[NaXal]

Hello,

Its all about "state" road tax right?

Why don't they start a website where "outside" vehicles can simply purchase a 1 month or 3 month or such fee?

Since the entire "Vahan" is online, they can simply automate the excess road tax calculation for any individual vehicle and break it up in such 1 / 3 / 6 months or yearly chunks..

Is not that an easy option?

Govt get their tax, citizens can pay the tax without any hassle and Police Naka can harass people without that receipt. Win / win for all the parties

Thanks.

[100Kmphormore]

I can't help but think the massive revenue from the numerous luxury/performance cars registered out of state since most of the cars I've seen is from HR or PY . Will be interesting to see if they touch the bigshots owning these vehicles.

[The Pianist]

Getting a BH registration to tide over these nonsense would be a good idea.

[4x4addict]

Originally Posted by Noctis

Aren't we legally allowed to move the car anywhere in India for upto 1 year before being required to re-register and repay the tax? What is the legal basis of this 30 day rule?

Exactly. Karnataka tried this and the Karnataka High Court upheld the 1 year rule as the the MV Act. Someone in Telengana will have to take this to court.

[Aravind_M92]

Just a doubt here. As a student who gets to study in a different state uses his vehicle from his home state. They'll be there only for the course of study and get back to their States once done. So how does that work out? Does that student need to change their registration?
I feel rather than pushing to change registration, couldn't there be a kind of subscription fees to use the roads rather than go through the entire process of changing the registration?

[Pennant1970]

All this is neither here nor there - it will go back to "normal", whatever that means, in a few weeks. Look at the interstate bus issue between TN and Kerala - that's blown over.

Anyone who says this is not political however, is wrong. The choice of federalism versus centralisation is what we are faced with. And that is a political issue. I grew up in an environment of "unity in diversity". The new trend seems to be"homogeneity at all costs" or "majority dictates"?

I better stop here, I suppose. Apologise if I caused any offence.

[madhavgpai]

Originally Posted by MyLife_MyCar

Isn't it easy for them to get the fastag transaction records and see when the vehicle last paid toll while entering...

That is true. However, is it legal to randomly flag down any vehicle without any proof or witness of law breaking?

[wooka]

The cops needed half an excuse, and now they have many.

The world is progressing and yet regressive politics and babus running govt offices like their ghar ki dukaan is taking us in the opposite direction.

The question is - why is the BH series so inaccessible?
Why must one pay in black for fake documents to get a BH plate?
Why is the BH plate more expensive than upfront OTT (one time tax?)
Why is transferring still such a black hole? Most RTOs need for you to get your car in person, spend a day at the RTO, pay a babu or two for 'ease of business' and working through 'lunch breaks'?
Why won't one get proper RTO tax refunds when transferring? Supposedly, only the first owner is entitled to such refunds (speaking from experience, UP16 Noida RTO.)
Why does one need to pay green tax repetitively?
Is there no discount offered anymore to people from the state on road tolls? Then why have a local number?
Why are outsiders harassed by every second goon on the road?

And now you've armed the cops to further harass the common man despite the MVA stating 12 months of travelling freedom. In a post covid world, we're regressing in a pityful fashion and it's unabashed abuse of political power that needs to be reigned in by a lawyer.

Even grabbing vehicles passing through NCR needs to be stopped. How does one travel from chandigarh to Bihar? Through NCR. Bad luck if you have a clean non polluting 15k kms single-driven German.

[RunGaDa]

USA has yearly or biyearly registration of vehicles. They won’t allow any expired registration vehicles in the road. Even the apartments rental office will send you a notice if your car has expired registration or even a flat tyre.
In India the only objective of RTO is earn more immediately. This gives them all the time to swindle funds, given almost zilch back to the tax payer and the vehicle owner.
The 15 year one time tax has to be abolished.

[sirius]

Originally Posted by RunGaDa

USA has yearly or biyearly registration of vehicles. ..
The 15 year one time tax has to be abolished.

