EDGE in India

aseem · 12th June 2006, 19:34

Hi Guys,
I have recently bought an Imate K-Jam which is EDGE enabled. Now I did some research and found that Hutch has deployed EDGE in India (its on their website). They are charging 500 RS per month and also offering services like Hutch TV etc. Is anyone using this? How much speed are you getting on an EDGE set?
Is Airtel also offering this in Delhi? I have seen they have deployed EDGE in Delhi, and other metros, but its not mentioned on their site??? I am an airtel user and would prefer airtel.
Lastly how much speed can I expect with an Edge set?

rareone · 12th June 2006, 19:46

Hi Aseem,

EDGE is basically a technology which lets u browse the net at a much faster speed compared 2 the other GPRS handsets.

I have been using EDGE from hutch on my Nokia 7710 handsets since 3 months without any issues and at a good speed of atleast 42kbps.

The Benefits which made me opt for EDGE service are :

Faster Browsing
Net connectivity 2 the Laptop
Email on Cell
Messenger on Cell

If u need any of the services which u will use then u can opt for EDGE or else a simple GPRS connection will also help u browse the net on cellphone.

aseem · 12th June 2006, 20:41

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Originally Posted by rareone

Hi Aseem,

EDGE is basically a technology which lets u browse the net at a much faster speed compared 2 the other GPRS handsets.

I have been using EDGE from hutch on my Nokia 7710 handsets since 3 months without any issues and at a good speed of atleast 42kbps.

The Benefits which made me opt for EDGE service are :

Faster Browsing
Net connectivity 2 the Laptop
Email on Cell
Messenger on Cell

If u need any of the services which u will use then u can opt for EDGE or else a simple GPRS connection will also help u browse the net on cellphone.

Hey, good to hear. But theoritically u can get 42 kbps on normal GPRS phone.... I thought with EDGE you should get around 172 kbps... etc. Is is not the case? Most of the things like Net Connectivity via Laptop, Email on Cell and Messenger on Cell can be achieved on a GPRS phone... So if EDGE is not giving us higher speeds, than whats the point of Hutch or Airtel deploying EDGE?
???

rareone · 12th June 2006, 20:48

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Originally Posted by aseem

Hey, good to hear. But theoritically u can get 42 kbps on normal GPRS phone.... I thought with EDGE you should get around 172 kbps... etc. Is is not the case? Most of the things like Net Connectivity via Laptop, Email on Cell and Messenger on Cell can be achieved on a GPRS phone... So if EDGE is not giving us higher speeds, than whats the point of Hutch or Airtel deploying EDGE?
???

The Difference between EDGE over GPRS is u get better connectivity, u are able 2 browse all the sites even the sites which dont support grps, u can have live messenger installed on ur cell thru which u can chat (i m not talkin abt messenger thru sms), and also better connectivity 2 laptop.

aseem · 12th June 2006, 20:59

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Originally Posted by rareone

The Difference between EDGE over GPRS is u get better connectivity, u are able 2 browse all the sites even the sites which dont support grps, u can have live messenger installed on ur cell thru which u can chat (i m not talkin abt messenger thru sms), and also better connectivity 2 laptop.

Are we confusing WAP and GPRS? Any GPRS phone that supports html will browse all sites? wont it? I maybe wrong here, but I am still trying to learn these things.

aZa · 12th June 2006, 21:25

Ok EDGE is a Technology, GPRS is a service. EDGE is also known as eGPRS this is a 2.5G milestone in our journey to the 3G mobile services. EDGE technically can offer broadband based speeds in ideal conditions, but Network coverage, signal strenght and cell size and cell strenght in the end contributes to the user obtainable speeds. In reality EDGE is way faster than the normal GPRS fones, but u can't obtain those theoritical speeds atleast here in india. But yes u can download/watch videos and use it with computers and all that. HUTCH and AIRTEL both provide these services. In hutch its called "HUTCH ACCESS". I'm a Hutch access user and the speeds i get on my 6630 can be termed as FAST

jkdas · 12th June 2006, 22:22

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Originally Posted by aseem

Are we confusing WAP and GPRS? Any GPRS phone that supports html will browse all sites? wont it? I maybe wrong here, but I am still trying to learn these things.

