Pics: Viano is here!

lamborghini · 29th March 2005, 21:41

Saw the car today outside the worli showroom.
Looked pretty neat but def. not worth Rs 55L
Merc should concentrate only on family sedans.

aveek · 29th March 2005, 21:46

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Originally Posted by Shan2nu

Viano huh!! Doesn't look very Merc to me. I bet, if you replaced all the Merc logos and stick ons with Toyota ones, people wouldn't know the diff.

Yeah, the insides look a lot like an uplifted Innova -which, IMO, is one UGLY machine, but has decent interiors...

Somehow, the insides are most certainly not upto Merc. standards at all...

revtech · 30th March 2005, 02:00

the car looks descent nothing great if i had the money i dont think i would invest in it.and as gordon said hotels could use them .i think it is more of a commercial car then a day to day car

jesal · 30th March 2005, 09:32

price tag seems a lot but then mercs in india are a rip off neways. i say save the money for a black CLS 55 or 500

lamborghini · 30th March 2005, 19:28

Which hotel will pay 55L for a van?

always_dui · 30th March 2005, 21:02

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Originally Posted by lamborghini

Which hotel will pay 55L for a van?

Hotels would never pay that amount they always get the vehicle for around half the price...

apart from them no one else would want to buy it ......

also the dials for the AC as someone quoted is far from the drivers access...

well.....

how many times do you see a vehicle like that being driven around in non AC so why would you need to touch the dials that often....

makes sense

cheers

lamborghini · 31st March 2005, 12:55

Ok but even after the EPCG thing the price comes down to 27.5L.
I am sure hotels would go for a X trail or something but def. not a van worth 27.5L.
From the way i see it, only a really drunk persone would go and buy the viano when the innova/ endeavour/ X trail are cheaper and equally good if not better.

adya33 · 21st April 2005, 16:33

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Originally Posted by lamborghini

Ok but even after the EPCG thing the price comes down to 27.5L.
I am sure hotels would go for a X trail or something but def. not a van worth 27.5L.
From the way i see it, only a really drunk persone would go and buy the viano when the innova/ endeavour/ X trail are cheaper and equally good if not better.

ummmm u sure about that?

there are some people who will buy it only for 3 stars!
& yes few 7star hotel will buy it for all executives & others but expect it only in metros
also few CEOs can really use this car by holding meetings while travelling
a definate winner for me
If I had money I would buy it

man23ish · 26th April 2005, 12:36

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Originally Posted by Shan2nu

As for the interiors, they could have taken a few tips from Toyota. The Fortuner has arguably the most proportionate and well designed console i've ever seen. Brilliant!!
Shan2nu

Hey dude,

Any idea when is the fortuner coming out..

Manish.

shankaranand · 26th April 2005, 15:50

according to ACI, expect fortuner by end of this year or 2006 first quarter, sounds really appealing if they price it at 10-12 lacs as per Autocar..

Toyota does not need to do much changes to its factories since fortuner is based on IMV platform..

lamborghini · 9th May 2005, 23:59

Guys,
we are a bit offtopic out here.
Anyway,
The Innova or even the Land cruiser would be a better and cheaper option.
Infact any Toyota Van with equal levels of equipment and more peace of mind would be half the cost and better and cheaper to maintain in the long run.
Anyway, i just saw a brand new Viano today.
The puja had also been done today and it is blue in colour and seriously speaking, i was not impressed one bit. The landcruiser manages to impress more and would be a good option to Hotels and one could even hole conferences in there.
Will post pics soon.

khanak · 10th May 2005, 00:06

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Originally Posted by lamborghini

Guys,
we are a bit offtopic out here.
Anyway,
The Innova or even the Land cruiser would be a better and cheaper option.
Infact any Toyota Van with equal levels of equipment and more peace of mind would be half the cost and better and cheaper to maintain in the long run.
Anyway, i just saw a brand new Viano today.
The puja had also been done today and it is blue in colour and seriously speaking, i was not impressed one bit. The landcruiser manages to impress more and would be a good option to Hotels and one could even hole conferences in there.
Will post pics soon.

