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Old 11th July 2022, 12:32   #31
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Re: Petrol usage will cease in the next 5 years - Gadkari

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Difficult - I will start worrying after we become a $30 Trillion economy.
Nothing to worry about then since present Government expects India to be $30 Trillion economy only in the next 30 Years
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Old 11th July 2022, 13:30   #32
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Re: Petrol usage will cease in the next 5 years - Gadkari

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"The Honorable Union Minister of Road Transport and Highways Nitin Gadkari was quoted saying that petrol won’t be in usage in the country in the next five years. He took the example of bio-ethanol, which is being made in Maharashtra’s Vidarbha district, will be used in vehicles.

Nitin Gadkari also cited that Green Hydrogen can also be used, which can be made from deep well water and sold for ₹70 per kg. The Union Minister further purported that India will run out of petrol in the next five years, and post-which usage of this fossil fuel will be banned in the nation. He also mentioned how farmers can contribute in the future as energy providers too, not just food providers."

That really sounds like a random statement of words rather than it being anything probable.

Oh well, moving on.
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Re: Petrol usage will cease in the next 5 years - Gadkari

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That really sounds like a random statement of words rather than it being anything probable.
these thoughts are too futuristic. There are enough people in the country who cannot afford to replace cars just because new norms come in. Many will think that the lesser devil is in paying a little higher for regular petrol than to pay the additional amount for a new car that meets new emission norms - and in turn that can run on bio-fuel. IMO, making the highways safe is a more practical target than trying to push electric cars and such. Bio-fuel sounds good, but that will mean older cars crumble due to internal damage caused by using fuel that it was not originally designed for.
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Old 11th July 2022, 14:13   #34
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Re: Petrol usage will cease in the next 5 years - Gadkari

Far cry from ground reality! May be he's saying if people cry for lowering taxes on fuel we'll go the Sri Lanka way of pumps running dry and there will be no money to buy fuel! Changing the we way we "move" is not an easy joke. Easier said than done. Just imagine in 5 years there'll be only EV's and just imagine how much coal we'll burning to produce electricity to "fuel" mobility!! Politicians have a habit of mouthing promises they can't keep as diversionary tactics to move public attention from "more" pressing issues!
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Old 12th July 2022, 08:43   #35
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Re: Petrol usage will cease in the next 5 years - Gadkari

Having experienced this government's style of policy imposition, this claim has to be construed as:

"After 5 years, petrol will become un-affordable to the most, so plan / change your vehicle usage accordingly."

One of my friend was in the market for a petrol C-SUV couple of months back. I had warned her of planning the investment by carefully studying the ethanol blending policy. She however went ahead and bought a new Creta straight away.

The highly regarded Minister therefore, cannot be blamed for hyperbole.
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Re: Petrol usage will cease in the next 5 years - Gadkari

Now all the babus would be wracking the heads off on how to discontinue Petrol, but I don't think that's ever going to happen, due to the revenue moolah that gets into the coffers.

Alas, our Electricity infra is mostly Coal, Diesel, Hydro and partially Nuclear. When most of the sales are going to just EV, imagine the strain on those grids and green house gas emissions. It simply doesn't make sense to just go the EV way when we are not focusing on Clean Energy sources to charge the EV infrastructures.

Not sure what gives...
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Re: Petrol usage will cease in the next 5 years - Gadkari

A petrol vehicle that is getting registered will have its usable life till 2037 considering 15 years of life before re-registration is required.

If we consider the statement seriously then the minute the statement is released the registrations for petrol vehicles should stop and all the existing vehicles that are registered should be scrapped. I repeat all. That means every single vehicle that is on the road needs to be scrapped.

Not possible even on the blue moon.

