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Old 3rd November 2018, 09:01   #16
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re: Bangalore considering 2-year ban on new vehicle registrations

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The Karnataka state Government is contemplating banning of New vehicle registrations for a period of two years.

The Deputy Chief Minister Dr Parmeshwar, who is also in charge of Bangalore City, has recently been quoted in an interview recently.

Also an article in the Indian Express on the pros and cons of the ban.
http://www.newindianexpress.com/citi...op-1891743.amp

Looks like we are heading for tough legislations to curb the traffic and environmental issues.

However it remains to be seen as to how this will be handled without proper public transport and other infrastructure required for such a ban.

Apparently a lot of brainstorming is currently underway and a decision will be made shortly.

The good thing is atleast the government is thinking of proactively solving the traffic and pollution levels of Bangalore.
Bangalore traffic is s gridlock. I hear the metro was ill conceived. More of a token offering than anything serious. Anything to sort it out is welcome. I have great doubts whether they will do anything for the public transport!
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Old 3rd November 2018, 09:12   #17
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Well, knowing successive Karnataka govt's over the years - this is just a setting to hike the road tax higher! And neighboring states would follow suit soon, so its all connected!
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This is a typical politician's way of handling a serious situation. The govt after govt failed to improve infrastructure and public transport in Bangalore. Easiest solution is ban. Ban new vehicle registration, ban some cars on some days like odd even scheme. These are dozens of possibilities which should be tried out first.
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Leaning on the auto dealer principals ahead of 5/19?
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re: Bangalore considering 2-year ban on new vehicle registrations

Experts say the growth in vehicle registration is alarming

1,900 new vehicles get registered in Bangalore everyday.

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Prof. Ashish Verma from the Indian Institute of Science said, “Creating any amount of road infrastructure is not sufficient and remain unsustainable if the vehicle population continues to go grow at this rate. The government should take measures to curb the ownership of vehicles and their usage. In many cities in China and other countries, government have introduced several measures to curb the registration of new vehicles, like a cap on the number of registrations per year.”
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It looks like, the statement is not a knee jerk reaction, rather an advisory from experts. If no corrective action is taken, the predictions such as this news alarm complete chaos by 2022.

When a city runs out of options to improve road infrastructure such as Singapore, restricting vehicles may be required. Do the limitations of Singapore also apply to Bangalore, not sure. May be to old Mumbai which is similarly land locked like Singapore.

IMO, exorbitant BMTC rates and lack of train/metro services given the size of city is a critical contributor to rapid growth of private vehicles. The Government cannot simply ban registrations without having a solution to those who will hit the public transportation otherwise.

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When a city runs out of options to improve road infrastructure such as Singapore, restricting vehicles may be required. Do the limitations of Singapore also applies to Bangalore, not sure. May be to old Mumbai which is similarly land locked like Singapore.
Indeed Singapore is leaps and bounds ahead when it comes to public transport. It can therefore throttle the registration of cars as necessary without inconveniencing citizens.

Indian cities have a long way to go for catching up with Singapore.

Here's a recent study on public transport in Indian cities

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/66476386.cms
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I somehow feel that the registration ban not only for Bangalore for all major metros is a must. It might come as a knee jerk reaction but thats what is needed in this hour. The roads network in metros has still remained the same where as there has been an exponential rise in the vehicles plying on the road. The recent example of 60K radio cabs off the road in Mumbai, Thane eased the traffic by 60%. This shows that this is a serious overburden on the infrastructure. I am for it if the public transportation is given an impetus rather than private vehicle registration.
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I think banning registration of new cars is not a good idea in respect of the market situation and people's sentiment attached to it. It will not only create hardship for the industry as a whole which generates large amount of revenue for the govt. and thousands of jobs, it will send a wrong signal to the rest of the world about the business environment in our country. Instead a better option would be to mandate scrapping of existing cars of certain years old or restricting number of vehicles a person can register in his/her name. For someone who has a 7-8 years old car and wants to purchase a new car, if the govt. mandates scrapping of his existing vehicle, it will either deter him from purchasing a new car or he will buy a new car after scrapping his old car which will eventually limit the increase in number of cars on road. There may be some other better ways to tackle the situation here but banning something is not the solution to any problem yet our govt. be it state or central govt. are very fond of this idea these days.
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Indeed Singapore is leaps and bounds ahead when it comes to public transport. It can therefore throttle the registration of cars as necessary without inconveniencing citizens.

