Hi all,
Hope my experience helps those who takes there fiat cars for service to Tata(concorde motors) or Javali, Bangalore.
My Car is Petra 1.6 EL (2005 model)
After coming back from a long trip of Bangalore-Shimoga-Udupi-Mangalore-Hassan-Bangalore, I Gave my car to Javali for a regular service. They changed, engine oil, Coolant, cleaned Brake pads etc.. + Rs500 for Service.Total cost of service = Rs 2700(approx).
Took the car back and drove back home. Next morning(8:00am) when I tried to start my car, Car refused to start. Cranking was good enough but Engine refused to fire. Tried for next 5 minutes and gave a call to breakdown service of Javali.Those service guys arrived at around 10.30am and tried to start the car, but to all our surprise, car started in its first crank
.Tried a few more times, Car started in One crank so the mechanic left saying they cannot find the problem until the problem gets reproduced. Breakdown Services charges - RS 200.
I drove the car the whole day without any problem. But the car again didn't start next morning(Around 9am.).. Just with previous days experience, I started the car again after 10.00am and the car started. Took the car straight to Javali motors and told the problem to them. Also told them that problem have started after the service of the car. Service Guys asked me to take the car to some other service station ( Preferably Tata) because they didn't have a ECU analyzer for Petra 1.6.They suspected that the problem may be in ECU.
I called Concorde( Tata ) if they have a Analyzer and got a positive Answer. Took my car to them. Car was checked with Analyzer and they did not find any problem. All codes were fine. Left my car at workshop thinking that problem may get reproduced next morning. Called them next morning to know that Car started after a few cranks. They analyzed the ECU and found nothing wrong. Suspected the fuel filter so replaced it and asked me to take the car. Picked my Car at around 4pm after starting it a few times and took back home.
Cost of Service & Spare - Rs325
Next morning Again the same problem, Car did not start. Called Concorde workshop and told the problem. Tata Guys were very courteous, They sent a Driver to pick the car from my home(Free of charge). Car was sent to Workshop on Monday.Now I got a call on Tuesday morning saying that the problem have been found and Coolant sensor have gone bad. So they replaced the sensor with another 1.6 vehicle which was in workshop and the car started.I asked them to keep the car for one more morning and test if the problem have really gone.Next morning, I called them and got the know that Car was not starting with the Coolant sensor also. So bad Coolant sensor was ruled out.
These things kept happening for next 4 days, Every day service people used to tell that the problem was fixed and I can take the car but as per my request they kept the car for next morning and the car did not start.
On Friday (5th day) they finally called me that ECU have gone bad and Car start fine with another Palio's ECU. They asked me to send a mail to Fiat Service to send a ECU so that they can get it soon.
I just wanted to be safe, so asked them to test the vehicle again next morning with other ECU. I also told them That I will be reaching there workshop at 7.00am(since it was weekend holiday for me). Reached workshop and started the car( Different ECU) and with no surprise Car refused to start. The other Petra which have my car's ECU started in first crank.
I waited for there service advisor to arrive and asked him to explain what all things he have checked. I asked them to check vapor sensor, Lambda Sensor and Fuel Pump also. They checked it and all of them worked fine with the other car. The way they were working, I started suspecting if they really got trained by Fiat or not . They looked like doing all there PHD on my vehicle. I asked there works Manager to deliver the car. It was 12.00pm afternoon and Car started. so I took the car after paying Rs 319 ( I don't know for what
).
Next morning after a repeated cranking, Car started at 10.00am, I decided to take the car to Javali.
Just traveling around 1/2 km. Car stopped and refused to start. Called Javali breakdown Service. Those people reached in next 1 hr, Tried starting the car and it started in first crank. Took the car to javali and explained about what all things have been checked. Service Advisor promised me to give the car in 2 days saying there may be some electrical problem.
Next morning I called the Service Guys and got to know that Current is not reaching spark plugs and Fuel Pump. They exchanged the relay(red one) from bonnet to Black one( which is below the steering wheel where all electrical fuses are fixed)
Car started in first Crank. They kept the car for one more morning to make sure and starting problem had gone, Next morning car started fine at even 7.00am. As per service Guys working for more than 10 yrs in Fiat have never came across this kind of weird problem
Paid Rs 320 for there Breakdown service + Labor and drove the car back home.It has been more than 1 week and I am starting my car every morning at 6.00am to make sure the problem have gone or not.
Looks like there is no starting problem now and I have been driving my car as before.
Moral of the story is
Always take the car to a place who are more competent and Experienced in servicing your car.
Happy Driving
GD