How can you compare the viano , the land cruiser and the innova? they are completely different cars in completely different categories.

lamborghini · 10th May 2005, 00:18

I am just saying that it is worthless spending so much on a Van and that an Innovba will do the trick unless they want something impressive in which case the Landcruiser is there.
But the main fact is that 50L for a dumb Van makes no sense even if it were badged a Mercedes and an Innova or Landcruiser can do the job for 1/5th / half the price respectively and last longer too.
Basically, the Viano makes no Sense.
Edit - Infact the Innova/endeavour/X-Trail/Land cruiser are more reliable also and considering that most foreigners know about these cars, i am sure they would prefer a reliable Toyota over a unreliable Mercedes.

khanak · 10th May 2005, 00:27

You have a point there.The Viano being a van is more user friendly and is easier to get in and out of than a SUV which are higher. The people who even consider buying a viano wont be looking at buying a car like the innova. 50 lakhs is a real rip off though. But if it has that huge S class engine as in got here in the CBU form i guess its allright

adya33 · 10th May 2005, 00:27

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Originally Posted by lamborghini

I am just saying that it is worthless spending so much on a Van and that an Innovba will do the trick unless they want something impressive in which case the Landcruiser is there.
But the main fact is that 50L for a dumb Van makes no sense even if it were badged a Mercedes and an Innova or Landcruiser can do the job for 1/5th / half the price respectively and last longer too.
Basically, the Viano makes no Sense.
Edit - Infact the Innova/endeavour/X-Trail/Land cruiser are more reliable also and considering that most foreigners know about these cars, i am sure they would prefer a reliable Toyota over a unreliable Mercedes.

thoguh I would not argue with you over reliability thing (i just finished Merc India cheating thing)
however I think you are not getting concept of Viano here

In thatvechical you can sit face to face have all table & lights & stuff
also seating capacity, space are too important
and don't count out rear seat ride as it is the most important in this case.

YES Viano is a VAN, thats what it is ment to be while endeavour/X-Trail/Land cruiser are SUVs (sorry Innova is just a van pushed into SUV market IMO)

29th March 2005, 21:41	#16
lamborghini Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,113 Thanked: 5,760 Times View My Garage	Saw the car today outside the worli showroom. Looked pretty neat but def. not worth Rs 55L Merc should concentrate only on family sedans.
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30th March 2005, 02:00	#18
revtech Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,992 Thanked: 38 Times View My Garage	the car looks descent nothing great if i had the money i dont think i would invest in it.and as gordon said hotels could use them .i think it is more of a commercial car then a day to day car
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30th March 2005, 09:32	#19
jesal BANNED Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,323 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	price tag seems a lot but then mercs in india are a rip off neways. i say save the money for a black CLS 55 or 500
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30th March 2005, 19:28	#20
lamborghini Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,113 Thanked: 5,760 Times View My Garage	Which hotel will pay 55L for a van?
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31st March 2005, 12:55	#22
lamborghini Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,113 Thanked: 5,760 Times View My Garage	Ok but even after the EPCG thing the price comes down to 27.5L. I am sure hotels would go for a X trail or something but def. not a van worth 27.5L. From the way i see it, only a really drunk persone would go and buy the viano when the innova/ endeavour/ X trail are cheaper and equally good if not better.
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26th April 2005, 15:50	#25
shankaranand BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 164 Thanked: 22 Times	according to ACI, expect fortuner by end of this year or 2006 first quarter, sounds really appealing if they price it at 10-12 lacs as per Autocar.. Toyota does not need to do much changes to its factories since fortuner is based on IMV platform..
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9th May 2005, 23:59	#26
lamborghini Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,113 Thanked: 5,760 Times View My Garage	Guys, we are a bit offtopic out here. Anyway, The Innova or even the Land cruiser would be a better and cheaper option. Infact any Toyota Van with equal levels of equipment and more peace of mind would be half the cost and better and cheaper to maintain in the long run. Anyway, i just saw a brand new Viano today. The puja had also been done today and it is blue in colour and seriously speaking, i was not impressed one bit. The landcruiser manages to impress more and would be a good option to Hotels and one could even hole conferences in there. Will post pics soon.
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10th May 2005, 00:18	#28
lamborghini Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,113 Thanked: 5,760 Times View My Garage	I am just saying that it is worthless spending so much on a Van and that an Innovba will do the trick unless they want something impressive in which case the Landcruiser is there. But the main fact is that 50L for a dumb Van makes no sense even if it were badged a Mercedes and an Innova or Landcruiser can do the job for 1/5th / half the price respectively and last longer too. Basically, the Viano makes no Sense. Edit - Infact the Innova/endeavour/X-Trail/Land cruiser are more reliable also and considering that most foreigners know about these cars, i am sure they would prefer a reliable Toyota over a unreliable Mercedes. Last edited by lamborghini : 10th May 2005 at 00:20.
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10th May 2005, 00:27	#29
khanak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai/Toronto Posts: 2,799 Thanked: 268 Times View My Garage	You have a point there.The Viano being a van is more user friendly and is easier to get in and out of than a SUV which are higher. The people who even consider buying a viano wont be looking at buying a car like the innova. 50 lakhs is a real rip off though. But if it has that huge S class engine as in got here in the CBU form i guess its allright
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