Urgent : Expert advice required (To decide on Ritz Diesel or Swift Diesel)

funda2max · 19th June 2009, 20:30

Team BHP Experts,

I need an urgent expert advice from you to decide on a new car which i am planning to book tomorrow. The choice is narrowed between Ritz Diesel vs Swift Diesel. Since my travelling per month would be around 2000Kms, i am sticking with Diesel car. My expectations are here

1) Decent pick up (Low end torque)
2) Decent mileage
3) Decent rear seat comfort for a family of 4
4) Good handling.

Since TATA refused to give me a Punto, it is out of league.

Thanks Folks.

unni.ak · 19th June 2009, 21:10

Have you test driven both? I'd say go with the Ritz. Pick-Up and Mileage will be approximately same for both cars since they share the engine. I've read some where on the forum (or else where) that Ritz is more comfortable of the two owing to softer suspension setup and that it has more head room at the back. Handling-wise Swift leads, but Ritz is very close by.

And, I guess you have set your mind on the Ritz. Your signature reads Ritz!!!

Parm · 19th June 2009, 21:45

Swift has become boring as there are too many of them on the road now!

Ritz is totaly new and you would like to own a new car, so go for it!

Ritz is a tall boy design, so it gives a body roll when you take a tight sharp turn. you have to get use to its handling before you go to higher speeds.

Drive safe and wear you seat belt!

funda2max · 19th June 2009, 21:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by unni.ak

Have you test driven both? I'd say go with the Ritz. Pick-Up and Mileage will be approximately same for both cars since they share the engine. I've read some where on the forum (or else where) that Ritz is more comfortable of the two owing to softer suspension setup and that it has more head room at the back. Handling-wise Swift leads, but Ritz is very close by.

And, I guess you have set your mind on the Ritz. Your signature reads Ritz!!!

Yes, I have test driven both and found Ritz is lighter and has more direct control. Yes, I wanted to go for Ritz but my family insists on getting TBHP advice.

gods-envy · 19th June 2009, 21:48

I test drove the Ritz before the GP and found it quite suiting my requirements.
go for the ritz

k2max6 · 19th June 2009, 22:03

Swift feels more planted on the road as compared to the Ritz and has better handling.
Rest remains for the looks .(Subjective)

pulsar56 · 19th June 2009, 22:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by funda2max

Yes, I have test driven both and found Ritz is lighter and has more direct control. Yes, I wanted to go for Ritz but my family insists on getting TBHP advice.

Ritz is new! If you don't mind a weird back, go for it. Else, settle with the trusted workhorse - Swift! (neglecting the rattles!

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sjcherian · 19th June 2009, 22:24

I have to yet drive the Ritz diesel (planning to do so tomorrow) but I can give the perspective of being a Swift owner and some observations while doing a Petrol Ritz TD.

I found the interior space seems more airy and roomy because of the larger windows and taller roof. It can comfortably seat 5. The Swift can comfortably seat 4, however the 5th one will be cramped.
The open glove box in addition to the closed one on the Ritz is very useful - something the Swift doesn’t have and wastes space because of the airbags. The coin holder and storage space on the top of the dashboard is also good. Glove box seems similar in size to the Swift.
Lot of the interior is borrowed/shared with the Swift but still some cost cutting seems to have been there. Indicator/Wiper stalks, steering wheel, door locks & power window switches are all the same. Ashtray is the same. Gear lever knob is almost the same. Interior roof light seems the same.
The front door pockets of the Ritz have storage space for bottles. There is only one central console mounted cup holder. The Swift cannot hold more than papers in the door pockets. Cupholders are in the middle.
Air conditioning on the test vehicle I drove (ZXI) seemed just about adequate (maybe the larger glass areas and lack of tints on the Demo car and the hot summer sun was a factor). I may have been spoilt by driving around with climate control and dark tinted small windows in the Swift. Blower fan gets noisy at “3″ position. The side vents close fully and are a design different from the Swift.
It took some time to get used to the gear shifter because it is positioned almost a half a foot ahead of the gear shifter in the Swift/most cars. The gear shifter felt really good and the shifts were very precise - even better than the Swift. For people with multiple cars this gear shift will be a difficult to get used to, especially when you have to switch cars daily.
Boot space is almost equal but the Ritz has the advantage of the 60-40 folding rear seat which the Swift doesnt come with. I think this is very useful if this will be your only car. (If luggage space is not your concern almost everything else is well matched).
The Ritz has more mature looks and is a bit more sober from the front. The view From the rear it really is an acquired taste :-).
Pickup and mileage of the Ritz would be similar to the Swift. But I would say for handling the Swift would be better.
You should test drive both and choose the car that appeals to you and your family. We can give you the data points but the vehicle has to appeal to the primary driver and owner the immediate family that will spend hours on end in the vehicle during the years of ownership.

