Amazing car test software........

SLK · 17th October 2004, 00:10

.. hmm...
I have seen this thing before...

Few years back I did play around with a similar software.... rather must be the old version of this. ... That was for DOS.

... so whats the Demo about?... is there any limitation?

SLK · 17th October 2004, 00:22

ohh.. are you people also trying the DOS one?... or the Java?

I got Java..... its neat

and DOS thing is the same as the one i have..

Shan2nu · 17th October 2004, 00:56

Actually the 4.5 version we are using is DOS Based. The newer one is just a demo, not much fun as you don't get all the options.

Shan2nu

SLK · 17th October 2004, 01:31

... i know its very interesting program...

I played with it a lot....
I just searched my HDD.. and I think I had deleted the modified DATA file.

I had added a lot of cars... at least all Marutis...

What I was doing was.. adjusted the coefficient of drag by hit and trial.. to achieve the almost same figure for 0-100 as done by ACI.

I think I even posted about this thing at the ACI forum... but hardly any takers.

I remember .. this program used to work better in windows 9x/Me... its slower in XP/2003 .. .. specially when u do all car ranking and the likes.

Shan2nu · 17th October 2004, 14:20

But it sure is great fun to have.

Shan2nu

Stratos · 17th October 2004, 15:03

Dude...tell me...its giving me an error while analysing that...Cannot Create Power Curve Exponent!!
Then...how much accurate this software is... do u think!!

gkrishn · 17th October 2004, 15:34

Check all the parameters once again. Also check the metric system that have been used. Also parameters like "%weight on front wheel", "drag coeff" are wild guess.

The only parameter i can cross verify is FE. It says 11.7 in city and i get not more that 10. For higway it says 17.24 and i got 16.

SLK · 17th October 2004, 17:19

now.. how do I configure Hyundai cars?

they obviously look good on paper... and this software only reads from there.

my wagonr is doing 100.. in 12.5 secs...

how to slow down?

SLK · 17th October 2004, 18:34

my Results!... ...

Shan2nu · 17th October 2004, 19:22

SLK your Wagon is too fast, my WR does 100 in around 14.1 (similar to ACI figures) secs and laps the monte carlo in 2min 39.3 secs at 70.9kmph average speed.

Let us know the peremeters and i'll tell you what you need to change.

As for the Accent, i agree, on paper they look very good a quick, but, maybe if you can increase frictional loss it might work. Or see if there'a an option for "wrong bhp figures". LOL

Shan2nu

SLK · 17th October 2004, 21:25

here it is....
when I did it in 2001, I did manage to get the exact ... top speed and 0-100 figures....
and yes.. if u find a way to.. slow down the WagonR... do the same for Santro..LOL

Remember WagonR is now 64bhp@6200rpm
I have kept 1000 start rpm with slip. (for it to be slow but... doesn't help)

Shan2nu · 17th October 2004, 22:49

Ok SLK, here' your prob.

power - 45 kw@6000rpm
torque - 82@3500rpm
redline - 6800rpm

gear ratios
1st- 3.4
2nd - 1.8
3rd - 1.2
4th - .91
5th - .75
Final drive - 4.388
kerb weight - 840 kgs

tyre size - 145/70 R13 (vxi model)

coefficient of drag - .40
Shan2nu

Shan2nu · 17th October 2004, 22:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]Remember WagonR is now 64bhp@6200rpm

I'm sure thats 64 PS and not BHP!

infact, i've have the July 04' issue of Overdrive with me and according to this, it's 62.9 PS which comes to 61bhp (exactly what i used).

Shan2nu

SLK · 17th October 2004, 23:35

ok.. i'll do the changes...

But really?... you trust overdirve for figures? ...
Overdrive is a fiction magazine.. they can't get a single fact right.

This is from the Maruti site... well maruti can lie... but whatever it is... this is the official figure.

SLK · 17th October 2004, 23:44

hey where did u get the gear ratios from?
They limit the WagonR at 129km/h 5th gear@6800rpm ...LOL

And the Vtec... goes 102km/h in 2nd .. so its missing the 3rd shift it requires to get to 100.

