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Originally Posted by n.devdath Very informative and insightful post.
However, are you sure it is 2000km before shut off or 200?
Even a long distance bus (Bangalore-Bombay for example) takes a halt for passenger/operator bio breaks approximately every 8 hrs and at an average speed of 80kmph, that translates into 640km.
While one may argue that the engine isn't shut down during these halts by some buses since they run the ac as well, it still doesn't add to 2000km between shut offs. |
It is usually 2000 km. Route is usually something like this 4 buses on Pune Nagpur route + 2 short routes. Bus 1 to start Pune at 5.30 Pm Day 1 reach Nagpur 6.30 Am Next day, idle till 7.30 and go to Amravati by 11.00. Idle with Ac on, Start back for Nagpur by 1.00Pm and reach by 5.00 Pm. Then start for Pune at 8.00 Pm, and reach by 9.00 Am. That is 720 + 170 + 170 + 720 = 1780 km.
Bus which started from Nagpur at 5.30 when bus 1 started from Pune will reach Pune by 6.30 next day, then start for Kolhapur at 7.30 reach by noon start back by 1.00 Pm reach by 5.00 Pm and start for Nagpur by 8.00 Pm.
That is 720+240+240+720=1920 km.
Similarly Pune Mysuru does Mysuru Bangalore, Bangalore Mumbai Mumbai Bangalore and reverse.
A Cochin based silent BHP'ian who has a Scania dealership and runs his own buses Cochin to Hyderabad 1075km in 16 Hrs his buses shut engine down from 7.30 Am to 2.0Pm.
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Originally Posted by n.devdath Why do truck engines die sooner? 1. Overloading. 2. Irregular maintenance and jugaad repairs. 3. Bad/rash driving. |
None of this kills engines. It is the 8 to 10 Hr unloading halts at destinations, where engine becomes fully cold before being restarted that kills the engine. Overloading only damages axles, king pins etc. Fact that a 2518, 3518 and 3718 share power train except for final reduction in differential ratio says how much it is overdesigned.
Jugad repair is restricted to body parts and electrical components, power train, brakes and tires are always presently maintained by long runners.
Engines rated for 100% output for 48 Hrs cannot be killed however bad you drive.
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Originally Posted by AMG Power Engines that do continuous long distances stay reliable for very long. In fact they do not even need the oil to be changed as per the regular preventive maintenance schedule as the oil would last longer than that of engines that do short distances.
These engines would probably average around 500 kms per day making them ultra reliable. |
Recommended oil change in Volvo and Scania is 1 lakh km or 184 days for route operation buses, and only 40,000 km or 184 days for short haul buses. This variation in oil change itself points to stress increase in short haul.
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Originally Posted by AMG Power Rarely would you see a truck parked on the roadside with an engine problem - you will however find them with broken leaf springs, burst tyres, broken axles or maybe just overturned. |
Agreed.
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Originally Posted by Turbohead Sounds quite interesting! Any proof for that?
Besides, is there any chance our car engines can last so long especially with ridiculous traffic in the city and short trips? I regularly see taxis with 2 lakhs on the odometer. Or are regular cars designed to be junk after 2-3 lakh KM's? |
My 2005 Indica engine lasted 8 years and 3.24 lakh km before I sold the car, day before sale my sales staff had done a one day a 680 km Pune Belgaon return and tank was just above 1/4th. A good friend Mr Kedar Kasar who owns KK travels that does Pune to Mumbai airport has even managed crossing 8 Lakh km in Innova, Xylo and Tata Aria, and recently he replaced 170 of his Aria by Xylo and all had crossed 5 lakh km, and only 8 of them had engines opened. He was planning on Hexa XE, but Tata people did not want to give any fleet discount so early in the vehicles life, so he settled for Xylo.
Rahul