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Originally Posted by amit_purohit20 I am more worried about the misuse of these large fines, that means more money going in the pocket of traffic policemen. |
With the advent of technology such as Intelligent Traffic Management Systems and Bangalore Traffic police initiatives, most of the offences are caught on camera, recorded and e-challans are issued. The offence is viewed on line and fine is paid online. so actually with the present initiatives, the local traffic policeman has much lesser possibility to take a bribe.
It takes time, but slowly I guess technology will help the traffic department to get better of this bribe menace.
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Originally Posted by zalaps If you can not educate road safety to people.
Mandate safety features.
For every variant of vehicle ABS & Airbags must be fitted. |
true, but the technology also costs money and this will jack the prices of automobiles up. I read somewhere that from 2015 or 16, ABS is going to be mandatory in all vehicles. Airbags are fine in 4 wheelers but the majority of the victims on road are 2 wheelers and pedestrians. Safety features + awareness / education / road manners is needed
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Originally Posted by honeybee Surprised to see most of these are sensible changes.
But then it's the implementation which will be the key part. |
I remember when once I was stopped in Bangalore on ORR for speeding (unfortunately I was just a shade above the 60Kmph limit) and the police checked my car history in their website if there were any pending fines with my car. There were none and I had to pay Rs. 300/- for speeding. so with technology playing a major part ( thousands of ccTV cameras/ Black Berrys deployed with the constables to check the history) I think slowly implementation will fall in line slowly.
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Originally Posted by sdp1975 Today I jumped a red light because of the chaotic traffic situation. Noticed the red light almost on the middle of the road, couldn't stop half way through , got fined 100 bucks.
Maybe these folks amending the laws should first try improving the traffic infrastructure . And what about the bullock carts , horses ,cyclists and unruly pedestrians ? I guess the rules apply only to motorized vehicles , not for other users of the roads.
Just another way of earning revenues like road tax, nothing more really.
And if the fines are too steep, there will be people contesting it in court than paying up. And this will encourage more bribery with traffic cops as well. And when the truck driver pays a 3k fine, he's going to recover it by hiking his transportation rates - ie indirectly it will hit my and your pocket, and in inflation . |
No sdp1975, this will not lead to inflation. Fines need to be too steep to create fear and then awareness and then compliance. The police armed with the ccTVs will have the footage and contesting in court is only a waste of time and court levies a higher fine than that on the road ( I have seen instances in that regard). and If a truck driver pays a 3K fine, next time onwards he will be extra careful ( and who knows many life on the road may be saved by such careful driving).
I read in some scripture that there are 4 ways to solve a issue- Sama, Dhaana, Bedha and Danda. Sama is telling nicely / advising, Dhaana is by offering some incentives / rebates / bonus to do things right, Bedha is dividing / creating a rift/ this is better than that/ doing this is good than that way /illusion/deceit and stuff like that and danda is using the stick. Unfortunately in India, the people understand only the sound of a whip / stick to fall in line and nice words fall on deaf ears and if that is the only way to make people understand so be it and that is what is happening with heavy fines now.
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Originally Posted by MavericK46 So doing 60kph on a motorcycle (Amounts to speeding in Bangalore as the speed limit is 50kph) is gonna cost say 3k?
And this is a major traffic offence? |
Yes. it is a major traffic offence. We all know the traffic speed limits are all outdated, but if the traffic department have their way, it is a major traffic offence. rather a traffic offence ( Major and Minor are our interpretations on the repercussions of breaking the law to the extent of damage it does monetarily and physically) But otherwise all are just traffic offences and all could possibly lead and result in some fatal / serious mishaps if not adhered to.
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Originally Posted by nitinralli I would have loved if they would have added a rule for cyclist/pedestrians. Ban on HEADPHONES while riding/walking. This is a serious hazard. And then when a car hits them, people start harassing car driver without realizing the fault of the pedestrian. |
Yes. very true. jaywalking has to made an offence too. But again only proper education can help in this regard.
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Originally Posted by joybhowmik The real question is what is the incentive?
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Incentive in my opinion is better behaviour (peace) on road/lesser chaos / lesser road rage / better lane discipline / less traffic jams . I think that is incentive enough to be a better motorist on road.
I say this because, if every person chided / mocked our system and drove carelessly / recklessly / stupidly , and nobody even tried to do their little bit to be a better motorist on road, then the situation will only become worse.
On my part, I cannot change the system, but the least I can do is to drive carefully, follow rules, give respect to others on road, honk as little as possible (even if it meant that I arrive a bit late at destination or have to wait longer in the traffic) I feel I have done my bit and if all of us do our little bit, we should have a peaceful happy motorist on every Indian road.