BSNL Usage Miscalculation?

ashwin.terminat · 23rd June 2011, 23:41

For those who don't know, BSNL offers BB Plans where between 2AM and 8AM, downloads aren't counted and the speeds are 2Mbps. So usage between 2:00:00 and 8:00:00 is free.

Check the highlighted usage. Data counted 7780kb nearly =7.7MB for the duration of 3 seconds.
BSNL knows it gives a 2 Mega"bits" connection and not a 2 Mega"bytes" connection I hope. How in the world even with highest speed(considering both 256kBps download and 64kBps upload speed) can I download+Upload 7MB in 3 seconds? I'm not cribbing that they're eating up my free usage, but this must be happening to everyone even in normal browsing which isn't fair! Also, many-a-time uTorrent reports only 3.8GB of download and see what BSNL records it as 4567600kb=4.3GB! Why this discrepancy?

alto99 · 24th June 2011, 00:21

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Originally Posted by ashwin.terminat

Check the highlighted usage. Data counted 7780kb nearly =7.7MB for the duration of 3 seconds.

Check again it is 2:0:0-8:0:3 i.e. 6hrs 3 secs

ashwin.terminat · 24th June 2011, 00:37

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Originally Posted by alto99

Check again it is 2:0:0-8:0:3 i.e. 6hrs 3 secs

"For those who don't know, BSNL offers BB Plans where between 2AM and 8AM, downloads aren't counted and the speeds are 2Mbps. So usage between 2:00:00 and 8:00:00 is free."

read the 1st line of my post! :P

Comrade · 24th June 2011, 01:46

one reason could be that its not realtime monitoring. Probably data is billed few minutes or seconds after consumption. However, that should not be a valid reason to overcharge!!!

Did you consider your uploaded bandwidth? utorrent separates uploaded bandwidth from downloaded. But its all the same for BSNL.

Edit: just realised that you are talking about download only bandwidth.. then, another reason could be redundant or bad data. I am not sure if utorrent lists wasted data too in total downloaded data (it does list it separately somewhere).

ashwin.terminat · 24th June 2011, 09:37

But isn't 500MB of Bad Data a little far fetched?

sgiitk · 24th June 2011, 09:46

Must be HSPDA at work (the figure of 7 rings a bell here). I can think of no reason.

wildsdi5530 · 24th June 2011, 09:56

Between 2AM and 8AM, downloads aren't counted and the speeds are 2Mbps upto a fair usage policy of 10 Gb per month.
Also if the time of initiation or termination falls outside the period, the whole duration is billed. ie. if started at 0100.59 or if terminated at 0800.01, the whole duration of active connection will be charged.
To be safe, start at 0230 and stop at 0730.

figo_united · 24th June 2011, 10:46

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Originally Posted by wildsdi5530

Also if the time of initiation or termination falls outside the period, the whole duration is billed. ie. if started at 0100.59 or if terminated at 0800.01, the whole duration of active connection will be charged.
To be safe, start at 0230 and stop at 0730.

This is not correct. This used to be the case long ago, when people used to have scripts scheduled to run at 2AM to restart the modem, so that a fresh session is started after 2AM!
Later, BSNL modified the billing process to consider this. (Atleast 3 years ago as I know)
I have been using this plan for a long time now and this is no more an issue.
It does properly consider the 2AM - 8AM window.

ottocycle · 24th June 2011, 12:06

I prefer the package with unlimited download 24x7. Currently using beam cable which gives 10 mbps unlimited speed @ 1000Rs, a true broadband experience.

figo_united · 24th June 2011, 12:10

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Originally Posted by ottocycle

I prefer the package with unlimited download 24x7. Currently using beam cable which gives 10 mbps unlimited speed @ 1000Rs, a true broadband experience.

Unfortunately, none of the service providers offer this because of the fair usage policy.

You get unlimited 24x7, but the speed reduces after a certain download limit.

ashwin.terminat · 24th June 2011, 13:14

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Originally Posted by figo_united

This is not correct. This used to be the case long ago, when people used to have scripts scheduled to run at 2AM to restart the modem, so that a fresh session is started after 2AM!
Later, BSNL modified the billing process to consider this. (Atleast 3 years ago as I know)
I have been using this plan for a long time now and this is no more an issue.
It does properly consider the 2AM - 8AM window.

Exactly! And either way, if that had to be the case, I'd have charged around 5GB! Not 7MB.

ottocycle · 27th June 2011, 11:57

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Originally Posted by figo_united

Unfortunately, none of the service providers offer this because of the fair usage policy.

