Used Car : Santro or WagonR

winlotwin · 20th March 2006, 09:32

Hi All,
I am about to buy a used car ... model of 2003 an higher.
Budget 1.8 to 2.2
I have narrowed my confusion to WagonR and Santro.
what I could find till now is that
WagonR is marginally better in terms of Maintenence, EPS, Fuel Economy
and Santro Xing is Definetly better in looks and space ( 5 seater)

what my requirements are (in preference order) :-
1 Trouble free ( least trouble)
2 low maintenece ( frequency of service and spares)
3 Driveability in crowded city ( where no traffic rule applies)
4 FE is not a big issue ( is to be used 20 kms a day at most)
5 space
6 looks

There are another option Alto and Esteem,
Esteem is better but I don't know if maintenence is higher than Santro/WagonR.... (I know that this is another segment but can be considered and budget can be stretched, main issue is ongoing costs)
Do you know when the Newer Esteem model was launced ( new look, tubeless tyres etc)
also when new look Wagon R was launched ?....

One more thing I would like to ask that santro is 5 seater and WagonR is 4 seater. But the width difference is merely 3 cm... does that make so much difference...

ok let me confuse myself again and you too... if ongoing costs are lesser and FE is not tooooo low then Baleno and Honda city ( what model should be ok... I mean year)

Also Absolute no no to palio...
somewhat no no to Indica

guys I am again confused .....

with regards

SLK · 20th March 2006, 10:01

Get santro or WagonR whatever you get at better price/ better maintained car.

Santro 5 seater ... WagonR 4 seater
Practicatly speaking both don't have space for the 5th person. Apart from that wagonRs rear seat is split, so it makes a little uncomfortable for the 5th person (though its still quite Ok)...

Santro has no front legroom & WagonR has no rear legroom! (so, i'd prefer wagonR here)

zulfikar · 20th March 2006, 10:38

I would goo for santro..
and i am not sure if you can get any of these 2 cars above 2003 model for 2.2L i think it would be higher... ********well not sure*********

DCEite · 20th March 2006, 11:22

The new look wagonR was launched sometime late 2003.

devarshi84 · 20th March 2006, 11:29

My experience says Both are equally fine. My Two Uncles drive the santro xing. My other uncle and we have a WagonR.

I dont think any owner can match this experience.

wagonR engine is smooth and performance oriented. Fun to drive. Seat for 4 is good and ample headroom being a tall boy. Our car gives us 15-16 in the city. My uncles gets the same FE . Interiors are average. If practicality in a car for a family of 4 is needed then WagonR meets the requirements.

Hyundai Santro has been equally good car. Looks are not boxy like the wagonR but engine is not smooth either. Service has been as good as Suzuki's. many would debate seating of 5 & The width in the rear seat is more than in WagonR which I have myself measured but I wonder how 5 adults can in anyway sit comfortably in a small hatch. Interiors are better than in WagonR. Both my uncles claim a FE of 14-15 which is pretty much similar to What the Japanese engine can extract.

Both cars can do a Max.speed of 130kmph +/- 5-10 kmph on speedo.

Choose any and you wont really go wrong.

k36 · 20th March 2006, 11:54

If you are going for used car, the actual condition matters a lot more than the model (including year) per say between WagonR and santro. Choose with care !

pingme · 20th March 2006, 12:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by k36

If you are going for used car, the actual condition matters a lot more than the model (including year) per say between WagonR and santro. Choose with care !

When I wend for my 2nd hand car, I went for a car which was in better condition for me it was WagonR

normally_crazy · 20th March 2006, 13:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by winlotwin

what my requirements are (in preference order) :-
1 Trouble free ( least trouble)
2 low maintenece ( frequency of service and spares)
3 Driveability in crowded city ( where no traffic rule applies)
4 FE is not a big issue ( is to be used 20 kms a day at most)
5 space
6 looks

One more thing I would like to ask that santro is 5 seater and WagonR is 4 seater. But the width difference is merely 3 cm... does that make so much difference...

Hey Winlotwin,

Amongst the 2 hatchs you mentioned - both are equally good in all the 5 requirments of yours. As for Santro being a 5 seater is more of a marketing gimmick rather than the car having actual space for the 5th person. Seating 5 in both is a cramped affair.

If I were you, I would go with the Hyundai Santro. The only reason that tilts my choice towards the Santro being: - I found that Hyundai A.S.S is better than the Maruti A.S.S.

