Which Car should I buy????

Ajaybiz · 1st March 2005, 19:19

Hi Friends,
M new to this forum and active member of XBHP, just now decided to buy a car but m confused about which should i go for as this Car m going to use it for another 2 years and after that i'll buy some other car with boot space. My criteria is a 2nd hand Hand Hatch back, with atleast 60 BHP engine. I short listed Alto 1.1 as others i dont like, like Santro and Wagon R's shape sucks, Fiat service problem, Indi seemd to be a Cab, 800 sucks in terms of power n AC. So the only option is to go for an Alto 1.1 i know it's been stopped more then a year ago but i dont have any other choice, kindly suggest about my decission and also the pricing of good Alto between 1-3 years old.

maybach · 1st March 2005, 19:21

Why dont you look at a Zen.. pretty good car in all aspects..

rohithdr · 1st March 2005, 19:25

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Originally Posted by Ajaybiz

Hi Friends,
i dont like, like Santro and Wagon R's shape sucks, Fiat service problem, Indi seemd to be a Cab, 800 sucks in terms of power n AC. So the only option is to go for an Alto 1.1 i know it's been stopped more then a year ago but i dont have any other choice, kindly suggest about my decission and also the pricing of good Alto between 1-3 years old.

I think so you can go for Alto 1.1 as you have eliminated all the A and B segment cars and also another good option is to check out for a Zen which you can get for a good price in the second hand market

Ajaybiz · 1st March 2005, 19:29

Thanks friedns for u r replies but i think ZEN is toooo old to buy in that much of price and putting a new head lamp, new grill, new tail lamp wont make it worth to buy. And i dont concider it as a good Car now.

maybach · 1st March 2005, 19:35

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Originally Posted by Ajaybiz

Thanks friedns for u r replies but i think ZEN is toooo old to buy in that much of price and putting a new head lamp, new grill, new tail lamp wont make it worth to buy. And i dont concider it as a good Car now.

The Zen is one of the best cars on the Indian roads

Also there is Getz but you wont find it in 2nd hand now

amit · 1st March 2005, 23:15

Have you test driven the Alto? the car is extremely uncomfortable for anyone more than 5ft 4in tall.

drifter · 1st March 2005, 23:34

Go for the Alto 1.1, but if fuel economy is not an issue, then consider the indica petrol (V2). better performance than the alto and overall a better car.

Indica V2 petrol
Likes
Excellent Ride
Good performance
Cheap spares
Spacious and comfortable.

Dislikes
Fuel efficiency (around 9kmpl in city and 15kmpl on highway)
Engine can be a touch noisy.
Gearshift quality could have been better.

An indica petrol v2 can be found pretty cheap as well in the second hand market. i sold my fully loaded 2 year old v2 for 2.8 lakhs.

Drifter

gamerno1 · 2nd March 2005, 02:09

i dunno why u say zen is NOT A GOOD CAR. im not saying because i own it, but the road is atleast 20% filled with zens

Ajaybiz · 2nd March 2005, 21:26

Hmmm i am 5'10" tall and i use to drive 800 5 years back without any problem, so i dont think so Alto creates any problem for my height. Indica daily i am getting from my company for pickups and drop so i dont wanted the same car for weekends too. Zen is in India for more then 10 years and in outside market it use to sold as Alto now its completly out from Abroad so i dont want outdated Car atleast for next 2 years.

DCEite · 2nd March 2005, 21:42

well, if i were you, i would have gone for the WagonR.
I am 5,11 and used to drive M800. And now i cannot drive M800 beacause it feels too cramped compared to the wagon. The front elbow, head, shoulder and legroom of wagonr are simply superb.

Infact, 1 and a half years ago.. i had similar views on wagonR.. (dabba shape)... and had decided to buy Alto.. but when i test drove both..WagonR was the clear winner.... its more modern (generations ahead of Zen), has a more powerful engine than Zen, as fuel efficient as Zen, has the same cost as Zen...
heck! why do ppl buy Zen???

maybach · 2nd March 2005, 22:14

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Originally Posted by dceite

well, if i were you, i would have gone for the WagonR.
I am 5,11 and used to drive M800. And now i cannot drive M800 beacause it feels too cramped compared to the wagon. The front elbow, head, shoulder and legroom of wagonr are simply superb.

Infact, 1 and a half years ago.. i had similar views on wagonR.. (dabba shape)... and had decided to buy Alto.. but when i test drove both..WagonR was the clear winner.... its more modern (generations ahead of Zen), has a more powerful engine than Zen, as fuel efficient as Zen, has the same cost as Zen...
heck! why do ppl buy Zen???

decite they have decresed the heights of the wagon R and santro after some complains of its toplling..

DCEite · 2nd March 2005, 22:29

well never heard of a wagonr toppling!.. infact heard somewhere in this forum that a Zen toppled while taking a U turn!...
I guess all cars are topple-tested before they are brought to the market. The ground clearance of wagonR is quite low (165mm)... so that brings down c.g a bit close to earth...

maybach · 2nd March 2005, 22:59

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Originally Posted by dceite

well never heard of a wagonr toppling!.. infact heard somewhere in this forum that a Zen toppled while taking a U turn!...
I guess all cars are topple-tested before they are brought to the market. The ground clearance of wagonR is quite low (165mm)... so that brings down c.g a bit close to earth...

that will make it lesser for it to topple.. as the lesser the ground clearance the more is the grip..

