[shashanka]

Originally Posted by PreludeSH

It depends on weight on axle and hence traction. FWD usually are forward biased and in normal scenarios have more traction than RWD. Torque steer happens in many cars when you use FWD with close to 200 hp or more kind of power.

I would never take my Miata or S2000 on snowy days (RWDs). Would drive other FWDs Honda easily.

Good for you. Here in India we don't have too much snow. But I can take my Thar BS6 wherever the mood takes you. Forward biased yes, provided the engine/drive train mass is over the axle. On steep inclines (1 in 3 or steeper, common enough in the hills) the weight can fall behind the axle center-line and with a full load, wheel scrabbling is expected. However, as I mentioned, the views are mine and formed after enough experience.

[rkv_hunter]

Took a test drive of BYD Emax 7 today.

The car drives well, suspension set up feels good. AC is good. Speakers are slightly worse than my Creta which have the Arkymys speakers and not even the Bose ones as it is SX. But speakers are acceptable not outright bad.

But there is one concern, the drivers seat feels much inferior to my Creta. The sales guy said maybe it will take time to get the right set up and in the test drive I tried 3-4 times at different intervals but couldn’t get it right. Side bolstering is very less and seat base length seems slightly less. I am 5-10 and felt I wasn’t just getting the right position to be comfortable. The seat ventilation made it slightly better but nothing compared to my current car which doesn’t have ventilation. I came back, parked besides my Creta and sat in my Creta and it felt like the seat was much more comfortable like it holds u from behind and sides.

The sales guy said may be Creta has a better seat and since I am used to it the new seat feels different and I may get used to it with regular usage.

But don’t know if others have felt the same for test drive or E6 owners have faced the same.

Also the sales guy clarified that the 51k benefit for bookings before 8 Oct is a cash benefit so straight discount which seems like a good deal.

Slightly confused on whether to go ahead or wait for any other 6-7 seater EVs , currently only the Mahindra is in pipeline and for EVs would rely on BYD/MG any day compared to Mahindra.

[narayans80]

Originally Posted by rkv_hunter

But there is one concern, the drivers seat feels much inferior to my Creta <snip> I came back, parked besides my Creta and sat in my Creta and it felt like the seat was much more comfortable like it holds u from behind and sides.

There are only 2 things I can think of: side bolstering and fabric seats.

[Arav99]

Hi,

Does anyone have any update on expected delivery timelines for the emax 7? Im from delhi and BYD delhi is saying either december or january without any definitive answer.

Also, any clue on the registration charges waiver on EVs which was to be brought back in delhi? The earlier policy had lapsed in august but there were many media reports quoting the transport minister that the policy will be extended till march 25, and registration charges would stand waived. But its been a month since then and currently the registration charges are the full 10% without any waiver.

[cryptkeeper]

Hi,

Couple of things I would like to mention after taking the test drive for the eMax 7 in Kolkata.

1) It does have Wireless Android Auto and Apple Car Play, tested both while taking the test drive.

Connections were solid and did not disconnect, in fact one niggle I had was that the car would just not disconnect Wireless Android Auto, even if I turned the BT off on my phone it would turn it back on and reconnect. I had to restart my phone for the android auto connection to break.

2) Suspension setup was great, I drove the car into every pothole I could find on my drive and the car held up beautifully even with all tires set to 36psi pressure.

3) Full Size spare tire will be available as an accessory from BYD directly.

4) 51K benefits as described to me were the 7.4kW charger installation and the charger itself, I was not told it was a cash benefit like "rkv_hunter" mentioned. The 3.5kW portable needs to be bought separately, is not part of the 51K benefit and one is not provided with the car.

5) I booked the 7S model with the 71.8kwh battery pack and was told deliveries were expected in late November or December for Kolkata at least.

[rkv_hunter]

Originally Posted by cryptkeeper

3) Full Size spare tire will be available as an accessory from BYD directly.

4) 51K benefits as described to me were the 7.4kW charger installation and the charger itself, I was not told it was a cash benefit like "rkv_hunter" mentioned. The 3.5kW portable needs to be bought separately, is not part of the 51K benefit and one is not provided with the car.

Even if spare tyre is accessory, there is no space for it. Already with all seats up the boot space is 180 L. They could have made a frunk as there is a lot of space under the bonnet, and could have fitted a spare tyre there.

On the 51k benefit part, the cash benefit is available for people who booked before 8 Oct and is over and above the 7kw and the 3 kw charger as per my dealer.

[cryptkeeper]

I completely agree on the space issue. My solution is going to be to put the tire in whenever I'm out for a long trip outside the city but not have it in the car during city driving.

I booked the car on 21st September and what I mentioned was what was told to me.

[novicefreak]

The launch of Mahindra EVs BE 6e and XEV 9e, changed the whole EV dynamics with a bang & with the numerous leaks on other products like XUV 7e, Carens EV, CretaEV eVitara, etc., BYD needs to be prudent in pricing its EVs, the ATTO3 , eMax7 needs price correction and that too asap. Any information on deliveries of eMax7, I found none in web-space.

