Originally Posted by Chipz
(Post 1802482)
Khoj; it is a vast topic to talk about the advantages of disadvantages of tubular versus other batteries. Agreed the batteries are not meant to be used in the living or bed room. They must be placed away like under a staircase or in the store room where there is ample air to dissipate the fumes from the battery. The fumes topic is just a ploy by the industry gaints to sell off other sealed batteries with less life. :Frustrati If the place where the battery is situated is well ventilated, then this small amount of fume is harmless. Hey man, do not butt your head against the wall, the wall wins everytime. Trust me I have been there. Fumes are a realty though not obvious for a single battery in an open space, a closed space is a different environment and a different story all together. Visit a battery mfg, plant and you will realize the impact of fumes. The tubular batteries need topping just after 3 of 4 months during power cut. then also it is mostly a 1 Liter bottle of water it needs worth only rs 10. The tubular batteries can have a life of 6 to 8 years and they give good performance even after 4 years of usage. Whereas the sealed batteries performance degrades as time goes by. a 100 aH battery should power a 100 watt bulb for about 10 hours, or 500 watt bulb for 2.5 hours or near this value. The tubular battery usually gives about 2.15 hours backup at 500 watts. The sealed battery cannot keep up with this performance. Even a tubular will lose performance as time goes by. Are the numbers above based on actual observations/experiences. Please see my earlier post on this thread, I think it is #38. On an average I have got more than 5 years of life from the SMFs that I have used thus far. Which is great and the best thing is that the SMF simply drops dead no degradation in performance, just sudden death. And what about repairs. is it able to repair a cell of sealed battery. a tubular battery cell can be replaced easily (though this would reduce the life). I strongly believe that batteries should not be opened anywhere else but in either a recycling unit specific to batteries or in the manufacturing unit for recycling/disposal/R&D etc. If you can, you should visit one of the many battery repair/ manufacturing locations that abound in all of our cities, it is a snapshot from hell. I just mean that if we are spending our hard earned money, why not buy the best in the market, with the most life. This is just my opinion. Agree with you once again and it is nothing but a difference of perception. I perceive the SMF to be the best followed by shield/Xenon etc followed by the Tubulars and others. Your perception is the other way round and that is quite all right. We are all wired differently and correct in our own right. Thanks |
Originally Posted by khoj
(Post 1802555)
Chipz, Please see my view points in bold within your post below the batteries are not meant to be used in the living or bed room. They must be placed away like under a staircase or in the store room where there is ample air to dissipate the fumes from the battery. The fumes topic is just a ploy by the industry gaints to sell off other sealed batteries with less life. :Frustrati If the place where the battery is situated is well ventilated, then this small amount of fume is harmless. Hey man, do not butt your head against the wall, the wall wins everytime. Trust me I have been there. Fumes are a realty though not obvious for a single battery in an open space, a closed space is a different environment and a different story all together. Visit a battery mfg, plant and you will realize the impact of fumes. |
Originally Posted by khoj
(Post 1802555)
Even a tubular will lose performance as time goes by. Are the numbers above based on actual observations/experiences. Please see my earlier post on this thread, I think it is #38. On an average I have got more than 5 years of life from the SMFs that I have used thus far. Which is great and the best thing is that the SMF simply drops dead no degradation in performance, just sudden death. |
Originally Posted by Chipz
(Post 1802555)
a 100 Ah battery should power a 100 watt bulb for about 10 hours, or 500 watt bulb for 2.5 hours or near this value. The tubular battery usually gives about 2.15 hours backup at 500 watts. The sealed battery cannot keep up with this performance. |
Originally Posted by khoj
(Post 1802555)
I strongly believe that batteries should not be opened anywhere else but in either a recycling unit specific to batteries or in the manufacturing unit for recycling/disposal/R&D etc. If you can, you should visit one of the many battery repair/ manufacturing locations that abound in all of our cities, it is a snapshot from hell. |
Originally Posted by khoj
(Post 1802555)
Agree with you once again and it is nothing but a difference of perception. I perceive the SMF to be the best followed by shield/Xenon etc followed by the Tubulars and others. Your perception is the other way round and that is quite all right. We are all wired differently and correct in our own right. |
Originally Posted by rrswift
(Post 1802285)
@mvnr06 I have been using the 800VA Xenon sinewave inverter with 160AH battery for the past 18 months without any issues. It also powers my 40" LCD. I was able to use 2 Fans for about 8 hours when there was a electrical problem in the main swithboard of the apartment building. |
Originally Posted by Raccoon
(Post 1805315)
I'm very surprised to read all this about frequent topping up. You guys should mention the brands which require such frequent top ups. Like I'd mentioned earlier, our Amaron Shield hardly requires topping up even once a year. |
Originally Posted by Raccoon
(Post 1805315)
I'm very surprised to read all this about frequent topping up. You guys should mention the brands which require such frequent top ups. Like I'd mentioned earlier, our Amaron Shield hardly requires topping up even once a year. |
Originally Posted by Gansan
(Post 1805947)
I agree. I check my Amaron Shield once in two months, and it takes very little or no top up at all. |
Originally Posted by Chipz
(Post 1806013)
Is not both these contraindicated. Tubular batteries need checking water every 3 months, but mostly it needs topping up only once in 6 months (you may not even be needing to top up in a year sometimes). It is advisable to check every 3 months because repeated charging and discharging cycles like during power cuts, can cause the water to evapurate pretty fast. If the battery plates are not wholy submerged in the acid, then they will become hard (it cannot be reversed) and the backup is reduced. so it is advisible to check every 3 months. Similar is the case with semitubular and automotive. |
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