Cheers

nitrous · 20th March 2006, 14:07

I'd prefer japs to koreans anyday.

aZa · 20th March 2006, 20:34

Me and my friend we both bought our cars a Santro (mine) and a WagonR (his) at the same time. Both after an year of use i'd say Santro still looks better and new and the plastics inside still have the new feel. I have a metallic shade and his is base white but the paint on the santro still look new and shiny. the engine too is smooth and feel fresh.

Secondly i didn't the like High'ish centre console in the WagonR (the Center AC vents) its just too high though i'm 6" tall or maybe its just me used to a santro. I found santro's seat far more confortable than wagonR and the switches too better quality than wagonR.

And as our moderator pointed out Hyundai's A.S.S (corny?) is better than MUL's

so there u have it my vote is for santro.

Ps. Santro a 5 seater ?? dats an eye wash with the front seats pulled all the way back there is no space for anyone but kids.

DCEite · 20th March 2006, 22:03

Maruti putting cheapo plastics in its cars is no new news. From 800 to Zen to Swift to Baleno.. i guess the interior quality is definitly below competetion.

LandCruiser · 21st March 2006, 00:11

After 50000 kms in 4 years my santro is still good. The engine is so smooth and i get 13 in city and 15 or little more on highways.

Except for the suspension I dont have any complaints about santro. It is a small car so cant expect 5 to be seated comfortably. Interior is good.

typeOnegative · 21st March 2006, 10:13

Both are equally good cars. Just see where you get the better deal. And a better maintained piece.

LLL · 21st March 2006, 10:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by winlotwin

One more thing I would like to ask that santro is 5 seater and WagonR is 4 seater. But the width difference is merely 3 cm... does that make so much difference...

That point had made the decision for me while buying my car 3 years back. Had opted for santro as person sitting on split seat would be really uncomfortable in W-R.

Zappo · 21st March 2006, 12:40

You started off with a "Santro or WagonR" question but then veered off to ask about Esteems, Balenos and even Honda City provided the recurring costs are not more. You said you can stretch your budget.

On this theme let me suggest you an option. Spend around Rs.2.8 and get a new Indica Xeta. The FE is around 14 in city, it is more cavernous than many of the booted cars, has beige interiors (looks good), is even peppier than what it used to be... and IMO looks good as well.

In fact think about it and you won't find a better deal than that. And you will get a new true-blue 5 seater and still pay the same that you will pay for a used car (which may mean regular expenses if you fail to identify the car properly at buying stage). Mind you Indica is the cheapest car to own in its segments (yes, not only diesel but even in petrol). That is because their parts are very cheap, service costs are low and the car comes with a 3 years' warranty... so its the ultimate peace of mind for such a low spend!

