Team-BHP - Hyundai's AMT to debut on the new Santro

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Originally Posted by 2000rpm (Post 4442194)

I think it will. In a lot of semi urban areas, maruti and hyundai are the only two players (with tata). The most popular car there is an Wagon R or Alto. These two models will take the maximum hit with the Celerio due to the santro AMT.

Let us see; I will reassess my prediction once I see the new Santro in flesh.

Wagon R is in a league of it's own. The new Santro may eat littlebit into the share of Celerio in urban areas IMO. It may also pull some of the volumes of Grand i10.

I hope that even if Hyundai do decide to debut their AMT box with Santro, they keep it limited to their cheaper offerings only. Maybe the Santro, Gi10 and Xcent. i20 onwards demand atleast a CVT.

The 4 speed AT Hyundai uses in Gi10 (I guess it's the same one they used in old Santro / i10 / i20 / Verna) is a pleasure to drive from refinement perspective.

I have driven over 94K kms in my i10, and it has negotiated everything from stretches of foxholes collectively called roads to butter smooth NH - without any complaints. Perhaps it was best suited for i10 whose light weight ensures that if required, one can sprint between stoplights ahead of the pack.
Only fly in the ointment is the FE (or the lack thereof) hovering around 12-13 kmpl averaged out.

But guess times call for removal of TC boxes from budget cars, all we see around are AMT & CVT.

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Originally Posted by GTO (Post 4441543)

I don't think an AMT will suit a Hyundai (or VW) because of the brand's focus on quality

Conventional ATs have a greater power loss than AMTs. (Although the gap is being closed in the last 10 years) The performance will be terrible with small engines.

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The Grand i10 and up are available with torque converters and that should stay. Although I'm sure Hyundai will be tempted to simply bolt an AMT onto the diesel i10 & i20, they should consider Honda's success with the Amaze Diesel CVT first. There is definitely a market out there for smooth ATs.

You read my mind. Conventional ATs are so much smoother, I don't think I can drive a jerky AMT.

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Could they also plonk their triple-cylinder diesel? IMHO, they should.

I disagree here. The Maruti celerio was a failure and this segment has fuel-efficient cars.

With diesels being banned, I see no market for small diesels.

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Originally Posted by hserus (Post 4442036)

Didn't the Santro Xing have an automatic version

Yes, a friend swore by the car. It was superior to a WagonR AT which had 3 speeds.

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Originally Posted by niteshbids (Post 4442948)

AMT doesn't require ATF. Just the regular MT oil. So are they really bringing AMT or a full blown AT like Grand i10?

AMT is the same MT with a hydraulically operated clutch and shifters. There's no requirement for a special transmission fluid. So, you've confirmed an AMT.
I think it'll mostly be an AMT for the reasons of cost and power.

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Originally Posted by blackasta (Post 4442951)

I hope that even if Hyundai do decide to debut their AMT box with Santro, they keep it limited to their cheaper offerings only.....Gi10 and Xcent

The 4 speed AT Hyundai uses in Gi10 (I guess it's the same one they used in old Santro / i10 / i20 / Verna) is a pleasure to drive from refinement perspective.

I love the 4 speed on the Gi10. I think it's one of the best out there for small engines. I'd prefer Hyundai restrict the AMT to Santro, Eon and diesel i10/Xcent.

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Originally Posted by landcruiser123 (Post 4442955)

I've not confirmed an AMT. Rather, quite the contrary. I'm saying that as Hyundai is lookong for an ATF, it would be for a TC Automatic as AMT wouldn't require it