Roy.S · 19th June 2009, 23:12

The Ritz. There are too many swifts on our roads. Gets monotonous.

KRf1 · 20th June 2009, 06:12

There is absolutely no backseat comfort or legroom in the swift , especially if a tall driver is driving .

gemithomas · 20th June 2009, 09:38

There is just one main thing. If you love to take high speed turns without any body-roll and can compromise comfort a little bit for that you should gofor the swift. If you want better ride comfort and little more airy feel and space at rear go for the Ritz. I think wverything else is more or less the same.

ashthedivx · 20th June 2009, 10:08

Don't know of Ritz, but Swift certainly lack backseat space.

Why don't you try taking up your family at maruti dealership, take a test drive with all of them on board and ask for their comfortableness ?? Since both car belongs to maruti stable it wont be a big hassle.

adithyav · 20th June 2009, 11:07

Ritz for sure -- performance wise they'll be similar. Swift might be a better handler but that is only marginal. Ritz is more of a family car than the swift and it is also brand new so you won't blend into the crowd. The Ritz is also a lot more practical despite the low boot space.

kpzen · 20th June 2009, 12:17

Urgent advice : Ritz DDIS

Expert advice : Wait till July and u might have a stunning 1.4 CRDi hatch.

pedrolourenco · 20th June 2009, 12:30

Expert advice: Ritz
Common Sense: Swift
Passion: Punto
Experts seem to be lacking in Common sense & Passion.