I have heard of earlier wagon r and santro (post 2000 models) topple..

how did a zen topple..

coloneljasi · 2nd March 2005, 23:05

There is no difference in the bodyshell of the New Wagon R.The Santro Xing only has minor frontal and rear differences,compared to the old 1.1.Both the Wagon R and the Xing are of the exact same height as their predecessors.All this talk about these cars toppling is all just loose talk.No car topples on its own,does it?A dimwit behind the wheel of one of the worlds best cars could manage to turn it on it's head.No fault of the wretched car,now is it?Unless you're talking about the infamous Elk test?But that's irrelevant in India anyway.The Wagon R & the Xing are quite capable cars in their category.The Zen WAS good.The new shape has destroyed it and let's face it,the interior is almost as cramped as an 800 (AND the Alto!!).No offence to the ex-world car,I still love to drive one,but it's getting old.Nuff said.

DCEite · 3rd March 2005, 08:26

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Originally Posted by maybach

that will make it lesser for it to topple.. as the lesser the ground clearance the more is the grip..

I have heard of earlier wagon r and santro (post 2000 models) topple..

how did a zen topple..

here is the link http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/showth...3&page=3&pp=15

1st March 2005, 19:19	#1
Ajaybiz BANNED Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,440 Thanked: 320 Times View My Garage	Which Car should I buy???? Hi Friends, M new to this forum and active member of XBHP, just now decided to buy a car but m confused about which should i go for as this Car m going to use it for another 2 years and after that i'll buy some other car with boot space. My criteria is a 2nd hand Hand Hatch back, with atleast 60 BHP engine. I short listed Alto 1.1 as others i dont like, like Santro and Wagon R's shape sucks, Fiat service problem, Indi seemd to be a Cab, 800 sucks in terms of power n AC. So the only option is to go for an Alto 1.1 i know it's been stopped more then a year ago but i dont have any other choice, kindly suggest about my decission and also the pricing of good Alto between 1-3 years old.
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1st March 2005, 19:21	#2
maybach BANNED Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Mumbai Posts: 266 Thanked: 0 Times	Why dont you look at a Zen.. pretty good car in all aspects..
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1st March 2005, 19:29	#4
Ajaybiz BANNED Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,440 Thanked: 320 Times View My Garage	Thanks friedns for u r replies but i think ZEN is toooo old to buy in that much of price and putting a new head lamp, new grill, new tail lamp wont make it worth to buy. And i dont concider it as a good Car now.
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1st March 2005, 23:15	#6
amit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 3,717 Thanked: 449 Times	Have you test driven the Alto? the car is extremely uncomfortable for anyone more than 5ft 4in tall.
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1st March 2005, 23:34	#7
drifter Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,488 Thanked: 75 Times View My Garage	Go for the Alto 1.1, but if fuel economy is not an issue, then consider the indica petrol (V2). better performance than the alto and overall a better car. Indica V2 petrol Likes Excellent Ride Good performance Cheap spares Spacious and comfortable. Dislikes Fuel efficiency (around 9kmpl in city and 15kmpl on highway) Engine can be a touch noisy. Gearshift quality could have been better. An indica petrol v2 can be found pretty cheap as well in the second hand market. i sold my fully loaded 2 year old v2 for 2.8 lakhs. Drifter Last edited by drifter : 1st March 2005 at 23:36.
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2nd March 2005, 02:09	#8
gamerno1 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Andheri (w), Mumbai Posts: 408 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	i dunno why u say zen is NOT A GOOD CAR. im not saying because i own it, but the road is atleast 20% filled with zens
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2nd March 2005, 21:26	#9
Ajaybiz BANNED Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,440 Thanked: 320 Times View My Garage	Hmmm i am 5'10" tall and i use to drive 800 5 years back without any problem, so i dont think so Alto creates any problem for my height. Indica daily i am getting from my company for pickups and drop so i dont wanted the same car for weekends too. Zen is in India for more then 10 years and in outside market it use to sold as Alto now its completly out from Abroad so i dont want outdated Car atleast for next 2 years.
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2nd March 2005, 21:42	#10
DCEite Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NCR Posts: 3,418 Thanked: 2,570 Times	well, if i were you, i would have gone for the WagonR. I am 5,11 and used to drive M800. And now i cannot drive M800 beacause it feels too cramped compared to the wagon. The front elbow, head, shoulder and legroom of wagonr are simply superb. Infact, 1 and a half years ago.. i had similar views on wagonR.. (dabba shape)... and had decided to buy Alto.. but when i test drove both..WagonR was the clear winner.... its more modern (generations ahead of Zen), has a more powerful engine than Zen, as fuel efficient as Zen, has the same cost as Zen... heck! why do ppl buy Zen???
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2nd March 2005, 22:29	#12
DCEite Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NCR Posts: 3,418 Thanked: 2,570 Times	well never heard of a wagonr toppling!.. infact heard somewhere in this forum that a Zen toppled while taking a U turn!... I guess all cars are topple-tested before they are brought to the market. The ground clearance of wagonR is quite low (165mm)... so that brings down c.g a bit close to earth...
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2nd March 2005, 23:05	#14
coloneljasi BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: KL-11 Posts: 686 Thanked: 251 Times View My Garage	There is no difference in the bodyshell of the New Wagon R.The Santro Xing only has minor frontal and rear differences,compared to the old 1.1.Both the Wagon R and the Xing are of the exact same height as their predecessors.All this talk about these cars toppling is all just loose talk.No car topples on its own,does it?A dimwit behind the wheel of one of the worlds best cars could manage to turn it on it's head.No fault of the wretched car,now is it?Unless you're talking about the infamous Elk test?But that's irrelevant in India anyway.The Wagon R & the Xing are quite capable cars in their category.The Zen WAS good.The new shape has destroyed it and let's face it,the interior is almost as cramped as an 800 (AND the Alto!!).No offence to the ex-world car,I still love to drive one,but it's getting old.Nuff said.
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