[anb]

Originally Posted by novicefreak

The launch of Mahindra EVs BE 6e and XEV 9e, changed the whole EV dynamics with a bang & with the numerous leaks on other products like XUV 7e, Carens EV, CretaEV eVitara, etc., BYD needs to be prudent in pricing its EVs, the ATTO3 , eMax7 needs price correction and that too asap. Any information on deliveries of eMax7, I found none in web-space.

Competition of emax7 will be the 79 KWh variant of XEV 7e. I don’t think any considering this 7 seater MPV will buy the recently launched Mahindras.

[rkv_hunter]

Originally Posted by anb

Competition of emax7 will be the 79 KWh variant of XEV 7e. I don’t think any considering this 7 seater MPV will buy the recently launched Mahindras.

While I agree that the 6E and 9E doesn’t have 6 seats or 7, the eMax 7 doesn’t actually appear value for money with a 72kwh battery pack at 29 lacs, and the plain interiors and seats are not great, not at par with the Atto 3 or Seal. I guess it makes sense to wait for the XEV 7E if it is 6 months down the line.

I had booked the emax 7 but cancelled it looking at the 6E and 9E. For me the value of eMax 7 was range of 500 km in 29 lacs.6 seater was a welcome bonus. After Mahindra the 500 km range mark has shifted by at least 5 lacs, and given that BYD suffers by high import duty you feel that the actual value for Emax 7 is between 22 to 25 lacs specially after the Mahindra launch.

[novicefreak]

Originally Posted by rkv_hunter

I had booked the emax 7 but cancelled it looking at the 6E and 9E. For me the value of eMax 7 was range of 500 km in 29 lacs.6 seater was a welcome bonus. After Mahindra the 500 km range mark has shifted by at least 5 lacs, and given that BYD suffers by high import duty you feel that the actual value for Emax 7 is between 22 to 25 lacs specially after the Mahindra launch.

This is what is changing dynamics mean with launch of new products from Mahindra, that I was mentioning in my earlier posts, and its just the beginning, just wait and watch there is more to come, and more importantly the announcements by market leader Suzuki later on with its e-mobility ecosystem.

What this essentially means steady supply of parts, brand backing, after sales services & most importantly perception of people towards traditional manufacturers. (home grown, Indian)

Is BYD being greedy here? The pricing of eMax7 at 35 lakhs OTR in metros seems impractical. Agreed 22-25 L ex-showroom would have done wonders. At 35L with long waiting times for deliveries, unknown after sales support for simple part replacements, and few recent incidents (smoke on charging port area of an ATTO3, where the customer is struggling for answers, leave very bad opinion) BYD tech and cars are superior no doubt about it, but at what premium is the quintessential question.

[mohanphadnis]

Originally Posted by novicefreak

Is BYD being greedy here? The pricing of eMax7 at 35 lakhs OTR in metros seems impractical. Agreed 22-25 L ex-showroom would have done wonders. At 35L with long waiting times for deliveries, unknown after sales support for simple part replacements, and few recent incidents (smoke on charging port area of an ATTO3, where the customer is struggling for answers, leave very bad opinion) BYD tech and cars are superior no doubt about it, but at what premium is the quintessential question.

BYD is a CBU, while mahindra is built here, the difference in tax structures means BYD cannot go any lower. If GoI allowed BYD to assemble cars locally(their investment was blocked), they would kill the local EV industry.

[antz.bin]

Originally Posted by novicefreak

The launch of Mahindra EVs BE 6e and XEV 9e, changed the whole EV dynamics with a bang & with the numerous leaks on other products like XUV 7e, Carens EV, CretaEV eVitara, etc., BYD needs to be prudent in pricing its EVs, the ATTO3 , eMax7 needs price correction and that too asap.

Mahindra seems to have gone overboard with the pricing of their 79 kwh cars.

eMax7 72 (both 6 and 7 seaters) is priced comfortably lower than the Mahindra XEV 9E 79. BE 6 is not in the same league in terms of space on offer. So for now, this is still VFM even when compared to BYD's own Atto 3 and I doubt anyone was getting the 55kwh battery variant. Price correction will come another day.

[rkv_hunter]

Originally Posted by antz.bin

Mahindra seems to have gone overboard with the pricing of their 79 kwh cars.

eMax7 72 (both 6 and 7 seaters) is priced comfortably lower than the Mahindra XEV 9E 79. BE 6 is not in the same league in terms of space on offer. So for now, this is still VFM even when compared to BYD's own Atto 3 and I doubt anyone was getting the 55kwh battery variant. Price correction will come another day.

Emax 7 interiors are dated except the 12 inch screen. It has an analogue instrument cluster. In terms of material used can’t be compared with Atto 3 which has premium and soft touch material all over. Music system is very ordinary. Also the seats are very average in terms of comfort.

I cancelled my Emax 7 booking due to these reasons otherwise spec and feature wise (battery,range and power) it is a very competitive package.

[AutoIndian]

Originally Posted by rkv_hunter

I cancelled my Emax 7 booking due to these reasons otherwise spec and feature wise (battery,range and power) it is a very competitive package.

Good decision, I must say. I am still wondering why BYD didn't put some extra efforts in prepping up the interiors, when they have brought out such a compelling package, be it power, torque, space, comfort etc. A manually adjustable day-night IRVM, when cars 1/3rd of the price of Emax are offering an auto dimming IRVM.