Indian cities have a long way to go for catching up with Singapore.
Same is the case with London. No one ever drives into Central London, since the city is so beautifully connected by railways and has one of the best bus networks in the world. Indian cities have a lot to learn. The way to address this problem is to build a good metro and feeder bus network into and within city centers, and charge steep parking charges (Rs 200 to Rs 300)
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re: Bangalore considering 2-year ban on new vehicle registrations

Typical of Indian governments, to take impractical decisions which look good on the surface. The great thing about such decisions are that the government will take credit in trying to do something, but they don't have to do anything since the decision is infeasible anyway.

While the traffic situation in BLR is terrifyingly bad, banning things is not the solution. If you are going to take away the right to own a private car, then provide world class public transport. Also, how do you compensate the dealers who have invested crores in setting up shop? What about the RTO, the agents, and whole ecosystem existing around the auto market?

After living in Bangalore for last few months, I have found nothing but absolute apathy from the authorities in road maintenance (white topping anyone?) and road construction. Also, the roads and flyovers are so poorly designed.

Basically, the authorities have failed to provide good enough infrastructure in spite of collecting world beating taxes, delayed a much needed metro system to the point that it is now too little, too late. And now the solution is to ban vehicle registration? Laughable
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Having lived in Chennai for over 10 years and Bangalore for now 7 years I think the Bangalore traffic problem is no doubt due to more vehicles but some peculiarities aggravate it:-

  • Hi Rise offices in close proximity. It might be wise to limit the height of the building or to make it uneconomical to verticalize like dedicating more square foot of green cover per square foot of office space
  • Tractor trailers in Bangalore contribute most to slow moving traffic and are not designed for transport in cities. Their usage should be discouraged
  • Have a direct road high-speed road between Whitefield and e-city. A lot of traffic is between these two hubs and contributes significantly to the Marthahalli, KR Puram and Whitefield Road traffic jams
  • Road digging - This should be regulated with road digging fines for contractors for work beyond the permitted days, additional charges for work during daytime etc

I think some of the above especially 2 & 4 will give an immediate breather and reduce congestion and blocks gridlocks giving public transport time to catch up
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re: Bangalore considering 2-year ban on new vehicle registrations

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Having lived in Chennai for over 10 years and Bangalore for now 7 years I think the Bangalore traffic problem is no doubt due to more vehicles but some peculiarities aggravate it:-

  • Hi Rise offices in close proximity. It might be wise to limit the height of the building or to make it uneconomical to verticalize like dedicating more square foot of green cover per square foot of office space
  • Tractor trailers in Bangalore contribute most to slow moving traffic and are not designed for transport in cities. Their usage should be discouraged
  • Have a direct road high-speed road between Whitefield and e-city. A lot of traffic is between these two hubs and contributes significantly to the Marthahalli, KR Puram and Whitefield Road traffic jams
  • Road digging - This should be regulated with road digging fines for contractors for work beyond the permitted days, additional charges for work during daytime etc

I think some of the above especially 2 & 4 will give an immediate breather and reduce congestion and blocks gridlocks giving public transport time to catch up

One thing I am absolutely unable to accept is why is it when these governmental idiots decide to build flyovers and stuff and start digging, that they seem congenitally unable to fix those portions of road which are still in use throughout the mammoth and lengthy flyover building process. Not only is the common man having to put up with severely constrained space, but terrible surfaces too!

But the thing is, all governments only have in their idiot brains, a line of sight until the next election and how much they can rob and steal in the time available.

So we can all rant and rave and shout and scream and lose our shirts and our hair as well. But as long as we have these types of governments in power, this is what we will continue to get.

The basic issue is over population and over crowding everywhere.

That’s why every time one gets a chance to travel outside of India, it comes as such a heaven sent relief.
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This is purely a statement to boost more vehicle sales in this festive season. The Auto retail industry is reeling under its worst ever festive season. The sales are just not picking up be it 4 wheelers or 2 wheelers.

This kind of statement might instigate a knee jerk reaction making people think about purchasing a vehicle right now when it is already the festive season.
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Re: Bangalore considering 2-year ban on new vehicle registrations

Impossible. The auto industry will never allow this to happen. They'll put pressure from the center if required, but it's not possible to ban new car registrations in any major market.

It'll also lead to chaos in the dealership industry which already runs on wafer-thin margins. Not to mention, the service business will collapse. The loss of jobs will be terrible.
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Impossible. The auto industry will never allow this to happen. They'll put pressure from the center if required, but it's not possible to ban new car registrations in any major market.

It'll also lead to chaos in the dealership industry which already runs on wafer-thin margins. Not to mention, the service business will collapse. The loss of jobs will be terrible.
This is just a bogus announcement from Govt. This fiasco will end up in hiking taxes. BTW I heard from dealer that sales have spiked up as people fear they might not be able to make a purchase in future .
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