A little heavy-haulage history.

pradster · 22nd March 2010, 17:33

I am glad trucks with noses that long are not in the hands of our desi drivers. On a related note, this truck should be crash safe as well, its got a massive crumple zone!

smashnerd · 22nd March 2010, 18:39

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Originally Posted by Sudan_NFS

I think the wheels are alloy wheels and I am not sure how the drive will be seated with those huge steering in front of him.

That's a puzzling fact. How does the driver drive this thing?

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Originally Posted by pradster

I am glad trucks with noses that long are not in the hands of our desi drivers. On a related note, this truck should be crash safe as well, its got a massive crumple zone!

Last thing you want to give a typical desi driver, is a mean looking thing like that. Remember, it's got a 150 BHP diesel unit under the hood.

smashnerd · 23rd March 2010, 05:39

Check out the chassis twist on these Mercedes-Benz trucks from the late 40's and early 50's.

A little heavy-haulage history.-autowp.ru_mercedesbenz_la4500_1.jpg

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raj_5004 · 23rd March 2010, 09:32

WOW! never thought a truck could do this? is this a 4WD? i mean a 6WD?!!

conjon · 23rd March 2010, 10:13

Its a four wheel drive.
wow thats got a very good wheel articulation.

SirAlec · 25th March 2010, 21:28

i can vouch for this as we owned two of these made by tata, rebadged 312. only difference being it had two wind screen and the steering on the proper side.

smashnerd · 25th March 2010, 21:36

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Originally Posted by SirAlec

i can vouch for this as we owned two of these made by tata, rebadged 312. only difference being it had two wind screen and the steering on the proper side.

Have you got any pics of the Tata's you owned? It's been a long time since I've seen them here.

basilmabraham · 25th March 2010, 21:50

Nice report smashnerd.

A visit to the MB museum in Stuttgart will reveal even more fascinating facts about the history of Mercedes Benz. The layout and the guided tours in the museum itself shows the quality of the brand. A must visit for any enthusiasts who pass through this part of Germany. As a bonus, you could also visit the Porsche museum as well.

smashnerd · 25th March 2010, 21:55

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Originally Posted by basilmabraham

Nice report smashnerd.

A visit to the MB museum in Stuttgart will reveal even more fascinating facts about the history of Mercedes Benz. The layout and the guided tours in the museum itself shows the quality of the brand. A must visit for any enthusiasts who pass through this part of Germany. As a bonus, you could also visit the Porsche museum as well.

It's weird to think that Mercedes-Benz makes higher profits in manufacturing trucks/buses than with cars.

SirAlec · 25th March 2010, 22:05

i have them in old B&W format back at my place. Need to scan them sometime.

smashnerd · 26th March 2010, 05:10

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Originally Posted by SirAlec

i have them in old B&W format back at my place. Need to scan them sometime.

Sure do. I'm having a hard time finding pictures of the Tata models. It would be nice if you could share some technical details.

fifthwheel · 26th March 2010, 22:27

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Originally Posted by smashnerd

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That is a 1938 Mercedes-Benz L10000 truck. A tri-axle with just a singular tyre each side (even at the rear). It had a GVW close to 18.5 tonnes and was the flagship of the Benz truck range. Following are some facts and observations :-

1. That never-ending hood houses a 12.5 litre, straight-6 diesel (trucks before the L series used petrol engines) making 150 BHP.

2. Check out that close to zero suspension-travel.

3. This is the meanest looking truck I've seen till date.

4. Check out the monster steering-wheel that goes to 75% of the windshield height.

5. Beginning from 1939, trucks started to sport short-nose designs and curvier lines making them less likely to appear in your nightmares.

WoW!!!
I don't find any more words to comment.

Are there anybody from TML / AL, See what the Germans've done 70 years back. Amazing

smashnerd · 27th March 2010, 07:14

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Originally Posted by fifthwheel

WoW!!!
I don't find any more words to comment.

Are there anybody from TML / AL, See what the Germans've done 70 years back. Amazing

That's exactly what I was thinking when I looked at this picture for the first time.

I sourced the picture from autowp.ru (A wallpaper site with a ginormous collection of everthing from trucks, cars, buses to even oddball one-offs).

smashnerd · 3rd May 2010, 14:52

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Does this 1985 Leyland truck seem like the inspiration for the first generation AL Bison?

smashnerd · 7th May 2010, 05:50

Yep, the Russians were known for their revolutionary designs back in the 30's, but none expected them to come out with this piece of heavy-haulage porn -

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This 1932 PT-12 prototype distributed traction to all of its 12 wheels on four axles. With a gross weight of 20 tonnes, it could hit 45 km/h with the help of its 8-liter straight-6 120 BHP engine.

Although a promising concept, its production failed and resources were shifted to production of the usual 2,3 axle trucks. But it gave valuable lessons to the designing team concerning off-road capabilities.

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pradster BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Delhi Posts: 292 Thanked: 16 Times	I am glad trucks with noses that long are not in the hands of our desi drivers. On a related note, this truck should be crash safe as well, its got a massive crumple zone!
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smashnerd BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Kottayam Posts: 457 Thanked: 22 Times	Check out the chassis twist on these Mercedes-Benz trucks from the late 40's and early 50's.
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conjon BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: TReg : Glasgow, PReg : KL-5 Posts: 105 Thanked: 13 Times	Its a four wheel drive. wow thats got a very good wheel articulation.
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SirAlec Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: zxc Posts: 3,393 Thanked: 726 Times	i can vouch for this as we owned two of these made by tata, rebadged 312. only difference being it had two wind screen and the steering on the proper side.
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basilmabraham BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney/Cochin Posts: 772 Thanked: 76 Times View My Garage	Nice report smashnerd. A visit to the MB museum in Stuttgart will reveal even more fascinating facts about the history of Mercedes Benz. The layout and the guided tours in the museum itself shows the quality of the brand. A must visit for any enthusiasts who pass through this part of Germany. As a bonus, you could also visit the Porsche museum as well.
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SirAlec Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: zxc Posts: 3,393 Thanked: 726 Times	i have them in old B&W format back at my place. Need to scan them sometime.
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smashnerd BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Kottayam Posts: 457 Thanked: 22 Times	Does this 1985 Leyland truck seem like the inspiration for the first generation AL Bison?
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smashnerd BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Kottayam Posts: 457 Thanked: 22 Times	Revolution. Yep, the Russians were known for their revolutionary designs back in the 30's, but none expected them to come out with this piece of heavy-haulage porn - This 1932 PT-12 prototype distributed traction to all of its 12 wheels on four axles. With a gross weight of 20 tonnes, it could hit 45 km/h with the help of its 8-liter straight-6 120 BHP engine. Although a promising concept, its production failed and resources were shifted to production of the usual 2,3 axle trucks. But it gave valuable lessons to the designing team concerning off-road capabilities.
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