"GPRS and WAP are very2 different. in analogy, GPRS is the highway and WAP is the vehicle that uses the highway.See the difference?
Most WAP-enabled phones uses WAP to access the Internet. But, PDAs usually equipped with full OS and full web browser suite which allow the access to the Web using the standard HTTP and HTTPS protocols.
" ....http://www.computing.net/pda/wwwboard/forum/1843.html

I doubt if all GPRS phones ability to browse all sites. YOu need a good browser to load the full html page correctly. Older phones needed wap sites ( just text pages)

prakash2757 · 13th June 2006, 05:16

Well Nice definitions, but let me know how many Indian Cell providers have network that really support EDGE ?

Forget BSNL & local networks, I think even Airtel & HUTCH gota problems with speeds on EDGE

Steeroid · 13th June 2006, 11:44

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Originally Posted by jkdas

I doubt if all GPRS phones ability to browse all sites. YOu need a good browser to load the full html page correctly. Older phones needed wap sites ( just text pages)

With Airtel in India I get pretty decent speeds on GPRS, almost the same as normal dialup.

The question you have raised here is about the phone's capability, not the protocol's. Whether a GPRS or EDGE phone, the browser's ability will enhance or retard the surfing experience.

I have no issues with the latest version of Pocket Internet Explorer for Windows Mobile. Mozilla is beta testing their MiniMo for pocket PCs and phones but the experience is far from painless on Windows Mobile. Opera has browsers for most phone/pda platforms too, but they're not strong on Windows Mobile.

jkdas · 13th June 2006, 11:55

Airtel was FAST in cities and big towns, donno why. And Opera Mini is a bit faster, than the regular Opera. But regular Opera is teh best.

prakash2757 · 15th June 2006, 06:05

Thank u for the comment. But I am happy with my cable connection. I dont think I can download whole movies of 1 GB DVD Rips using GPRS

12th June 2006, 19:34	#1
aseem Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Delhi Posts: 1,730 Thanked: 441 Times	EDGE in India Hi Guys, I have recently bought an Imate K-Jam which is EDGE enabled. Now I did some research and found that Hutch has deployed EDGE in India (its on their website). They are charging 500 RS per month and also offering services like Hutch TV etc. Is anyone using this? How much speed are you getting on an EDGE set? Is Airtel also offering this in Delhi? I have seen they have deployed EDGE in Delhi, and other metros, but its not mentioned on their site??? I am an airtel user and would prefer airtel. Lastly how much speed can I expect with an Edge set?
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12th June 2006, 19:46	#2
rareone BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 256 Thanked: 11 Times View My Garage	Hi Aseem, EDGE is basically a technology which lets u browse the net at a much faster speed compared 2 the other GPRS handsets. I have been using EDGE from hutch on my Nokia 7710 handsets since 3 months without any issues and at a good speed of atleast 42kbps. The Benefits which made me opt for EDGE service are : Faster Browsing Net connectivity 2 the Laptop Email on Cell Messenger on Cell If u need any of the services which u will use then u can opt for EDGE or else a simple GPRS connection will also help u browse the net on cellphone.
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12th June 2006, 21:25	#6
aZa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noida / Delhi Posts: 1,595 Thanked: 21 Times View My Garage	Ok EDGE is a Technology, GPRS is a service. EDGE is also known as eGPRS this is a 2.5G milestone in our journey to the 3G mobile services. EDGE technically can offer broadband based speeds in ideal conditions, but Network coverage, signal strenght and cell size and cell strenght in the end contributes to the user obtainable speeds. In reality EDGE is way faster than the normal GPRS fones, but u can't obtain those theoritical speeds atleast here in india. But yes u can download/watch videos and use it with computers and all that. HUTCH and AIRTEL both provide these services. In hutch its called "HUTCH ACCESS". I'm a Hutch access user and the speeds i get on my 6630 can be termed as FAST
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13th June 2006, 05:16	#8
prakash2757 BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 90 Thanked: Once	Well Nice definitions, but let me know how many Indian Cell providers have network that really support EDGE ? Forget BSNL & local networks, I think even Airtel & HUTCH gota problems with speeds on EDGE
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13th June 2006, 11:55	#10
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	Airtel was FAST in cities and big towns, donno why. And Opera Mini is a bit faster, than the regular Opera. But regular Opera is teh best.
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15th June 2006, 06:05	#11
prakash2757 BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 90 Thanked: Once	Thank u for the comment. But I am happy with my cable connection. I dont think I can download whole movies of 1 GB DVD Rips using GPRS
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