You get unlimited 24x7, but the speed reduces after a certain download limit.

Even if the fair usage has been crossed, the reduced speed is good enough. Atleast we wouldn't be charged extra after that. In my plan the speed is 10 mbps till 30GB, after that it's 2mbps, which is still a good speed IMO.

figo_united · 27th June 2011, 12:32

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Originally Posted by ottocycle

Even if the fair usage has been crossed, the reduced speed is good enough. Atleast we wouldn't be charged extra after that. In my plan the speed is 10 mbps till 30GB, after that it's 2mbps, which is still a good speed IMO.

Thats a fantasic plan for the price you are paying

Any idea if that service provider's presence in bangalore?
Haven't seen such plan with such pricing with the usual ISPs.

ottocycle · 27th June 2011, 21:35

Yes speed is so good that I share it on both of my laptops and still don't compromise the browsing experience. Unfortunately, they are operating only in Hyderabad at present. I think their next plan is to operate in Chennai.

ashwin.terminat · 28th June 2011, 13:18

Wow, that is one heck of a plan. A full 700MB movie in 10 minutes flat!

What're the uploading speeds?

And yeah, any guesses for BSNL's faulty calculations?

23rd June 2011, 23:41	#1
ashwin.terminat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,711 Thanked: 2,192 Times	BSNL Usage Miscalculation? For those who don't know, BSNL offers BB Plans where between 2AM and 8AM, downloads aren't counted and the speeds are 2Mbps. So usage between 2:00:00 and 8:00:00 is free. Check the highlighted usage. Data counted 7780kb nearly =7.7MB for the duration of 3 seconds. BSNL knows it gives a 2 Mega"bits" connection and not a 2 Mega"bytes" connection I hope. How in the world even with highest speed(considering both 256kBps download and 64kBps upload speed) can I download+Upload 7MB in 3 seconds? I'm not cribbing that they're eating up my free usage, but this must be happening to everyone even in normal browsing which isn't fair! Also, many-a-time uTorrent reports only 3.8GB of download and see what BSNL records it as 4567600kb=4.3GB! Why this discrepancy? Attached Thumbnails Last edited by ashwin.terminat : 23rd June 2011 at 23:44.
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24th June 2011, 01:46	#4
Comrade BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: HYD Posts: 543 Thanked: 1,206 Times	Re: BSNL Usage Miscalculation? one reason could be that its not realtime monitoring. Probably data is billed few minutes or seconds after consumption. However, that should not be a valid reason to overcharge!!! Did you consider your uploaded bandwidth? utorrent separates uploaded bandwidth from downloaded. But its all the same for BSNL. Edit: just realised that you are talking about download only bandwidth.. then, another reason could be redundant or bad data. I am not sure if utorrent lists wasted data too in total downloaded data (it does list it separately somewhere). Last edited by Comrade : 24th June 2011 at 01:52.
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24th June 2011, 09:37	#5
ashwin.terminat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,711 Thanked: 2,192 Times	Re: BSNL Usage Miscalculation? But isn't 500MB of Bad Data a little far fetched?
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sgiitk BANNED Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,969 Thanked: 4,788 Times	Re: BSNL Usage Miscalculation? Must be HSPDA at work (the figure of 7 rings a bell here). I can think of no reason.
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wildsdi5530 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,434 Thanked: 2,046 Times	Re: BSNL Usage Miscalculation? Between 2AM and 8AM, downloads aren't counted and the speeds are 2Mbps upto a fair usage policy of 10 Gb per month. Also if the time of initiation or termination falls outside the period, the whole duration is billed. ie. if started at 0100.59 or if terminated at 0800.01, the whole duration of active connection will be charged. To be safe, start at 0230 and stop at 0730.
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24th June 2011, 12:06	#9
ottocycle BANNED Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 491 Thanked: 589 Times	Re: BSNL Usage Miscalculation? I prefer the package with unlimited download 24x7. Currently using beam cable which gives 10 mbps unlimited speed @ 1000Rs, a true broadband experience.
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ottocycle BANNED Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 491 Thanked: 589 Times	Re: BSNL Usage Miscalculation? Yes speed is so good that I share it on both of my laptops and still don't compromise the browsing experience. Unfortunately, they are operating only in Hyderabad at present. I think their next plan is to operate in Chennai.
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28th June 2011, 13:18	#15
ashwin.terminat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,711 Thanked: 2,192 Times	Re: BSNL Usage Miscalculation? Wow, that is one heck of a plan. A full 700MB movie in 10 minutes flat! What're the uploading speeds? And yeah, any guesses for BSNL's faulty calculations?
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