19th June 2009, 20:30	#1
funda2max BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 377 Thanked: 26 Times	Urgent : Expert advice required (To decide on Ritz Diesel or Swift Diesel) Team BHP Experts, I need an urgent expert advice from you to decide on a new car which i am planning to book tomorrow. The choice is narrowed between Ritz Diesel vs Swift Diesel. Since my travelling per month would be around 2000Kms, i am sticking with Diesel car. My expectations are here 1) Decent pick up (Low end torque) 2) Decent mileage 3) Decent rear seat comfort for a family of 4 4) Good handling. Since TATA refused to give me a Punto, it is out of league. Thanks Folks.
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19th June 2009, 21:10	#2
unni.ak BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 777 Thanked: 84 Times View My Garage	Have you test driven both? I'd say go with the Ritz. Pick-Up and Mileage will be approximately same for both cars since they share the engine. I've read some where on the forum (or else where) that Ritz is more comfortable of the two owing to softer suspension setup and that it has more head room at the back. Handling-wise Swift leads, but Ritz is very close by. And, I guess you have set your mind on the Ritz. Your signature reads Ritz!!!
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19th June 2009, 21:45	#3
Parm Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: in a Toyota! Posts: 2,753 Thanked: 890 Times	Swift has become boring as there are too many of them on the road now! Ritz is totaly new and you would like to own a new car, so go for it! Ritz is a tall boy design, so it gives a body roll when you take a tight sharp turn. you have to get use to its handling before you go to higher speeds. Drive safe and wear you seat belt!
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19th June 2009, 21:48	#5
gods-envy BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 474 Thanked: 38 Times View My Garage	I test drove the Ritz before the GP and found it quite suiting my requirements. go for the ritz
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19th June 2009, 22:03	#6
k2max6 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 523 Thanked: 183 Times	Swift feels more planted on the road as compared to the Ritz and has better handling. Rest remains for the looks .(Subjective)
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19th June 2009, 22:24	#8
sjcherian BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chennai Posts: 493 Thanked: 585 Times	I have to yet drive the Ritz diesel (planning to do so tomorrow) but I can give the perspective of being a Swift owner and some observations while doing a Petrol Ritz TD. I found the interior space seems more airy and roomy because of the larger windows and taller roof. It can comfortably seat 5. The Swift can comfortably seat 4, however the 5th one will be cramped. The open glove box in addition to the closed one on the Ritz is very useful - something the Swift doesn’t have and wastes space because of the airbags. The coin holder and storage space on the top of the dashboard is also good. Glove box seems similar in size to the Swift. Lot of the interior is borrowed/shared with the Swift but still some cost cutting seems to have been there. Indicator/Wiper stalks, steering wheel, door locks & power window switches are all the same. Ashtray is the same. Gear lever knob is almost the same. Interior roof light seems the same. The front door pockets of the Ritz have storage space for bottles. There is only one central console mounted cup holder. The Swift cannot hold more than papers in the door pockets. Cupholders are in the middle. Air conditioning on the test vehicle I drove (ZXI) seemed just about adequate (maybe the larger glass areas and lack of tints on the Demo car and the hot summer sun was a factor). I may have been spoilt by driving around with climate control and dark tinted small windows in the Swift. Blower fan gets noisy at “3″ position. The side vents close fully and are a design different from the Swift. It took some time to get used to the gear shifter because it is positioned almost a half a foot ahead of the gear shifter in the Swift/most cars. The gear shifter felt really good and the shifts were very precise - even better than the Swift. For people with multiple cars this gear shift will be a difficult to get used to, especially when you have to switch cars daily. Boot space is almost equal but the Ritz has the advantage of the 60-40 folding rear seat which the Swift doesnt come with. I think this is very useful if this will be your only car. (If luggage space is not your concern almost everything else is well matched). The Ritz has more mature looks and is a bit more sober from the front. The view From the rear it really is an acquired taste :-). Pickup and mileage of the Ritz would be similar to the Swift. But I would say for handling the Swift would be better. You should test drive both and choose the car that appeals to you and your family. We can give you the data points but the vehicle has to appeal to the primary driver and owner the immediate family that will spend hours on end in the vehicle during the years of ownership.
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19th June 2009, 23:12	#9
Roy.S BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 707 Thanked: 946 Times	The Ritz. There are too many swifts on our roads. Gets monotonous.
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20th June 2009, 06:12	#10
KRf1 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NCR / BLR Posts: 339 Thanked: 3 Times	There is absolutely no backseat comfort or legroom in the swift , especially if a tall driver is driving .
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20th June 2009, 09:38	#11
gemithomas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 2,366 Thanked: 143 Times View My Garage	There is just one main thing. If you love to take high speed turns without any body-roll and can compromise comfort a little bit for that you should gofor the swift. If you want better ride comfort and little more airy feel and space at rear go for the Ritz. I think wverything else is more or less the same.
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20th June 2009, 10:08	#12
ashthedivx Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 1,356 Thanked: 24 Times	Don't know of Ritz, but Swift certainly lack backseat space. Why don't you try taking up your family at maruti dealership, take a test drive with all of them on board and ask for their comfortableness ?? Since both car belongs to maruti stable it wont be a big hassle.
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20th June 2009, 11:07	#13
adithyav BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 38 Thanked: 0 Times	Ritz for sure -- performance wise they'll be similar. Swift might be a better handler but that is only marginal. Ritz is more of a family car than the swift and it is also brand new so you won't blend into the crowd. The Ritz is also a lot more practical despite the low boot space.
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20th June 2009, 12:17	#14
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,610 Thanked: 1,876 Times View My Garage	Urgent advice : Ritz DDIS Expert advice : Wait till July and u might have a stunning 1.4 CRDi hatch.
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20th June 2009, 12:30	#15
pedrolourenco Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Margao, Goa Posts: 1,268 Thanked: 1,527 Times View My Garage	Expert advice: Ritz Common Sense: Swift Passion: Punto Experts seem to be lacking in Common sense & Passion.
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