One time is better than every 6 months to visit RTO office in our country. It is painful to visit govt offices in present way the things are run.

[PreludeSH]

Originally Posted by sirius

One time is better than every 6 months to visit RTO office in our country. It is painful to visit govt offices in present way the things are run.

You don't need to visit them. Pay online and get a sticker with validity. That's how its done abroad. There are even kiosks where you can renew and get immediate printed tags. Or use mail and online means.

[anathaniel]

Originally Posted by 100Kmphormore

I can't help but think the massive revenue from the numerous luxury/performance cars registered out of state since most of the cars I've seen is from HR or PY .

A bit of a segue here, but the DL, UP16 HR51 and HR26 luxury cars that you see here are typically close to scrappage in NCR because of the new rules there. When these cars are about 12 years old (Petrol) and 8 years old (diesel) people get an NOC and sell them out of state. My understanding is that most of these cards are nin the process of being re-registered, or already have a Telangana RC and are awaiting number plates.

PY registered cars are a case of tax evasion.

[NiInJa]

Originally Posted by Aravind_M92

Just a doubt here. As a student who gets to study in a different state uses his vehicle from his home state. They'll be there only for the course of study and get back to their States once done. So how does that work out?

The rule is as follows:
1. You can drive the car in a different state for upto 30 days
2. After 30 days you must pay the road tax of the state where you are driving
3. Once you have paid the road tax, you need to deregister the car from Home state and re-register it in the new state. You have to do this within one year of paying the new tax.

Now, tax can be paid for lifetime of the vehicle or yearly. This has always been a grey area. Some state RTO/Police do not understand this rule exists and say that the tax HAS to be paid for lifetime only for private vehicles.

Also rule 3 is either adhered by some state police or not. Back in 2014 when cops caught me and my wife for riding a MH registered scooter in Bengaluru, they said just pay the life time tax for KA and you will be let go every time you show the tax paid receipt (And it worked). Meaning, rule #3 was not exactly followed by the police. When we moved back to Maharashtra, and got a KA registered car, Maharashtra police said you will have to re-register it in Pune again, paying just the tax (even lifetime) won't make a difference after 1 year. (They followed Rule 3 mentioned above)

In your case, you should be better off paying yearly tax and showing it to cops with supporting documents (toll tickets, college id etc). But this entire vehicle taxation thing is a big mess that the police are well aware of and no one wants to improve it as it makes a good source of alternate income.

My personal opinion is that cars should have the option of paying yearly tax for the state it is driven in along with the lifetime tax of home state and have the police validate both in case one gets stopped.
It works out well for everyone. The owner has the responsibility to deregister the car on his own and get a refund on home state tax while the new states get their share of the tax as long as the vehicle is driven there.

[RaviKBobba]

Originally Posted by NiInJa

The rule is as follows:
1. You can drive the car in a different state for upto 30 days
2. After 30 days you must pay the road tax of the state where you are driving

Doesn't the Central MV Law state that the Out of state vehicles can be plied for 11-12 months ?

Source

When a Motor vehicle registered in one State has been kept in other State for a period exceeding twelve months the owner is required to obtain a new registration mark to be assigned by the registering authority within whose jurisdiction the vehicle then is in terms of section 47 of the Motor Vehicle Act 1988.

INTER STATE TRANSFER OF VEHICLE

Ministry of Road Transport and Highways
https://morth.nic.in › inter-state-transfer-vehicle

[BSASLR]

Example: The Karnataka government receives up to ₹7,000 crore per year from road transport taxes, including vehicle registration fees, road taxes, and permit fees. This revenue significantly contributes to the state's non-tax revenue, often making up one of the largest components of this category.

Many states are hesitant to relinquish this revenue stream to the central government, leading to multiple confrontations and cases in the Supreme Court. States are unwilling to forfeit their financial autonomy, and the central government currently may not have the leverage to enforce such changes.

It seems the BH series will remain a distant dream for most of us. I hope I am wrong and that things will change