20th March 2006, 09:32	#1
winlotwin Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: bikaner Posts: 9 Thanked: 0 Times	Used Car : Santro or WagonR Hi All, I am about to buy a used car ... model of 2003 an higher. Budget 1.8 to 2.2 I have narrowed my confusion to WagonR and Santro. what I could find till now is that WagonR is marginally better in terms of Maintenence, EPS, Fuel Economy and Santro Xing is Definetly better in looks and space ( 5 seater) what my requirements are (in preference order) :- 1 Trouble free ( least trouble) 2 low maintenece ( frequency of service and spares) 3 Driveability in crowded city ( where no traffic rule applies) 4 FE is not a big issue ( is to be used 20 kms a day at most) 5 space 6 looks There are another option Alto and Esteem, Esteem is better but I don't know if maintenence is higher than Santro/WagonR.... (I know that this is another segment but can be considered and budget can be stretched, main issue is ongoing costs) Do you know when the Newer Esteem model was launced ( new look, tubeless tyres etc) also when new look Wagon R was launched ?.... One more thing I would like to ask that santro is 5 seater and WagonR is 4 seater. But the width difference is merely 3 cm... does that make so much difference... ok let me confuse myself again and you too... if ongoing costs are lesser and FE is not tooooo low then Baleno and Honda city ( what model should be ok... I mean year) Also Absolute no no to palio... somewhat no no to Indica guys I am again confused ..... with regards
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20th March 2006, 10:01	#2
SLK Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: DL XX XX XXXX Posts: 1,634 Thanked: 1,011 Times	Get santro or WagonR whatever you get at better price/ better maintained car. Santro 5 seater ... WagonR 4 seater Practicatly speaking both don't have space for the 5th person. Apart from that wagonRs rear seat is split, so it makes a little uncomfortable for the 5th person (though its still quite Ok)... Santro has no front legroom & WagonR has no rear legroom! (so, i'd prefer wagonR here)
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20th March 2006, 10:38	#3
zulfikar BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 532 Thanked: 18 Times View My Garage	I would goo for santro.. and i am not sure if you can get any of these 2 cars above 2003 model for 2.2L i think it would be higher... ******well not sure*******
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20th March 2006, 11:22	#4
DCEite Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NCR Posts: 3,418 Thanked: 2,567 Times	The new look wagonR was launched sometime late 2003.
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20th March 2006, 11:29	#5
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	My experience says Both are equally fine. My Two Uncles drive the santro xing. My other uncle and we have a WagonR. I dont think any owner can match this experience. wagonR engine is smooth and performance oriented. Fun to drive. Seat for 4 is good and ample headroom being a tall boy. Our car gives us 15-16 in the city. My uncles gets the same FE . Interiors are average. If practicality in a car for a family of 4 is needed then WagonR meets the requirements. Hyundai Santro has been equally good car. Looks are not boxy like the wagonR but engine is not smooth either. Service has been as good as Suzuki's. many would debate seating of 5 & The width in the rear seat is more than in WagonR which I have myself measured but I wonder how 5 adults can in anyway sit comfortably in a small hatch. Interiors are better than in WagonR. Both my uncles claim a FE of 14-15 which is pretty much similar to What the Japanese engine can extract. Both cars can do a Max.speed of 130kmph +/- 5-10 kmph on speedo. Choose any and you wont really go wrong. Last edited by devarshi84 : 20th March 2006 at 11:31.
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20th March 2006, 11:54	#6
k36 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 133 Thanked: 21 Times	If you are going for used car, the actual condition matters a lot more than the model (including year) per say between WagonR and santro. Choose with care !
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20th March 2006, 14:07	#9
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	I'd prefer japs to koreans anyday.
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20th March 2006, 20:34	#10
aZa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noida / Delhi Posts: 1,595 Thanked: 21 Times View My Garage	Me and my friend we both bought our cars a Santro (mine) and a WagonR (his) at the same time. Both after an year of use i'd say Santro still looks better and new and the plastics inside still have the new feel. I have a metallic shade and his is base white but the paint on the santro still look new and shiny. the engine too is smooth and feel fresh. Secondly i didn't the like High'ish centre console in the WagonR (the Center AC vents) its just too high though i'm 6" tall or maybe its just me used to a santro. I found santro's seat far more confortable than wagonR and the switches too better quality than wagonR. And as our moderator pointed out Hyundai's A.S.S (corny?) is better than MUL's so there u have it my vote is for santro. Ps. Santro a 5 seater ?? dats an eye wash with the front seats pulled all the way back there is no space for anyone but kids.
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20th March 2006, 22:03	#11
DCEite Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NCR Posts: 3,418 Thanked: 2,567 Times	Maruti putting cheapo plastics in its cars is no new news. From 800 to Zen to Swift to Baleno.. i guess the interior quality is definitly below competetion.
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21st March 2006, 00:11	#12
LandCruiser BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chennai Posts: 712 Thanked: 51 Times View My Garage	After 50000 kms in 4 years my santro is still good. The engine is so smooth and i get 13 in city and 15 or little more on highways. Except for the suspension I dont have any complaints about santro. It is a small car so cant expect 5 to be seated comfortably. Interior is good.
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21st March 2006, 10:13	#13
typeOnegative Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Vikhroli, Mumbai, India Posts: 1,503 Thanked: 27 Times	Both are equally good cars. Just see where you get the better deal. And a better maintained piece.
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21st March 2006, 12:40	#15
Zappo Team-BHP Support Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 5,922 Thanked: 2,699 Times	You started off with a "Santro or WagonR" question but then veered off to ask about Esteems, Balenos and even Honda City provided the recurring costs are not more. You said you can stretch your budget. On this theme let me suggest you an option. Spend around Rs.2.8 and get a new Indica Xeta. The FE is around 14 in city, it is more cavernous than many of the booted cars, has beige interiors (looks good), is even peppier than what it used to be... and IMO looks good as well. In fact think about it and you won't find a better deal than that. And you will get a new true-blue 5 seater and still pay the same that you will pay for a used car (which may mean regular expenses if you fail to identify the car properly at buying stage). Mind you Indica is the cheapest car to own in its segments (yes, not only diesel but even in petrol). That is because their parts are very cheap, service costs are low and the car comes with a 3 years' warranty... so its the ultimate peace of mind for such a low spend!
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