Google launches public DNS. Edit: See pg2 for choosing the best DNS servers for you

bj96 · 4th December 2009, 18:23

Anyone tried this yet? Google Public DNS

I will set this up on my home n/w and post feedback here.

-BJ

naveenroy · 4th December 2009, 18:37

Ouch - for those Google-haters, another chance to take potshots at it. Privacy and other ethical issues are bound to be brought up.

bj96 · 4th December 2009, 19:44

C:\Documents and Settings\BxxxxJxxx>nslookup team-bhp.com
Server: any-in-0808.1e100.net
Address: 8.8.8.8

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: team-bhp.com
Address: 96.30.20.23

C:\Documents and Settings\BxxxxJxxx>ping team-bhp.com

Pinging team-bhp.com [96.30.20.23] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 96.30.20.23: bytes=32 time=328ms TTL=50
Reply from 96.30.20.23: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=50
Reply from 96.30.20.23: bytes=32 time=331ms TTL=50
Reply from 96.30.20.23: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=50

Ping statistics for 96.30.20.23:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 327ms, Maximum = 331ms, Average = 328ms

I am using BSNL DataOne.

NutsNBolts · 4th December 2009, 21:40

Service will work, but how is it going to utilize private data? How much access Google gets to the innards of a system, is not spelled out clearly. Initially they might only harvest browsing patterns and sell that info to interested parties, slowly they are going to get intrusive.

optimist · 4th December 2009, 21:48

ISP: Airtel

nslookup team-bhp.com
Server: resolver1.opendns.com
Address: 208.67.222.222

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: team-bhp.com
Address: 96.30.20.23

ping team-bhp.com
Pinging team-bhp.com [96.30.20.23] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 96.30.20.23: bytes=32 time=282ms TTL=50
Reply from 96.30.20.23: bytes=32 time=280ms TTL=50
Reply from 96.30.20.23: bytes=32 time=283ms TTL=50
Reply from 96.30.20.23: bytes=32 time=282ms TTL=50

Ping statistics for 96.30.20.23:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 280ms, Maximum = 283ms, Average = 281ms

OpenDNS are highly recommended

sandeepmdas · 4th December 2009, 22:35

uTorrent speed test Speed Test - dslreports.com
Using Megapath, SF

ISP:ADL
download speed (Google DNS/ADL DNS):590kbps/312kbps
upload: 158kbps/240kbps
latency: 163ms/322ms

ISP: DataOne
download speed (Google DNS/BSNL DNS):687kbps/625kbps
upload: 420/410kbps
latency: 185/173

A Team-bhp ping returned 282ms average.

OT: just now discovered: DataOne has a vBulletin-friendly name. try typing

ataOne!

ph03n!x · 4th December 2009, 22:54

Before you use Google's open DNS, try this-

Find your ISP's DNS server IP addresses, and ping them - find the delay in ms
Ping 8.8.8.8 and see the delay

The delay for me is about 6 - 8 times more when I ping Open DNS - this is because my ISP's DNS are much closer than the open DNS servers.

While the millisecond delay is not too long, i dont see how the open dns can make things faster when reaching the server itself is taking a longer time than my ISP's DNS.

optimist · 5th December 2009, 00:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by ph03n!x

i dont see how the open dns can make things faster when reaching the server itself is taking a longer time than my ISP's DNS.

Disclaimer! i'm not for or recommending anything. Just my observations. YMMV

It's not about speed. Can't recollect the number of times the dataone's dns server (my home isp and ex-office) has failed to resolve. Problem immediately solved by OpenDNS.

They offer protection against a lot of threats also by blocking domains.
read on here: OpenDNS > Solutions > Overview

Well does your isp keep it's dns servers update?

response to google's dns service is here
OpenDNS Blog

AND google, the monopoly of the net, WILL try to control your internet!

Sahil · 5th December 2009, 01:32

Pardon my lack of techie know-how but what is thos DNS business?

Raccoon · 5th December 2009, 01:45

^^^ In short, the service that maps the URL you type to the IP address. If it wasn't there, you'd have to remember and type in 96.30.20.23 instead of team-bhp.com. Try it and see...

optimist · 5th December 2009, 02:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sahil

Pardon my lack of techie know-how but what is thos DNS business?

Let me google that for you

bj96 · 5th December 2009, 03:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sahil

Pardon my lack of techie know-how but what is thos DNS business?

it is somewhat like a telephone directory for computers. For example if i want sahil's number i will call up telephone enquiry (directory). If the directory has your number, all fine, otherwise it will direct me to another directory which probably has your number and so on...in computers too same happen. When i type http:// xyx . com/ a dns (directory) helps your computer find the number (ip address) of xyz . com computer.
-Bj

ps: posted from mobile device

Rehaan · 6th December 2009, 16:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by ph03n!x

Before you use Google's open DNS, try this-

Find your ISP's DNS server IP addresses, and ping them - find the delay in ms
Ping 8.8.8.8 and see the delay

The delay for me is about 6 - 8 times more when I ping Open DNS - this is because my ISP's DNS are much closer than the open DNS servers.

While the millisecond delay is not too long, i dont see how the open dns can make things faster when reaching the server itself is taking a longer time than my ISP's DNS.

I'm not sure why people are posting ping times to team-bhp as a reference, instead of pinging the DNS server.

For me, Google DNS 130ms ping is about 25ms faster than OpenDNS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by optimist

...It's not about speed. Can't recollect the number of times the dataone's dns server (my home isp and ex-office) has failed to resolve. Problem immediately solved by OpenDNS.