I seriously think every time Mr. Gadkari make this type of statement what exactly do the experts in their panel do in terms of analysis before releasing such type of news.
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Re: Petrol usage will cease in the next 5 years - Gadkari

And then I see a brand new Shell bunk opening near my place which already has a HPCL pump about 200mtrs from this point... Obviously, people who are putting the money don't share the same opinion as our minister.
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I have come to the conclusion that people will make big statements (even if they are blatantly false) just to make an impact, because later, others will only remember that impact & not the statement per se.
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Re: Petrol usage will cease in the next 5 years - Gadkari

Gadkari is known to make such statements every now and then, we should not really put so much though on what he says.
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Re: Petrol usage will cease in the next 5 years - Gadkari

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If we consider the statement seriously then the minute the statement is released the registrations for petrol vehicles should stop and all the existing vehicles that are registered should be scrapped. I repeat all. That means every single vehicle that is on the road needs to be scrapped.
Honorable Minister expects said Petrol cars to run on Bio-Ethanol.
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Re: Petrol usage will cease in the next 5 years - Gadkari

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Gadkari is known to make such statements every now and then, we should not really put so much though on what he says.
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I have come to the conclusion that people will make big statements (even if they are blatantly false) just to make an impact, because later, others will only remember that impact & not the statement per se.
Evidently yes, more so because he was speaking to an audience of agriculture and veterinary students, researchers and experts. The university awarded him an honorary D. Litt that has enabled him to now don the mantle of an agriculturist, academically. In real life the Hon'ble Minister is an agriculturist, apart from his other preoccupations.

Hence, an academically newly ordained agriculturist is bound to make such a Big Ticket statement, to the delight of the audience with an agricultural background. I predict that there could have been a thunderous clapping from the audience when bioethanol was projected (with hydrogen) as the sole fuels to propel our automobiles post 2027.

Had the same convocation been in a Petroleum Institute, he could have spoken somewhat in favour of fossil fuels and about increasing the country's production figures to substitute imports. The stupendous fuel import bills irk him constantly.

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And then I see a brand new Shell bunk opening near my place which already has a HPCL pump about 200mtrs from this point... Obviously, people who are putting the money don't share the same opinion as our minister.
Hopefully, sometimes Gadkariji's convoy will land up there to top up while on a drive.

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Re: Petrol usage will cease in the next 5 years - Gadkari

Ahhh I can't wait for this day 5 years hence when I will be driving my ethanol-electric hybrid, sticking to the speed limit of 140, while occasionally tooting my horn emitting a mellifluous stream of sitar music!

Still gotta watch out for crater-sized potholes and idiots driving the wrong way I suppose but hey...priorities!
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Re: Petrol usage will cease in the next 5 years - Gadkari

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That's a "big ticket" announcement appearing overtly to signal a major transformation in the fuel consumption pattern of our country. And coming as a statement from Union Minister Mr Gadkari, we are not sure as to whether it has to be taken sensu stricto? Or whether it is to be taken with one or more pinch/es of salt ?

His assertion that petrol won't be in use in the next five years is quite much impractical and this statement though hypothetical cannot stand the test of time. Yes, by all means the longevity of usage of fossil fuels are under question and perhaps by the end of the next decade there could be a drastic reduction in the consumption of fossil fuels by automobiles of all categories.

But the hypothesis that "petrol goes into wilderness" in the next five years as stated would not stand scrutiny by pragmatists and could turn out to simply be a pipe dream.



The link :-

https://www.timesnownews.com/auto/pe...ticle-92752525

Did he really say this? Most probably this is the wordings of the reporter

Economic Times says "Union minister Nitin Gadkari has expressed confidence that green fuel will end the need for the use of petrol in vehicles in the country after five years.

"With full faith I want to say that petrol will vanish from the country after five years. Your cars and scooters will either be on green hydrogen, ethanol flex fuel, CNG or LNG," he said.

Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/92765646.cms

There is a big difference in saying "green fuel will end the need for the use of petrol " and "Petrol usage will cease in the next 5 years".

I would say the second one is more of a politically motivated/influenced statement just like many of the comments above.

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Re: Petrol usage will cease in the next 5 years - Gadkari

5 years? With all due respect, that's an impossibility and you're only kidding yourself if you believe it.

All these promises and visions can be made, shared, attempted for enforcement, and fail, but the consequences of the changes to make it happen? Only the salaried class will have to deal with it. Utter nonsense.

5 years later they'll say 5 more years. Progressive thinking is a start though
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