17th October 2004, 00:10	#16
SLK Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: DL XX XX XXXX Posts: 1,634 Thanked: 1,011 Times	.. hmm... I have seen this thing before... Few years back I did play around with a similar software.... rather must be the old version of this. ... That was for DOS. ... so whats the Demo about?... is there any limitation?
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17th October 2004, 00:22	#17
SLK Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: DL XX XX XXXX Posts: 1,634 Thanked: 1,011 Times	ohh.. are you people also trying the DOS one?... or the Java? I got Java..... its neat and DOS thing is the same as the one i have..
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17th October 2004, 00:56	#18
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	Actually the 4.5 version we are using is DOS Based. The newer one is just a demo, not much fun as you don't get all the options. Shan2nu
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17th October 2004, 01:31	#19
SLK Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: DL XX XX XXXX Posts: 1,634 Thanked: 1,011 Times	... i know its very interesting program... I played with it a lot.... I just searched my HDD.. and I think I had deleted the modified DATA file. I had added a lot of cars... at least all Marutis... What I was doing was.. adjusted the coefficient of drag by hit and trial.. to achieve the almost same figure for 0-100 as done by ACI. I think I even posted about this thing at the ACI forum... but hardly any takers. I remember .. this program used to work better in windows 9x/Me... its slower in XP/2003 .. .. specially when u do all car ranking and the likes.
	() Thanks

17th October 2004, 14:20	#20
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	But it sure is great fun to have. Shan2nu
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17th October 2004, 15:03	#21
Stratos Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,609 Thanked: 1,449 Times View My Garage	Dude...tell me...its giving me an error while analysing that...Cannot Create Power Curve Exponent!! Then...how much accurate this software is... do u think!!
	() Thanks

17th October 2004, 15:34	#22
gkrishn BHPian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 626 Thanked: 93 Times View My Garage	Check all the parameters once again. Also check the metric system that have been used. Also parameters like "%weight on front wheel", "drag coeff" are wild guess. The only parameter i can cross verify is FE. It says 11.7 in city and i get not more that 10. For higway it says 17.24 and i got 16.
	() Thanks

17th October 2004, 17:19	#23
SLK Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: DL XX XX XXXX Posts: 1,634 Thanked: 1,011 Times	now.. how do I configure Hyundai cars? they obviously look good on paper... and this software only reads from there. my wagonr is doing 100.. in 12.5 secs... how to slow down?
	() Thanks

17th October 2004, 18:34	#24
SLK Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: DL XX XX XXXX Posts: 1,634 Thanked: 1,011 Times	my Results!... ...
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17th October 2004, 19:22	#25
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	SLK your Wagon is too fast, my WR does 100 in around 14.1 (similar to ACI figures) secs and laps the monte carlo in 2min 39.3 secs at 70.9kmph average speed. Let us know the peremeters and i'll tell you what you need to change. As for the Accent, i agree, on paper they look very good a quick, but, maybe if you can increase frictional loss it might work. Or see if there'a an option for "wrong bhp figures". LOL Shan2nu
	() Thanks

17th October 2004, 21:25	#26
SLK Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: DL XX XX XXXX Posts: 1,634 Thanked: 1,011 Times	here it is.... when I did it in 2001, I did manage to get the exact ... top speed and 0-100 figures.... and yes.. if u find a way to.. slow down the WagonR... do the same for Santro..LOL Remember WagonR is now 64bhp@6200rpm I have kept 1000 start rpm with slip. (for it to be slow but... doesn't help)
	() Thanks

17th October 2004, 22:49	#27
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	Ok SLK, here' your prob. power - 45 kw@6000rpm torque - 82@3500rpm redline - 6800rpm gear ratios 1st- 3.4 2nd - 1.8 3rd - 1.2 4th - .91 5th - .75 Final drive - 4.388 kerb weight - 840 kgs tyre size - 145/70 R13 (vxi model) coefficient of drag - .40 Shan2nu
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17th October 2004, 23:35	#29
SLK Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: DL XX XX XXXX Posts: 1,634 Thanked: 1,011 Times	ok.. i'll do the changes... But really?... you trust overdirve for figures? ... Overdrive is a fiction magazine.. they can't get a single fact right. This is from the Maruti site... well maruti can lie... but whatever it is... this is the official figure.
	() Thanks

17th October 2004, 23:44	#30
SLK Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: DL XX XX XXXX Posts: 1,634 Thanked: 1,011 Times	hey where did u get the gear ratios from? They limit the WagonR at 129km/h 5th gear@6800rpm ...LOL And the Vtec... goes 102km/h in 2nd .. so its missing the 3rd shift it requires to get to 100.
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