Absolutely true! If it was about speed, not much would be able to beat your ISPs DNS servers. (eg. Ping to MTNL DNS server is 25ms whereas Google DNS is 130ms)

The reason people switch is for more consistency and less problems.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sahil

Pardon my lack of techie know-how but what is thos DNS business?

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/1405754-post20.html

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pranavt · 6th December 2009, 18:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rehaan

I'm not sure why people are posting ping times to team-bhp as a reference, instead of pinging the DNS server.

LOL, so true. The best way to check the effectiveness of a DNS server is to:
1) Try making changes to a domain you control and seeing how long it takes to get them updated.
2) Pinging them directly, though that will only check ping times, not DNS response times.
3) Try quirky URLs, something like TO. -- Get Shorty URL

Raccoon · 6th December 2009, 20:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by pranavt

LOL, so true. The best way to check the effectiveness of a DNS server is to:
1) Try making changes to a domain you control and seeing how long it takes to get them updated.
2) Pinging them directly, though that will only check ping times, not DNS response times.
3) Try quirky URLs, something like TO. -- Get Shorty URL

Exactly! I have often suspected that BSNL's DNS servers often have high response times, which nullify the shorter ping time.

4th December 2009, 18:23	#1
bj96 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 1,081 Thanked: 1,551 Times View My Garage	Google launches public DNS. Edit: See pg2 for choosing the best DNS servers for you Anyone tried this yet? Google Public DNS I will set this up on my home n/w and post feedback here. -BJ
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4th December 2009, 18:37	#2
naveenroy Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,518 Thanked: 1,318 Times	Ouch - for those Google-haters, another chance to take potshots at it. Privacy and other ethical issues are bound to be brought up.
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4th December 2009, 19:44	#3
bj96 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 1,081 Thanked: 1,551 Times View My Garage	ping stats C:\Documents and Settings\BxxxxJxxx>nslookup team-bhp.com Server: any-in-0808.1e100.net Address: 8.8.8.8 Non-authoritative answer: Name: team-bhp.com Address: 96.30.20.23 C:\Documents and Settings\BxxxxJxxx>ping team-bhp.com Pinging team-bhp.com [96.30.20.23] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 96.30.20.23: bytes=32 time=328ms TTL=50 Reply from 96.30.20.23: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=50 Reply from 96.30.20.23: bytes=32 time=331ms TTL=50 Reply from 96.30.20.23: bytes=32 time=327ms TTL=50 Ping statistics for 96.30.20.23: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 327ms, Maximum = 331ms, Average = 328ms I am using BSNL DataOne. Last edited by bj96 : 4th December 2009 at 19:45. Reason: added ISP name
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4th December 2009, 21:40	#4
NutsNBolts BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Jammu Posts: 817 Thanked: 41 Times View My Garage	Service will work, but how is it going to utilize private data? How much access Google gets to the innards of a system, is not spelled out clearly. Initially they might only harvest browsing patterns and sell that info to interested parties, slowly they are going to get intrusive.
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4th December 2009, 21:48	#5
optimist BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 226 Thanked: 87 Times	OpenDNS ISP: Airtel nslookup team-bhp.com Server: resolver1.opendns.com Address: 208.67.222.222 Non-authoritative answer: Name: team-bhp.com Address: 96.30.20.23 ping team-bhp.com Pinging team-bhp.com [96.30.20.23] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 96.30.20.23: bytes=32 time=282ms TTL=50 Reply from 96.30.20.23: bytes=32 time=280ms TTL=50 Reply from 96.30.20.23: bytes=32 time=283ms TTL=50 Reply from 96.30.20.23: bytes=32 time=282ms TTL=50 Ping statistics for 96.30.20.23: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 280ms, Maximum = 283ms, Average = 281ms OpenDNS are highly recommended
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4th December 2009, 22:35	#6
sandeepmdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: 695141, SY208AA Posts: 1,575 Thanked: 2,729 Times	uTorrent speed test Speed Test - dslreports.com Using Megapath, SF ISP:ADL download speed (Google DNS/ADL DNS):590kbps/312kbps upload: 158kbps/240kbps latency: 163ms/322ms ISP: DataOne download speed (Google DNS/BSNL DNS):687kbps/625kbps upload: 420/410kbps latency: 185/173 A Team-bhp ping returned 282ms average. OT: just now discovered: DataOne has a vBulletin-friendly name. try typingataOne! Last edited by sandeepmdas : 4th December 2009 at 22:38.
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4th December 2009, 22:54	#7
ph03n!x Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 2,604 Thanked: 6,162 Times	Before you use Google's open DNS, try this- Find your ISP's DNS server IP addresses, and ping them - find the delay in ms Ping 8.8.8.8 and see the delay The delay for me is about 6 - 8 times more when I ping Open DNS - this is because my ISP's DNS are much closer than the open DNS servers. While the millisecond delay is not too long, i dont see how the open dns can make things faster when reaching the server itself is taking a longer time than my ISP's DNS.
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5th December 2009, 01:32	#9
Sahil Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 6,354 Thanked: 8,001 Times	Pardon my lack of techie know-how but what is thos DNS business?
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5th December 2009, 01:45	#10
Raccoon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Poona Posts: 1,851 Thanked: 116 Times	^^^ In short, the service that maps the URL you type to the IP address. If it wasn't there, you'd have to remember and type in 96.30.20.23 instead of team-bhp.com. Try it and see... Last edited by Raccoon : 5th December 2009 at 01:46.
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