Originally Posted by S_U_N

^If you are going to use one of those car chargers which connect to the cigarette lighter socket and plug into your micro-USB socket of you phone, then I am not sure if the charging will be faster than the discharging rate (with the maps application and GPS on).
I have read posts indicating that this would not manage to cope up the discharging rate, but someone else who has actually tried that could comment.

With GPS on, and map application running continuously, I think you would have to charge the phone daily.

Originally Posted by raj_5004 (Post 2581385)

Guys, is there any free navigation app for Android? No trial ones.

Originally Posted by vcash (Post 2581146)

How do you remove touch wiz? Do you mean root?

Originally Posted by naveenvenkatesh (Post 2581232)

How do i remove TouchWiz on my S2? Do i Need to root it? Isn't there any other way?

Originally Posted by sgiitk (Post 2581371)

only rooting htc phones is a bit of a pain, since first you have to get S-off. revolutionary.io will get you there.

Originally Posted by flyingkolors (Post 2581451)

1. Use Launcher Pro as a replacement to Touchwiz. No need to root.

2. Root the phone and there are plethora of options thereafter. You don't have to be afraid of rooting. There are multiple ways to do it and refer to something credible like XDA or Android Forums. (of course your warranty will be void). After all, Android is all about open source :-)

Originally Posted by sgiitk (Post 2581371)

@vcash; Get yourself an Incredible2. I have one and love it. It is a world phone (CDMA + GSM- only one active at a time). I had a Samsung Epic 4G before then, was unlucky, got a problem so traded it in. You may contact dkaile here or other good suppliers like HetalDP from Rimweb. I guess the Dinc2 is about 20-22k. Dinc2 is excellent, only rooting htc phones is a bit of a pain, since first you have to get S-off. revolutionary.io will get you there.

Originally Posted by flyingkolors (Post 2581451)

Please let me clarify. I do not use a Samsung so cant really give an affirmative answer. I use a HTC. However, there are 2 options as per the research I've done.

1. Use Launcher Pro as a replacement to Touchwiz. No need to root.

2. Root the phone and there are plethora of options thereafter. You don't have to be afraid of rooting. There are multiple ways to do it and refer to something credible like XDA or Android Forums. (of course your warranty will be void). After all, Android is all about open source :-)

Originally Posted by clevermax (Post 2581191)

Yes it is a workaround but for me it was really an exciting thing to do. But if you are not interested in enjoying that geekish satisfaction, then better to go for a model which satisfies all requirements out of the box. With all those tools available for doing this, this is not even geekish. Anyone who reads and understands the process can do it.

Originally Posted by joslicx (Post 2581212)

but looking at your requirements, its only Iphone 4S that meets all of them!!! Well, not all, its a bit pricy.

In Android universe, you can go with Samsung SII. Meets most of your requirements out of the box and in the price band. Only downside is, its too big and plasticy in looks (so doesnt look that premium). But you have mentioned you dont want to root. Then why Android?

Nexus will be pricy, I expect in Iphone 4S/Razr range.

I'd still say Lumia 800 is a great choice. Most of the useful apps would already be there on WinOS platform as well. And it is proven to be the most stable OS out there (google for it). The latest Metro UI is quite beautiful and useful as well. And cant go wrong with Nokia (their build quality is miles ahead of the plasticky Samsung). Anyway, your phone your call :)

Originally Posted by normally_crazy (Post 2581411)

Sygic - is free as good as free :D

Originally Posted by S_U_N

Let me read that thread again. Is RC 1.5 the most stable version?
My key criteria for an OS upgrade is stability, battery life. and performance (in that order).

Some posts indicate that CM 7 is poorer to the stock 2.2.2 and even 2.3 in terms of battery life. Hence I would like to try out 2.3 first and then see if CM7 is where I should be headed towards. In all cases, I need the ability to roll back to my stock 2.2.2 which Motorola has provided.

EDIT: I came across this link, in case I need to roll back to Froyo (2.2.2). Hope this is the best link and there is nothing else I need to do:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1093352

I had similar requirements and got the Defy in July/ August. It was 14.2K (final price) on Letsbuy. There is a newer version Defy+ which is a couple of thousand more.

Note that with Defy you would have to charge the phone every 3 days based on your usage (which is similar to mine). This is with no GPS, no GPRS, no WiFi, no music - just basic phone and messaging.

I am assuming that GPS is used only on long drives since it eats up the battery in a few hours. You would also need a provision to charge your phone in the car (I have purchased a Belkin travel adapter for Rs. 1450) and a windshield mount (or something similar) to complete your GPS solution.
The Belkin device gives AC output from the 12 V cigarette lighter socket.
(USB charging is slow, so I did not want to use that option)

Maps from Sygic are around Rs. 2000 and tied to the hardware (I think). So use the trial first and then pay them.

Regarding GPS, although the phone in stock form can handle the Sygic application, it is slow at times and gets stuck. So, a faster CPU is really required for such heavy applications.

I am yet to try an upgrade of Android and see if that helps. There is also a newer version of Sygic and will try that as well, but it will take me around one month to find time and do all of this.

Originally Posted by raj_5004 (Post 2581611)

What did you mean by "as good as free"? :)

Anyways, will download it & update soon. Thanks.

Originally Posted by normally_crazy (Post 2581941)

Go to XDA forums and get the Sygic maps and software. And you getting it from XDA - thats why its as good as free - :D

Originally Posted by chetans (Post 2578275)

Have googled quite a lot on that.
And read that their customer care is pathetic. (only weekdays 9am-6pm)
For example, they dont list the courier/airway tracking number.
The customer care calls doesnt get through, and you can rely on email.

But they do deliver the product although there might be delays.
expect roughly 15days of delivery time.

Also note that if octroi is applicable to your region, then you will have to
pay it. I think thats not the case with flipkart and letsbuy.
so for cost comparison across these portals, do consider the octroi part.

The good think is that sulekha does flash the octroi payment message when you select the shipping destination.

Overall expect the product via bad service.

Originally Posted by VW2010 (Post 2582013)

And its fantastic. Atleast for folks in Chennai and Bangalore. Not sure about down south.

But the navigation works very well