it ok if i go for 2ch amp and power my rears directly by HU?(i will save on amp and rear coax also) right now my optios are mosconi one 120.2(17k) DLS RA20(22k) mosconi 120.4(27k) once i choose the amp will decide about compos(rainbow/morel/DLS)
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25th March 2011, 00:04	#8
thelord BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 278 Thanked: 5 Times	Re: Dream SPL Setup : Budget 1.5 lacs for Stage 1. Suggestions? I think you are looking for more of an SQL Setup. Here's what I'd suggest. Kenny 7016 + Rainbow SLC Kick + Mosconi 120.4 / DLS RA20 / Mosconi 120.2 The difference between the 2-channel and 4-channel amp is 7-8k, so if you can spend more, then go for 120.4 and you'll be able to bi-amp the Rainbow SLC components. I have personally auditioned a very similar setup in a friend's Punto (SumitBahl) and it sounds really good! Now here comes the tricky part, if the ONE series of Mosconi is amazing, then the AS series of Mosconi is even better! I hope I have managed to confuse you a bit more
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25th March 2011, 01:08	#10
procircuit_234 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: mumbai Posts: 223 Thanked: 16 Times	Re: Dream SPL Setup : Budget 1.5 lacs for Stage 1. Suggestions? DLS RA20 1302 @4 ohms AS 100.2 1002 @4ohms one 120.2 1002 @4 ohms one 120.4 1204@4 ohm and 2*350 @4 ohms
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25th March 2011, 01:36	#11
CrackedHead BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Seattle Posts: 585 Thanked: 81 Times	Re: Dream SPL Setup : Budget 1.5 lacs for Stage 1. Suggestions? A Rs 10K four channel amp will do the job nicely when it comes to an SPL setup. Also, if you want to build a high wattage system then you need to think about electrical's as well. Look for efficient amps (class D, class G/H, etc.) You can reduce you amp budget significantly if you hen look at closeouts and clearance sales. These go for throwaway prices just because they are the last year model. Example: Server error These even have a warranty from Boston Acoustics.
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27th March 2011, 20:03	#12
Piyush_Vroom BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NewDelhi/Noida Posts: 222 Thanked: 5 Times	Re: Dream SPL Setup : Budget 1.5 lacs for Stage 1. Suggestions? Not much diff in a SPL Setup regarding Amps..They should give rated output and the speaker efficiency should be good. That is a thing to note down...
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29th March 2011, 00:44	#13
procircuit_234 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: mumbai Posts: 223 Thanked: 16 Times	Re: Dream SPL Setup : Budget 1.5 lacs for Stage 1. Suggestions? most VFM 4ch amp is focal solid4.should i consider infinity kappa4?gives 125*4 at 4 ohms.
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3rd April 2011, 22:12	#14
procircuit_234 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: mumbai Posts: 223 Thanked: 16 Times	Re: Dream SPL Setup : Budget 1.5 lacs for Stage 1. Suggestions? guys...suggestions needed... should i lock rainbow 265.25 kickbass(24k) which would be the best amp to power them?
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4th April 2011, 02:24	#15
rider60 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bhagyanagaram. (A.K.A. Hyderabad) Posts: 1,620 Thanked: 56 Times View My Garage	Re: Dream SPL Setup : Budget 1.5 lacs for Stage 1. Suggestions? dude at the end of the day, all this equipment is mandatory for a SPL/SQ/SQL what ever setup, but but, please o please upgrade your battery, set aside a budget for it and get a deep cycle battery if not a capacitor, if not its not going to rock as much as you expect it to! believe me i have a baby crown amp, JBL BPX500.1 mono, but i dont have a good battery, so i dare not pump up the volumes beyond a limit! also when such equipment goes in, its also very very essential that you eliminate all the weak LINKS in the chain, like the wires, big three upgrade and the battery! cheers to you, and its nice to see another spl aspirant aboard! good luck buddy!
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